Oct. 15, 2021

Live


This very special episode was recorded on location at Geek Retreat Southampton! As such, it has a slightly different format to all my previous episodes. I was fortunate enough to have Simon, James, Anastazia, and Anri share with me their TTRPG experiences and what bought them to the store that night. We cover a broad range of topics including how playing "in public" affects the experience, the concept of a "co-DM", and what it's like to play with a pick-up-group of strangers. It was such a pleasure to have the opportunity to speak to such a talented and diverse group of people, each overflowing with excitement for Dungeons & Dragons.

This episode is not sponsored, supported, or endorsed by 'Geek Retreat' in any way.

  • 00:56 - Simon
  • 13:24 - James
  • 24:38 - Anastazia
  • 01:08:40 - Anri

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Intro Music: 'Local Forecast' by Kevin MacLeod
Outro Music: 'Local Forecast - Elevator' by Kevin MacLeod

Transcript

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[Music]

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hello and welcome to a very special

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episode of thinking critically this is

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the final episode of season two so thank

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you so much for joining me and for

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making this season such a success

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this episode was filmed on location at

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the southampton branch of geek retreat a

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geek culture retailer gaming cafe and

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events hub as such it is a slightly

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different format to usual episodes as i

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was joined by four gamers throughout the

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evening who were kind enough to offer

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their time often mid-game to talk about

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their unique experiences so settle in

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and enjoy my chats with simon james

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anastasia and anne-marie

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and today

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we are recording

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quote-unquote live for the first time in

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geek retreat southampton

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and i am joined firstly by friend hero

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angel previous guest

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simon eustis thank you for joining me in

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this very bizarre in-face interview for

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the first time

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yeah this is uh this is quite odd i'm

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getting flashbacks of uh student radio

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but um in a lot more public setting it's

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quite cool yeah the vibe is npr of the

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podcast i think you you were the first

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one to tell me that uh so i think this

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is probably the most fitting public

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setting for an npr style podcast so

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totally totally aside from uh coming to

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help me set up and abate some nerves

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what brings you here to town

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today tonight well i'm actually in town

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tonight to watch a film at the cinema

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[Music]

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but yes uh geek retreat's been open for

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quite a while now

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um i've been in a handful of times just

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not as like a player

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of anything i'm also just i think i was

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here to like check out and i've had like

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my time here has been like quite limited

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and i've come in before i think to get a

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dice bag i can't remember if i was uh

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successful or not because obviously

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if you need a dice bag you need a dice

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bag and you don't necessarily remember

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where it comes from but from the i like

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i've never seen it look this busy before

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and it's very busy tonight like

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definitely came at the most appropriate

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time because nearly every table is full

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of a dnd campaign yeah heads down

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pencils out

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lots of dice being rolled

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there's that star wars game that i think

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actually me and you have played before

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quite possibly yeah fleek commander or

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am i thinking of something completely

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different

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that does ring a bell

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um but yeah really really cool it's good

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to see a lot of people

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just enjoying

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each other's company in a d setting

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which for me is what the game is all

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about so yep from where we're sitting i

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count one two three

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screens at least dm screens which is

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again very good to see having only ever

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seen one at a time uh it's very cool to

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see so many guys here it's a bit scary

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to have like so many uh dms in one area

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you don't wanna you don't want them all

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getting together reckon there's some

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kind of like

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one-upmanship what do you think

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everyone's like oh yeah i'm fully

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expecting like a tpk followed by another

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tpk and then another tpk yeah like if

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you if you if you're the last person

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even if you're not in combat it's just

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like oh no you'll just pull down a sand

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trap and you're all just like it's like

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a shopping episode and they'll be like

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oh that's like a 30 pk tonight so i

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better up the ante somehow oh you what

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you took a potion off the shelf and you

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sniffed it yeah sorry meteor storm

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whoops

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sorry guys anyway so roll your next

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character

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yeah so um

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i do think uh ulysses aka rob from our

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dungeons nice and dudes podcast is

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looking to

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start uh adventurous league here

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at some point that's correct yeah i'm uh

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for some reason i thought he might have

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already started but it has just dawned

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on me that he just got married so

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probably not at the top of his

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priorities list

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um i don't know why

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um and yeah he'll be going on honeymoon

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i don't like i'm just telling you all

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about rob personal life but um yeah

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the very first guest on the podcast yes

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lest we forget full circle you should uh

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i think it would be quite a cool idea

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not to give you ideas for an episode but

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after he does his first one do like a

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gotcha journalism like way outside for

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the whole evening and then once he's

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finished tonight russian yeah i could

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bring like a camera or hold your audio

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box or whatever the torch strap to the

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side

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100 yeah that'd be great that'd be

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really great yep

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how did they go how many how many people

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did you kill why are they still alive

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exactly yeah that'd be great

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yeah so i think uh last time i spoke to

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him and the manager here i think that he

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is in currently in discussions with

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wizards on

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i believe there's a bit of setup around

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uh like avengers league there's rules

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and there's regulations and there's like

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forms people have to fill in and stuff

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so yeah i didn't realize how

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um official the whole operation around

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it was um that whole side of thing i

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guess especially as i've never dm'd

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before

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just completely escapes me i've never

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really heard of it until um he brought

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up

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uh in a conversation with me which

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probably adds to the

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poser stereotype that i'm giving off

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um oh yeah oh i've come in to buy a dice

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bag

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that's what people buy right yeah

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20 why would i need 20 sides to my diet

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six is enough

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um but yeah that's that's like really

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cool and i

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i don't know i'd be quite tempted to

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attend uh rob's a great dm so yeah quite

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interesting

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a newbie myself and looking at

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you know what is i see this adventurous

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league bandit around all the time

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what is this d or is this a different

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game it was not of it to be super clear

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when i started digging in yeah there's

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there's a heck load of rules and i i

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vaguely remember they're being like you

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can't pick

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um

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you can only pick subclass and like race

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and character options from two other

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books that aren't the phb so like you're

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limited so you can't have like

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a race from

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uh volo's guide

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a class from you know something else and

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something and then a feat from another

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book you kind of sub class from tasha's

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and then a feat from xamarth yeah

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because you've hit the three that's

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three then things outside of the php

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yeah you can only pick two and even then

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that that subset of

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extra books are limited again you

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they're not all the books so it's even

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in character like right at the start of

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character creation you're like nope you

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can't have that feet because you've

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already met your quota for

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php which is like weird to me a bit of a

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ham-fisted way of balancing essentially

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i think why they're doing it to be like

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someone can't power game and like min

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max from i want this and this and this

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and that's that's a fair point yeah um

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i guess they need some kind of

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nationwide parity and i suppose that's

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the only way they can do it

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yeah that makes sense um

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you don't want to

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i don't know

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i don't know i'm quite surprised i would

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have thought

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it would have been like just stuff from

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but again that's me i'm quite a

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small thinker so i think like to keep

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everyone in on the same level and

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keeping with the same rules

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um just have everyone pull from the same

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source

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yes um

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but hey that's that's how i've designed

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it and it would probably fail so

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so i also do believe i know we've talked

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about it before with the dungeon dyson

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dudes guys to maybe come here one

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episode i guess what we're doing right

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now as we sit here is a

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minor trial of that uh

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how would you how would you feel about

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if you're asking me

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would i like to perform funny voices in

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front of a large audience that sounds

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perfect to me

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um yeah no that that would be really

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cool i i know

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we're all we're all quite techy guys so

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just like i think just the audio

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logistics um would be the only challenge

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um but i i do feel like as people we're

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all quite uh performative

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to an extent so i think we'd actually

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relish everything and then that's when

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both sides of me would come out i'd very

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much enjoy doing the voices

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gesticulating yep blah blah blah and

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then be like oh my god everyone's

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scrutinized me

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you know they're 100 of the rules yeah

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the whole time but um

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you you get over that don't you so like

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you're you're with a group of people

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you're very comfortable with you're

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playing a game you enjoy and um are

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knowledgeable of

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so uh yeah well i don't see why you

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wouldn't want to come to a place like

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this to do it yeah um not everyone likes

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hosting uh no one likes tidying up chris

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bags and

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stuff cans after after sessions of beer

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like and by and by like crisps i just

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meant like beef jerky

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just eating like whey protein straight

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from the bag steaks

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keep those like in your pocket

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um

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our actual

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dd

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sessions are the most famous and we're

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now describing it yeah

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yeah it's not a lad fest it's people

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fighting over who's gonna get the last

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milky bar button

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who's ordering food yeah but yeah like

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um

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to play d d in a setting like this i

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think for a lot of people is it's quite

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a dream come true like we always kind of

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say you know d um for the players has a

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level of escapism

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um so why not escape your familiar

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surroundings

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and actually go to like a

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public area like this and it's such a

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good way um

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to like meet other players and i i've

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taken it back to i know i was joking

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earlier about having

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you know a large number of dms in a

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single place but yeah that that sounds

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like such a great idea because you're

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swapping war stories swapping notes

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uh ideas that sort of things so

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really really really cool saying for

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that sort of thing yeah i've said it

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before and i'll say it again both on the

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show and otherwise that like often

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people are

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super self-conscious at the best of

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times let alone when you're

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sitting down at uh you know at a table

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for the first time and even in these

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environments i imagine they're

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uh you know that's exacerbated to a

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certain extent so i've

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repeat myself and say like nobody

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nobody cares in the nicest possible way

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like you don't have you're not you're

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only performing for yourself the only

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standard you're holding yourself to are

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your own standards

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so

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like

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being those standards can then have fun

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exactly but yeah what i wanted to say

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was that uh

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nathan now dm for dungeons dyson's dudes

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now i think it's fair to say he uh likes

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narrative driven

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campaigns yes very much so and uh

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setting a scene and uh telling a story

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so

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do you think

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he would feel comfortable and this is

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this episode on air for a little while

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so feel free to just go wild do you

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think he might not be comfortable like

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just because of like the ambiance do you

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think it this

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setting attracts a different kind of

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game

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you know what uh that's a really good

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point because

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yeah like he is very he's quite

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detail-driven

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in his storytelling and very much

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demands the focus of the room which he's

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very good again

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uh and it works and it works for his

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story and everything like that

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um

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knowing him as i know him

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it's hard to know it's hard to tell if

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he'd get a kick

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out of people overhearing his uh

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masterful storytelling and his abilities

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but i do think you may have to be a

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little bit more relaxed like you know if

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you know i think when you're playing d

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not to say that it's loud in here you're

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not used to like um a din for lack of a

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better term so

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you know you describe the cave and you

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describe the cave troll and you describe

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the loot that surrounds his feet and his

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leathery skin and his club and then you

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just get what

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um so i think as long as you're not put

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off by like that sort of stuff and

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you're kind of in the

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right mindset to

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play in public i guess for lack of a

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better time um

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you should be fine like i i think he'd

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be i think he'd handle it i think it it

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would just uh

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it's a test in your dm's ability to see

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how adaptable they are

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very good very good well why don't we

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broach the subject to him next time and

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yeah and see what he says but we'll

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phrase it like we haven't had this

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discussion exactly boom

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[Laughter]

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well uh thank you very much uh for this

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your time tonight simon i hope you have

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fun at the cinema i do i will i do i do

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i'm speaking for my future so i i do

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have fun at the cinema tonight i know i

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will

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well yeah thank you very much and uh

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yeah well thank you for having me as

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always yeah pleasure bye

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hello and we are back with my second

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guest tonight uh why don't you tell us

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introduce yourself and tell us a little

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bit about yourself all right well my

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name is james and i'm being a bit of a

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long time nerd and geek to be fair

387
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but yeah we just started doing dnd so

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that's what we're here for tonight

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amazing amazing so you are the dm uh i

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am tonight yeah oh is that is that an

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unusual unusual affair for you then or

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is that first time oh wow tonight

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literally well not not first first

394
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proper time okay run it with a few

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friends and stuff that i've uh wanted to

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learn but it's my first time as a proper

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sort of dm okay well i know a very good

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resource for learning how to be a dm if

399
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i was going to suggest a podcast you

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might want to listen to but yes

401
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no i mean it all looks like they're

402
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having a lot of fun so you must be doing

403
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something right i'm getting the

404
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impression that they are so

405
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that's always a good start are we

406
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talking like homebrew we're running a

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module or running the i've got trying to

408
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extract i always get it wrong the dragon

409
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of ice pirate ice shire peak peak yep

410
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that's the one i always get it muddled

411
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okay and presumably first time running

412
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that module as well then yeah yeah so i

413
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bought the essential kit literally to

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start learning

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so

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awesome okay yeah so when did you when

417
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did you i think you were here when i

418
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came in so how long have you been going

419
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then so far uh a couple of months we

420
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literally came to their first dnd

421
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amazing yeah so we played three

422
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four or five games

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awesome ourselves so we are still

424
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relatively new

425
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but it's a lot easier than people think

426
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might think to pick up

427
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yeah uh yeah so tell us about that tell

428
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us why you think that then that's really

429
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good i mean when you see it

430
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in tv and stuff it looks very

431
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complicated yeah but

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it to me it seems to appear that the dm

433
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will literally tell you what to do yes

434
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all you've got to know is your character

435
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and your stats and whatnot yeah yeah i

436
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think it can be quite intimidating you

437
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know when you see a bunch like a there's

438
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a lot of people b they've all got sheets

439
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full of data that could is meaningless

440
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that yeah i tried to explain it to

441
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someone today and it was so hard to

442
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explain it as yeah simple as it actually

443
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comes across when you play yes yeah i

444
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think

445
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you know they're on the wizards site

446
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there's a bunch of like pre-generated

447
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character sheets that are in a slightly

448
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different format they're only like two

449
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pages and they've rejigged it about i

450
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think you know specifically to be like

451
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throwing them out to new players yeah

452
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even still i think those are

453
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incomprehensible to to new players you

454
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actually i think you definitely need

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some kind of mental yeah well i picked

456
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up a starter set i've been wanting to

457
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learn to play for quite a while yeah and

458
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i picked up a starter set before

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and it was sort of reading through it

460
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would no one to help me understand it

461
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yeah

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it is a lot to get your head around i

463
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remember

464
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initially passive perception yes uh it's

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just literally like 10 plus

466
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this yeah i'm like what does that mean

467
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you know but yeah passive perception is

468
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notorious for being

469
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horrible to try and pass and especially

470
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the new players being like i only rolled

471
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an eight in my perception by my passive

472
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perception of 12. what i'm just going to

473
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use that and then that puts maybe a

474
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newer dm in an awkward yeah

475
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i don't know

476
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yeah yeah i do remember sort of trying

477
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to run it with my brother-in-law as i

478
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said the original time yeah and uh we

479
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didn't get very far because he decided

480
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he wanted to use an arrow as a weapon

481
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and

482
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i had absolutely no idea how to do that

483
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yeah

484
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uh whereas now i've read through the

485
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book i understand it a bit more and i

486
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know that i would run that as a an

487
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improvised weapon yes yes with similar

488
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stats to a dagger yes or at least that's

489
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how i would do it yeah and that's that's

490
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what i've come to learn is that a lot of

491
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you've got a few base rules that seem to

492
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be how that's how that works yeah

493
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and then the rest of it is more

494
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how you interpret yeah stuff to work

495
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then

496
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this is how it works yeah um

497
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which i think makes it a lot easier to

498
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play

499
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yeah like nine times out of ten the way

500
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you're probably going to do it anyway is

501
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yeah how it should be done yeah like in

502
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that instance yeah i think the fact that

503
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there's so many kind of questions to

504
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jeremy crawford and stuff that to

505
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clarify like but what he what's the

506
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intention behind this rule and then he

507
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has to say well we intended it to be

508
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like this but it wasn't super clear yeah

509
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yeah those kind of situations whenever i

510
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try to find something in the rulebook to

511
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to clarify it seems to be so hard to

512
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find because things

513
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to me appear to be all over the place

514
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and not very clearly

515
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and you've got to sort of just interpret

516
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it i think or at least that's how i'm

517
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planning on doing it yeah yeah of course

518
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with player input

519
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yeah now get a good example because i

520
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used to be very a stalwart defender i

521
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was like the php

522
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yes it's a bit it's a big book but the

523
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the wording is super precise which i

524
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stand by you know attack with a big

525
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capital letter and attack the little

526
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capital you know a lowercase a you mean

527
00:18:05,440 --> 00:18:08,559
different things yeah so i spoke to one

528
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of my guests and he was saying that like

529
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the rules around dark vision

530
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i thought they were like

531
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okay but then again i've got a buttload

532
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of experience but he was like no so

533
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flicking through the book sequentially

534
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you get to character creation you see

535
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dark vision and people go that sounds

536
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great yeah then the actual rules for

537
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seeing in dim light are like 200 pages

538
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back and it means something completely

539
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different than what it means so trying

540
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to understand that as like when you're

541
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building your first character is yeah

542
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well we we actually came in here to

543
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build our first characters

544
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and

545
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we're glad we did because we saw i was

546
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going to build a barbarian yes

547
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but the way that i ended up building it

548
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we actually had someone come over and

549
00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,760
say to us

550
00:18:46,000 --> 00:18:49,440
well actually

551
00:18:47,760 --> 00:18:51,840
that would work better as a fighter for

552
00:18:49,440 --> 00:18:53,360
what you're planning on doing okay

553
00:18:51,840 --> 00:18:55,280
so i've ended up with a different kind

554
00:18:53,360 --> 00:18:58,240
of cat but it does do what i want it to

555
00:18:55,280 --> 00:19:00,000
do yeah and um

556
00:18:58,240 --> 00:19:01,840
that my my character is linked to my

557
00:19:00,000 --> 00:19:03,679
wife's character

558
00:19:01,840 --> 00:19:05,360
and we were talking about i wanted to

559
00:19:03,679 --> 00:19:06,640
learn thieves can't because she she

560
00:19:05,360 --> 00:19:08,160
plays a rogue

561
00:19:06,640 --> 00:19:09,360
and it was actually while i was flicking

562
00:19:08,160 --> 00:19:11,679
through the rule book i come across

563
00:19:09,360 --> 00:19:13,760
multi-class yep so

564
00:19:11,679 --> 00:19:16,960
one of my plans will be to take a level

565
00:19:13,760 --> 00:19:19,600
as rogue yep and i'm gonna

566
00:19:16,960 --> 00:19:22,000
build it up so he's primarily a fighter

567
00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:23,679
but he's got like this rogue

568
00:19:22,000 --> 00:19:25,679
side

569
00:19:23,679 --> 00:19:27,919
to him as well

570
00:19:25,679 --> 00:19:30,240
so i think that's great you can

571
00:19:27,919 --> 00:19:33,840
so easily do that sort of stuff yeah

572
00:19:30,240 --> 00:19:35,600
fulfill a vision yeah yeah yeah as a

573
00:19:33,840 --> 00:19:37,760
someone who's kind of

574
00:19:35,600 --> 00:19:39,679
guided a couple of newer players so i

575
00:19:37,760 --> 00:19:41,600
run a longer long-term campaign at the

576
00:19:39,679 --> 00:19:43,440
moment and i think half my players were

577
00:19:41,600 --> 00:19:45,200
brand spanking new literally like we

578
00:19:43,440 --> 00:19:46,799
discussed earlier on like what's this

579
00:19:45,200 --> 00:19:49,760
crazy thing down low keeps talking about

580
00:19:46,799 --> 00:19:51,280
let's play and find out what it is and a

581
00:19:49,760 --> 00:19:53,120
couple of them have very

582
00:19:51,280 --> 00:19:55,039
strong visions for their characters i

583
00:19:53,120 --> 00:19:57,440
want this kind of

584
00:19:55,039 --> 00:19:59,600
person uh and trying to be like

585
00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,360
maybe you want to maybe go over here and

586
00:19:59,600 --> 00:20:04,159
maybe don't take this this one might

587
00:20:01,360 --> 00:20:06,559
work there yeah yeah it's very intricate

588
00:20:04,159 --> 00:20:07,679
because we we used to do laughing oh yes

589
00:20:06,559 --> 00:20:09,280
yeah and that's that's what initially

590
00:20:07,679 --> 00:20:10,320
got me interested in trying it and it

591
00:20:09,280 --> 00:20:11,840
was the same

592
00:20:10,320 --> 00:20:13,200
same sort of thing

593
00:20:11,840 --> 00:20:15,200
it's going through picking the right

594
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,200
stuff to make the character

595
00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:18,480
but of course with that you dress up and

596
00:20:17,200 --> 00:20:19,360
you can buy

597
00:20:18,480 --> 00:20:21,600
actual

598
00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:24,320
well not not obviously actual actual but

599
00:20:21,600 --> 00:20:26,559
um like the foam and latex yeah designed

600
00:20:24,320 --> 00:20:28,960
for that so you can

601
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:30,720
sort of put more into it

602
00:20:28,960 --> 00:20:32,400
with this is imagination but i think

603
00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:34,880
that's great yeah it's one of the

604
00:20:32,400 --> 00:20:37,360
reasons i wanted to try dming is i used

605
00:20:34,880 --> 00:20:38,960
to do a lot of creative writing oh so i

606
00:20:37,360 --> 00:20:41,120
saw it as a way to try and get back into

607
00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:42,799
that a little bit yeah yeah that's one

608
00:20:41,120 --> 00:20:44,720
of the reasons why i

609
00:20:42,799 --> 00:20:46,960
i'm not a creative writer

610
00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:49,039
maybe i am perhaps i am but um

611
00:20:46,960 --> 00:20:50,559
in terms of like world building and

612
00:20:49,039 --> 00:20:52,480
something really

613
00:20:50,559 --> 00:20:54,400
i'm like sometimes most excited i'm in

614
00:20:52,480 --> 00:20:56,240
between sessions so i'm like oh this

615
00:20:54,400 --> 00:20:58,000
would be so fun when this happens or

616
00:20:56,240 --> 00:21:00,000
when they find they realize that x is

617
00:20:58,000 --> 00:21:02,960
why yeah i'm really looking forward to

618
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:04,080
that i sort of have a plan for that with

619
00:21:02,960 --> 00:21:06,320
these guys

620
00:21:04,080 --> 00:21:07,919
if they decide they want to

621
00:21:06,320 --> 00:21:09,120
once we've done got near the end of the

622
00:21:07,919 --> 00:21:11,120
book i'm going to give them a choice do

623
00:21:09,120 --> 00:21:12,880
they want to move on to the next book do

624
00:21:11,120 --> 00:21:15,600
they want me to try and write something

625
00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:17,760
and i've already got a few ideas and

626
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:19,760
one of them literally is

627
00:21:17,760 --> 00:21:20,880
the big bad guy is going to be

628
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:22,159
x

629
00:21:20,880 --> 00:21:24,080
but they're going to have like almost

630
00:21:22,159 --> 00:21:25,600
like a lieutenant that's going to be a

631
00:21:24,080 --> 00:21:27,280
minotaur yeah

632
00:21:25,600 --> 00:21:29,039
but the plan will be that it's he's

633
00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:31,600
going to have an item that will use

634
00:21:29,039 --> 00:21:33,360
disguise self okay so

635
00:21:31,600 --> 00:21:34,640
they won't see him as a minotaur they'll

636
00:21:33,360 --> 00:21:35,919
see him as i don't know a ranger or

637
00:21:34,640 --> 00:21:38,400
something

638
00:21:35,919 --> 00:21:41,120
and one of the first big reveals will be

639
00:21:38,400 --> 00:21:42,799
this guy isn't who you thought he was

640
00:21:41,120 --> 00:21:44,320
but he still isn't who you think he

641
00:21:42,799 --> 00:21:46,799
might be he's not going to be the main

642
00:21:44,320 --> 00:21:50,720
bad guy yeah i just can't think of what

643
00:21:46,799 --> 00:21:52,400
i want the main bad guy to be doing

644
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:55,200
what what are they trying to achieve but

645
00:21:52,400 --> 00:21:56,640
yeah i've got i've got plenty of time to

646
00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:58,480
worry about that yeah i think things

647
00:21:56,640 --> 00:22:00,000
always take longer than you anticipate

648
00:21:58,480 --> 00:22:01,760
see

649
00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:03,440
like

650
00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:05,039
having that congruent universe where

651
00:22:03,440 --> 00:22:06,720
like the wheels still town the bad guys

652
00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:08,880
are still working even when the good

653
00:22:06,720 --> 00:22:11,280
guys and maybe not it's really difficult

654
00:22:08,880 --> 00:22:12,880
to get watching a youtube channel and

655
00:22:11,280 --> 00:22:14,240
that's sort of a lot of what that guy

656
00:22:12,880 --> 00:22:17,200
says is that

657
00:22:14,240 --> 00:22:18,960
remember it is still a working world yes

658
00:22:17,200 --> 00:22:20,720
in the sense of

659
00:22:18,960 --> 00:22:21,760
if your players are going to go and do

660
00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:23,919
something

661
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:26,799
different for a game yeah and not follow

662
00:22:23,919 --> 00:22:28,799
what would be the general you know go

663
00:22:26,799 --> 00:22:29,679
and stop this guy

664
00:22:28,799 --> 00:22:32,000
that

665
00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:34,320
that bad guy's plan will still advance

666
00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:36,240
in some way you know so instead of going

667
00:22:34,320 --> 00:22:38,640
to finish screw up the bad guy's plan

668
00:22:36,240 --> 00:22:41,440
there he's managed to succeed in i don't

669
00:22:38,640 --> 00:22:43,520
know recruiting an army yeah because

670
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:46,559
they've gone off and yes

671
00:22:43,520 --> 00:22:48,559
gone treasure hunting or something yeah

672
00:22:46,559 --> 00:22:50,799
i love personally for me i love that

673
00:22:48,559 --> 00:22:52,480
part of the game because you can't

674
00:22:50,799 --> 00:22:54,240
really get it like even even when you

675
00:22:52,480 --> 00:22:55,520
play like video games it still feels a

676
00:22:54,240 --> 00:22:58,240
little bit

677
00:22:55,520 --> 00:23:00,080
it's a lot more dynamic yes absolutely

678
00:22:58,240 --> 00:23:02,640
yeah you can do a lot more of what you

679
00:23:00,080 --> 00:23:06,240
actually yeah i find video games the the

680
00:23:02,640 --> 00:23:09,760
last rpg i played was uh valhalla oh

681
00:23:06,240 --> 00:23:12,080
yeah and it is it's still scripted yes

682
00:23:09,760 --> 00:23:13,760
yes this isn't scripted you know they

683
00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:15,760
could ask you a question you didn't

684
00:23:13,760 --> 00:23:18,000
think of they can go you know

685
00:23:15,760 --> 00:23:20,400
um i've got a character in the book that

686
00:23:18,000 --> 00:23:22,080
i'm hoping they'll encounter they took a

687
00:23:20,400 --> 00:23:23,280
completely different path to what i

688
00:23:22,080 --> 00:23:24,880
thought they would

689
00:23:23,280 --> 00:23:26,240
and then they might not encounter this

690
00:23:24,880 --> 00:23:28,320
character i was going to have him join

691
00:23:26,240 --> 00:23:30,720
him and follow him around and be i feel

692
00:23:28,320 --> 00:23:32,960
really annoying

693
00:23:30,720 --> 00:23:34,960
um because the name was up and down and

694
00:23:32,960 --> 00:23:37,360
yeah so as i said played it with a few

695
00:23:34,960 --> 00:23:39,520
friends he was this really hyperactive

696
00:23:37,360 --> 00:23:41,039
gnome and really excited to talk to him

697
00:23:39,520 --> 00:23:43,120
and he's even to the point i'm like

698
00:23:41,039 --> 00:23:44,640
myself jumping up and down

699
00:23:43,120 --> 00:23:46,000
while i'm trying to give him these

700
00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:47,120
directions

701
00:23:46,000 --> 00:23:48,080
and um

702
00:23:47,120 --> 00:23:50,400
yeah i'm not even sure if they're going

703
00:23:48,080 --> 00:23:52,400
to encounter him at this rate i know i

704
00:23:50,400 --> 00:23:53,360
know that pain all too well it's great

705
00:23:52,400 --> 00:23:55,679
because they're doing a lot of other

706
00:23:53,360 --> 00:23:56,640
stuff that i wasn't expecting

707
00:23:55,679 --> 00:23:58,159
so

708
00:23:56,640 --> 00:24:00,400
there's sort of that chance to try and

709
00:23:58,159 --> 00:24:01,279
develop other parts of what you're doing

710
00:24:00,400 --> 00:24:02,799
yeah

711
00:24:01,279 --> 00:24:04,400
you know rather than playing what you've

712
00:24:02,799 --> 00:24:06,880
done before and

713
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:10,000
decided from there yes yeah i think even

714
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:12,240
the best rpgs you can see the strings

715
00:24:10,000 --> 00:24:13,840
like i mean like video game rpgs you can

716
00:24:12,240 --> 00:24:15,039
see the strings a little bit and the

717
00:24:13,840 --> 00:24:17,200
walls and

718
00:24:15,039 --> 00:24:19,360
it can't help but you know destroy that

719
00:24:17,200 --> 00:24:21,200
uh suspension of disbelief yeah whereas

720
00:24:19,360 --> 00:24:23,520
with this there's there's well doesn't

721
00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,799
it rarely ever any kind of strings no

722
00:24:23,520 --> 00:24:26,159
yeah

723
00:24:24,799 --> 00:24:27,760
i think are your players back are they

724
00:24:26,159 --> 00:24:29,520
ready to go i don't know they might be

725
00:24:27,760 --> 00:24:31,120
i'll uh in which case then i'll let you

726
00:24:29,520 --> 00:24:32,400
get back your very important job you

727
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:33,840
have to do yes so otherwise thank you

728
00:24:32,400 --> 00:24:36,320
very much james for joining me today for

729
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:36,320
having me on

730
00:24:39,679 --> 00:24:44,840
uh and i'm this time joined by anastasia

731
00:24:42,720 --> 00:24:47,039
thank you ever so much for joining us

732
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:48,720
tonight no it's the pleasures were all

733
00:24:47,039 --> 00:24:50,159
mine of being here

734
00:24:48,720 --> 00:24:53,200
um

735
00:24:50,159 --> 00:24:54,960
yeah um my name's anastasia uh i have

736
00:24:53,200 --> 00:24:58,240
been dm'ing for

737
00:24:54,960 --> 00:25:00,080
three years since 2018 um and i'm here

738
00:24:58,240 --> 00:25:02,159
tonight in geek retreat because i'm

739
00:25:00,080 --> 00:25:02,960
mostly just helping people out with d

740
00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:04,799
it's

741
00:25:02,960 --> 00:25:07,039
weird because i think i'm the youngest

742
00:25:04,799 --> 00:25:10,080
person here but i have a lot of

743
00:25:07,039 --> 00:25:11,520
experience which is very scary to say i

744
00:25:10,080 --> 00:25:13,360
wouldn't have said that

745
00:25:11,520 --> 00:25:14,400
probably even two years into playing i i

746
00:25:13,360 --> 00:25:16,400
wouldn't have said that i have a lot of

747
00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:18,159
experience yeah um

748
00:25:16,400 --> 00:25:20,240
yeah i jumped head first into dm'ing

749
00:25:18,159 --> 00:25:22,559
like an idiot

750
00:25:20,240 --> 00:25:23,520
join the club did you actually yeah yeah

751
00:25:22,559 --> 00:25:26,559
i'm

752
00:25:23,520 --> 00:25:28,400
very much uh like an obsessive person so

753
00:25:26,559 --> 00:25:30,159
yeah well you have to you have when

754
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:32,000
you're doing your dm you have to be that

755
00:25:30,159 --> 00:25:35,279
sort of um

756
00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:37,279
detailed person that very detailed like

757
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:39,120
remember that npc said that in session

758
00:25:37,279 --> 00:25:41,200
two and the players are like no

759
00:25:39,120 --> 00:25:43,760
you're like who's that npc again

760
00:25:41,200 --> 00:25:44,640
very important integral character um but

761
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:47,200
yeah

762
00:25:44,640 --> 00:25:49,200
jumped head first into dming huh yeah i

763
00:25:47,200 --> 00:25:50,320
did play for a little bit beforehand um

764
00:25:49,200 --> 00:25:53,679
but i

765
00:25:50,320 --> 00:25:55,600
really didn't enjoy that game so um okay

766
00:25:53,679 --> 00:25:57,279
it's really good that you stuck with it

767
00:25:55,600 --> 00:25:59,360
then because i know a lot of people will

768
00:25:57,279 --> 00:26:02,559
have like garbage first games and then

769
00:25:59,360 --> 00:26:06,240
be put off i was an anxiety driven uh

770
00:26:02,559 --> 00:26:08,720
teenager uh 15 i still am young but 15

771
00:26:06,240 --> 00:26:12,400
and i was like how can i make my gcse

772
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:14,799
years worse um by jumping straight into

773
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:17,039
dming okay um when i first started dming

774
00:26:14,799 --> 00:26:19,120
i started deeming i only exclusively dm

775
00:26:17,039 --> 00:26:21,360
online i've done a few one shots in

776
00:26:19,120 --> 00:26:24,400
person but i love dming online a lot

777
00:26:21,360 --> 00:26:26,480
more and i met a bunch of random people

778
00:26:24,400 --> 00:26:28,960
yeah i've got two american players who i

779
00:26:26,480 --> 00:26:31,120
met ages ago um and then a bunch of

780
00:26:28,960 --> 00:26:32,640
people from the uk and i started dming

781
00:26:31,120 --> 00:26:34,880
and um

782
00:26:32,640 --> 00:26:36,400
yeah it was so anxiety-inducing i used

783
00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:39,279
to faint before

784
00:26:36,400 --> 00:26:41,039
sessions yes okay i i used to think a

785
00:26:39,279 --> 00:26:43,679
lot but i used to fake before sessions

786
00:26:41,039 --> 00:26:45,919
and there was one time um

787
00:26:43,679 --> 00:26:46,880
like my current boyfriend actually uh he

788
00:26:45,919 --> 00:26:48,559
uh

789
00:26:46,880 --> 00:26:50,559
i met him for online and i met him

790
00:26:48,559 --> 00:26:52,240
through this game okay and um i was

791
00:26:50,559 --> 00:26:54,559
dm'ing and he's very experienced he was

792
00:26:52,240 --> 00:26:56,880
a very experienced player um and uh very

793
00:26:54,559 --> 00:26:59,120
much cared about the game and i had no

794
00:26:56,880 --> 00:27:00,720
idea what i was doing um and uh he was

795
00:26:59,120 --> 00:27:02,240
like i want to tell you because he he's

796
00:27:00,720 --> 00:27:05,360
dyslexic so he was like i'd rather tell

797
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:05,840
you my backstory in a voice call and i

798
00:27:05,360 --> 00:27:07,279
um was like

799
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:08,799
was like okay and i'll make myself some

800
00:27:07,279 --> 00:27:12,000
tea and then i passed out while walking

801
00:27:08,799 --> 00:27:13,919
to my room and i scolded myself and

802
00:27:12,000 --> 00:27:16,240
after that i was like oh i'm fine i

803
00:27:13,919 --> 00:27:18,159
decided to listen to his backstory

804
00:27:16,240 --> 00:27:19,360
and not write any of it down he doesn't

805
00:27:18,159 --> 00:27:22,399
know that

806
00:27:19,360 --> 00:27:24,159
if i if i somehow share this episode

807
00:27:22,399 --> 00:27:25,679
when you share this episode um they will

808
00:27:24,159 --> 00:27:26,960
find out that i've i never wrote it down

809
00:27:25,679 --> 00:27:29,279
you've got you've got some time before

810
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,720
it airs you've got a couple of weeks

811
00:27:29,279 --> 00:27:32,240
he's coming over this weekend so i can

812
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:34,559
tell him but um well it doesn't matter

813
00:27:32,240 --> 00:27:37,200
because the campaign's over um

814
00:27:34,559 --> 00:27:39,200
swore under the bridge fine i did just

815
00:27:37,200 --> 00:27:40,880
um emotionally destroy his character in

816
00:27:39,200 --> 00:27:43,440
that game though which was fair the

817
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:46,080
first campaign has to be emotionally

818
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:48,320
a roller coaster but

819
00:27:46,080 --> 00:27:52,480
yeah wow you really you you probably

820
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:55,200
more so than me jumped into dming though

821
00:27:52,480 --> 00:27:58,000
i had gcses and i was like how can i

822
00:27:55,200 --> 00:27:59,120
write more yeah in this time

823
00:27:58,000 --> 00:28:01,039
my

824
00:27:59,120 --> 00:28:02,880
it was actually my a level was but my

825
00:28:01,039 --> 00:28:06,000
advice that my a-level time was world of

826
00:28:02,880 --> 00:28:08,080
warcraft uh we had a very similar impact

827
00:28:06,000 --> 00:28:10,320
shall we say on my uh

828
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:12,240
academic years

829
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:14,559
yeah i mean

830
00:28:12,240 --> 00:28:17,200
i i imagine that warcraft would just

831
00:28:14,559 --> 00:28:18,399
derail you so hard from dcsc is i know

832
00:28:17,200 --> 00:28:20,159
that a bunch of get when i was doing

833
00:28:18,399 --> 00:28:21,440
a-levels a bunch of games i say about

834
00:28:20,159 --> 00:28:23,440
doing a-levels like i didn't just do

835
00:28:21,440 --> 00:28:25,600
them this year um

836
00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:27,279
that will just sidetrack you so much and

837
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,880
yeah with me

838
00:28:27,279 --> 00:28:30,960
during a-levels it was

839
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:32,159
can i just go home and play d and d yeah

840
00:28:30,960 --> 00:28:34,080
like i'm just sat there like writing an

841
00:28:32,159 --> 00:28:36,000
exam and i'm like oh i have a

842
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,760
game today but and then got cancelled

843
00:28:36,000 --> 00:28:39,360
because i have an english exam

844
00:28:37,760 --> 00:28:42,720
and i'm like huh

845
00:28:39,360 --> 00:28:45,279
yeah it's just um my my main dm is in

846
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:49,200
uni my boyfriend who plays in the games

847
00:28:45,279 --> 00:28:51,760
that i play in is uh he works 24 7. i

848
00:28:49,200 --> 00:28:53,039
freelance and uh my other friend who's

849
00:28:51,760 --> 00:28:55,120
an artist just doesn't work doesn't do

850
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:56,320
anything um and she just she just draws

851
00:28:55,120 --> 00:28:58,559
all of my characters so it's okay it's

852
00:28:56,320 --> 00:29:00,159
basically relatively of when three of us

853
00:28:58,559 --> 00:29:01,760
are free well two of them are free and

854
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:03,840
then me and the other two other person

855
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:04,720
waiting going can we play this week

856
00:29:03,840 --> 00:29:07,520
please

857
00:29:04,720 --> 00:29:10,480
like i'd love to play i think i struck

858
00:29:07,520 --> 00:29:13,279
gold with my game that i run a campaign

859
00:29:10,480 --> 00:29:15,679
at the moment just one i run one yeah

860
00:29:13,279 --> 00:29:17,760
but i give it my all right no no i i

861
00:29:15,679 --> 00:29:19,120
commend people who just i say just from

862
00:29:17,760 --> 00:29:21,200
one camera like i'm like

863
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:23,039
above i'm not um

864
00:29:21,200 --> 00:29:26,240
i'd love to go back to dming just one

865
00:29:23,039 --> 00:29:28,559
campaign yeah genuinely yeah so what my

866
00:29:26,240 --> 00:29:31,440
in a similar way we were i think the

867
00:29:28,559 --> 00:29:32,799
first couple of months were week to week

868
00:29:31,440 --> 00:29:34,080
and it's at one point i said like we

869
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:37,440
have to push that back to two weeks

870
00:29:34,080 --> 00:29:38,840
because i just it was wasn't enough time

871
00:29:37,440 --> 00:29:42,080
for me and my other

872
00:29:38,840 --> 00:29:43,600
responsibilities as a adult person

873
00:29:42,080 --> 00:29:45,200
so i was like we need to push that back

874
00:29:43,600 --> 00:29:46,880
to every two weeks and i've got a very

875
00:29:45,200 --> 00:29:48,880
good cadence now we're very happy with

876
00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:51,440
that i have that as well um so i run uh

877
00:29:48,880 --> 00:29:53,200
the catastrophe module if yeah yes i

878
00:29:51,440 --> 00:29:54,640
started running it the are you aware of

879
00:29:53,200 --> 00:29:56,159
the big reveal i'm not going to spoil

880
00:29:54,640 --> 00:29:58,080
anything but

881
00:29:56,159 --> 00:30:00,480
no but there is a massive big reveal in

882
00:29:58,080 --> 00:30:01,840
curse of strawd and uh it had to do with

883
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,440
one of my players i'm not going to say

884
00:30:01,840 --> 00:30:06,080
any what it is if you know curtis straw

885
00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:08,399
there's there's a lot of things but um

886
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:10,080
my i revealed it's one of my players and

887
00:30:08,399 --> 00:30:11,679
uh the week that the day i revealed it

888
00:30:10,080 --> 00:30:13,600
the next day i was supposed to be going

889
00:30:11,679 --> 00:30:15,600
up to leeds where she lives

890
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:17,440
and so i spent a whole week with her

891
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:19,919
um after emotionally destroying their

892
00:30:17,440 --> 00:30:22,399
party and she was just like

893
00:30:19,919 --> 00:30:25,440
we couldn't avoid the conversation about

894
00:30:22,399 --> 00:30:27,679
that session because it was so like

895
00:30:25,440 --> 00:30:30,159
law dump of course but and you know and

896
00:30:27,679 --> 00:30:32,159
her she loves she loves her crack

897
00:30:30,159 --> 00:30:33,600
theories

898
00:30:32,159 --> 00:30:34,640
she's a notetaker player so she'll come

899
00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:36,480
up to me and she'll be like is this

900
00:30:34,640 --> 00:30:37,840
right and i'm like i can't yeah i can't

901
00:30:36,480 --> 00:30:39,440
say that my

902
00:30:37,840 --> 00:30:40,880
my favorite thing to do is a dm if a

903
00:30:39,440 --> 00:30:43,120
player says something doesn't matter if

904
00:30:40,880 --> 00:30:44,799
it's right or wrong i will always say

905
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,559
what makes you think that yeah and no

906
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,159
matter what it is uh even if they're

907
00:30:46,559 --> 00:30:49,520
completely on like absolutely on the

908
00:30:48,159 --> 00:30:51,039
nose of it because it i like when

909
00:30:49,520 --> 00:30:54,320
players come up to me and talk about my

910
00:30:51,039 --> 00:30:56,559
game outside the game um but

911
00:30:54,320 --> 00:30:59,039
she's so paranoid about everything that

912
00:30:56,559 --> 00:31:00,799
she gives me three theories and then one

913
00:30:59,039 --> 00:31:02,159
of them is so completely right yeah and

914
00:31:00,799 --> 00:31:04,159
then she's like i don't think that's

915
00:31:02,159 --> 00:31:06,799
right now and i'm like oh but you're so

916
00:31:04,159 --> 00:31:10,320
close i can't say that you're so close

917
00:31:06,799 --> 00:31:11,840
that that dm frustration is unanimous i

918
00:31:10,320 --> 00:31:14,080
i yeah i love over sharing with my

919
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:16,480
players uh especially with curse astrad

920
00:31:14,080 --> 00:31:19,279
like i've rewritten most of the module

921
00:31:16,480 --> 00:31:22,720
okay because some of the encounters are

922
00:31:19,279 --> 00:31:24,559
bad and some of the npcs are bad and

923
00:31:22,720 --> 00:31:27,200
i was like what if i'd rewrite it yeah

924
00:31:24,559 --> 00:31:31,039
um so i did painstakingly for seven

925
00:31:27,200 --> 00:31:32,559
months and yeah it came out great

926
00:31:31,039 --> 00:31:34,000
um and

927
00:31:32,559 --> 00:31:35,039
sometimes i just tell them i'm like oh

928
00:31:34,000 --> 00:31:36,080
do you know that this was supposed to

929
00:31:35,039 --> 00:31:38,240
happen in the visual module and they're

930
00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:40,320
like that's stupid i'm like yeah that's

931
00:31:38,240 --> 00:31:41,840
why i rewrote it and a number of my

932
00:31:40,320 --> 00:31:43,519
previous guests have done exactly that

933
00:31:41,840 --> 00:31:45,440
and i've just gone yeah i just tore like

934
00:31:43,519 --> 00:31:46,960
half of it out and rebuilding it modules

935
00:31:45,440 --> 00:31:49,600
yeah especially i mean the model that

936
00:31:46,960 --> 00:31:51,840
they're running over there um is fine i

937
00:31:49,600 --> 00:31:53,200
i i was when he's dming i look after

938
00:31:51,840 --> 00:31:54,799
shoulder and i read it a little bit and

939
00:31:53,200 --> 00:31:56,640
um it doesn't look that bad it's a

940
00:31:54,799 --> 00:31:58,159
starter module so yes but to be fair i

941
00:31:56,640 --> 00:31:59,919
think that one's a bit better than found

942
00:31:58,159 --> 00:32:02,000
over i've been playing lost minds and

943
00:31:59,919 --> 00:32:04,240
found elva as a very experienced player

944
00:32:02,000 --> 00:32:06,399
we're like three three very experienced

945
00:32:04,240 --> 00:32:09,039
players playing lost minds and we make

946
00:32:06,399 --> 00:32:10,960
our own problems so for example uh this

947
00:32:09,039 --> 00:32:13,600
is a great story i'm playing a triton

948
00:32:10,960 --> 00:32:16,159
samurai in that game awesome um we have

949
00:32:13,600 --> 00:32:18,000
a i i'll describe this his character as

950
00:32:16,159 --> 00:32:19,919
a lawyer from hell because he basically

951
00:32:18,000 --> 00:32:22,399
is he's a tiefling ill rigger which is

952
00:32:19,919 --> 00:32:23,600
like a thing that covers yeah

953
00:32:22,399 --> 00:32:25,840
oh wait do you know about your regular

954
00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,600
oh yeah yeah really okay sorry everybody

955
00:32:25,840 --> 00:32:30,000
say it everyone looks at me like oh no

956
00:32:27,600 --> 00:32:32,320
i'm all in there all in there yeah loves

957
00:32:30,000 --> 00:32:35,039
that guy also a mat

958
00:32:32,320 --> 00:32:37,200
shout out matt oh my my dm loves matt

959
00:32:35,039 --> 00:32:38,559
cover as well um and yeah he's playing a

960
00:32:37,200 --> 00:32:40,480
tiefling illegal who's basically just a

961
00:32:38,559 --> 00:32:43,360
lawyer from hell and then we have a

962
00:32:40,480 --> 00:32:45,919
calistar beasts conclave ranger with a

963
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,480
dog okay um so we are a crazy party yeah

964
00:32:45,919 --> 00:32:50,000
when we walked into the first encounter

965
00:32:48,480 --> 00:32:52,399
the uh cave

966
00:32:50,000 --> 00:32:54,480
yes yeah is it goblins the goblins yes

967
00:32:52,399 --> 00:32:56,399
which our dm he's changed it he knows

968
00:32:54,480 --> 00:32:58,640
how to play very well and we changed it

969
00:32:56,399 --> 00:33:00,240
and we walked in and i cast fog cloud

970
00:32:58,640 --> 00:33:01,760
because our ranger was about to she

971
00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:03,120
walked up the little thing to go just

972
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:03,919
straight to the boss room and then she

973
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:06,399
like

974
00:33:03,919 --> 00:33:09,120
dropped to zero so i cast fog cloud and

975
00:33:06,399 --> 00:33:11,440
then the ilriga decided to use

976
00:33:09,120 --> 00:33:13,600
thumbaturgy and convince every goblin

977
00:33:11,440 --> 00:33:16,559
and the bugbear chief that there was a

978
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:18,480
they had angered a fog god oh right okay

979
00:33:16,559 --> 00:33:20,480
and it was a very good intimidation

980
00:33:18,480 --> 00:33:21,679
check and when we went back there they

981
00:33:20,480 --> 00:33:24,159
were like can you please cleanse us of

982
00:33:21,679 --> 00:33:24,960
the fog god and we did and it was great

983
00:33:24,159 --> 00:33:26,720
it was

984
00:33:24,960 --> 00:33:28,880
we avoided

985
00:33:26,720 --> 00:33:31,600
pretty much the entirety of the dungeon

986
00:33:28,880 --> 00:33:33,760
because we decided to just be annoying

987
00:33:31,600 --> 00:33:35,679
yeah that's great the dm facilitated

988
00:33:33,760 --> 00:33:36,960
that as well yeah fantastic yes i mean

989
00:33:35,679 --> 00:33:38,880
he pulls a lot of shenanigans as a

990
00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:41,360
player as well he

991
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:44,080
jumps out of windows and attacks npcs or

992
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:46,159
he grabs i mean

993
00:33:44,080 --> 00:33:49,039
the dm is my boyfriend and i love him

994
00:33:46,159 --> 00:33:50,640
but sometimes i wish that he

995
00:33:49,039 --> 00:33:51,919
wouldn't do things to hurt me as a

996
00:33:50,640 --> 00:33:54,399
player

997
00:33:51,919 --> 00:33:56,480
he very he's a very very very i mean all

998
00:33:54,399 --> 00:33:57,279
my players are very smart people yeah um

999
00:33:56,480 --> 00:33:58,880
but

1000
00:33:57,279 --> 00:34:02,000
they just take it a bit too far

1001
00:33:58,880 --> 00:34:03,600
sometimes and uh hurt me um i'm very

1002
00:34:02,000 --> 00:34:05,760
good at saving face i'm very good at

1003
00:34:03,600 --> 00:34:07,600
like being especially on a cool when you

1004
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,200
can just if you even make a face

1005
00:34:07,600 --> 00:34:10,240
yeah yeah you're behind the voice so you

1006
00:34:09,200 --> 00:34:11,839
don't have to you don't have to do it

1007
00:34:10,240 --> 00:34:13,119
yeah but

1008
00:34:11,839 --> 00:34:16,240
i have had a few moments when i've been

1009
00:34:13,119 --> 00:34:18,480
dming where i will be like

1010
00:34:16,240 --> 00:34:19,280
like about something and i'll audibly be

1011
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:22,320
uh

1012
00:34:19,280 --> 00:34:24,399
upset yeah which is obviously going to

1013
00:34:22,320 --> 00:34:26,240
happen with dnd

1014
00:34:24,399 --> 00:34:28,560
but it's fun i i like dming for that

1015
00:34:26,240 --> 00:34:30,399
reason because i i love it when a player

1016
00:34:28,560 --> 00:34:31,760
is just like i'm gonna do this and i

1017
00:34:30,399 --> 00:34:32,879
would have never thought of that yeah i

1018
00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:34,320
would have never as a player i would

1019
00:34:32,879 --> 00:34:36,240
have never thought of that yeah i've

1020
00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:37,599
lost count of times when i've gone there

1021
00:34:36,240 --> 00:34:39,440
okay

1022
00:34:37,599 --> 00:34:41,520
this is this is now happening okay yeah

1023
00:34:39,440 --> 00:34:42,480
actually like you've got a long pause

1024
00:34:41,520 --> 00:34:44,480
and you're like

1025
00:34:42,480 --> 00:34:46,399
what are the consequences of this yeah

1026
00:34:44,480 --> 00:34:48,639
okay yeah um

1027
00:34:46,399 --> 00:34:50,560
so many so many things players classic

1028
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:52,000
the classic uh we'll come back to that

1029
00:34:50,560 --> 00:34:53,040
what are these guys up to well you're

1030
00:34:52,000 --> 00:34:55,280
like

1031
00:34:53,040 --> 00:34:56,399
yes i do that all the time well we'll

1032
00:34:55,280 --> 00:34:57,760
come back to that

1033
00:34:56,399 --> 00:34:58,960
yeah go back to these guys especially

1034
00:34:57,760 --> 00:35:00,560
when you're splitting the party with my

1035
00:34:58,960 --> 00:35:03,200
classic straw there's six players and

1036
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:05,920
they split so often they they have a

1037
00:35:03,200 --> 00:35:08,160
very very colorful cast the bravia is

1038
00:35:05,920 --> 00:35:10,240
super dark misty yeah uh like what

1039
00:35:08,160 --> 00:35:12,400
there's humans and a few elves they're

1040
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:15,200
playing a fallen asmr

1041
00:35:12,400 --> 00:35:18,079
paladin um which is great perfectly fit

1042
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:19,760
for cos um a two teeflings one of big

1043
00:35:18,079 --> 00:35:22,880
one being a homebrew tiefling of a class

1044
00:35:19,760 --> 00:35:26,160
that i made and the other being a bard

1045
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:29,680
um so two teethlings a gift yankee yep

1046
00:35:26,160 --> 00:35:31,440
so june i love surgery a uh human wizard

1047
00:35:29,680 --> 00:35:33,119
and uh which i can't go into debt i

1048
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:34,400
can't say because if someone question if

1049
00:35:33,119 --> 00:35:35,920
i wanted to show this to other people

1050
00:35:34,400 --> 00:35:38,640
then uh i cannot talk about his

1051
00:35:35,920 --> 00:35:40,400
character in any context um and a i'm

1052
00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:42,480
gonna miss the last one my brother my

1053
00:35:40,400 --> 00:35:45,760
brother is a big hulking man he's in

1054
00:35:42,480 --> 00:35:48,320
real life six foot six like big big boy

1055
00:35:45,760 --> 00:35:51,200
uh he plays a five-foot war forge called

1056
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:52,320
azalez and he's very endearing

1057
00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:53,839
um

1058
00:35:52,320 --> 00:35:55,920
who just kind of doesn't understand

1059
00:35:53,839 --> 00:35:57,760
what's going on like he's been asleep

1060
00:35:55,920 --> 00:35:59,119
for a thousand years

1061
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:00,480
they went to like a town and everyone's

1062
00:35:59,119 --> 00:36:01,760
like talking about stuff and he'll

1063
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:03,760
interrupt the conversation and go what

1064
00:36:01,760 --> 00:36:04,960
does that word mean i derail the entire

1065
00:36:03,760 --> 00:36:06,560
plot

1066
00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:09,839
every time he does it this is let me

1067
00:36:06,560 --> 00:36:12,240
tell you so my my campaign is uh

1068
00:36:09,839 --> 00:36:13,839
homebrew at the moment homebrew campaign

1069
00:36:12,240 --> 00:36:16,160
and my players are

1070
00:36:13,839 --> 00:36:17,920
kind of equally well actually slightly

1071
00:36:16,160 --> 00:36:20,480
less weird and wacky but i also have a

1072
00:36:17,920 --> 00:36:21,839
warforged player who's a warforged druid

1073
00:36:20,480 --> 00:36:23,359
and he also has been asleep for a

1074
00:36:21,839 --> 00:36:25,200
thousand years what makes sense for

1075
00:36:23,359 --> 00:36:26,960
druid i am playing a

1076
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:28,720
in i also play in a custom start game

1077
00:36:26,960 --> 00:36:31,040
which i should be playing tomorrow

1078
00:36:28,720 --> 00:36:33,119
where i play well to everyone's

1079
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:35,119
knowledge i play a warforged artificer

1080
00:36:33,119 --> 00:36:37,280
yeah um you know i'm going with this

1081
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:39,760
yeah i'm playing a gnome in a mech suit

1082
00:36:37,280 --> 00:36:41,280
and um she's great because the warfare

1083
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:43,200
artifacts are his well he's not a

1084
00:36:41,280 --> 00:36:45,599
warforged he's a sentient i'm playing

1085
00:36:43,200 --> 00:36:47,119
two essentially he's a sentient like uh

1086
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,000
the armorer artificer that came out i'm

1087
00:36:47,119 --> 00:36:52,160
playing that yeah yeah yes he was made

1088
00:36:50,000 --> 00:36:54,720
his name is arc which stands for

1089
00:36:52,160 --> 00:36:57,760
automated reassuring caretaker and he

1090
00:36:54,720 --> 00:37:00,320
was a uh wolf wage maid well a

1091
00:36:57,760 --> 00:37:02,160
uh a suit made by um my character's

1092
00:37:00,320 --> 00:37:04,000
disabled father and then he disappeared

1093
00:37:02,160 --> 00:37:05,520
and she was like well

1094
00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:06,800
guess i'm gonna cry because she's a

1095
00:37:05,520 --> 00:37:08,560
gnome and

1096
00:37:06,800 --> 00:37:10,960
she needs that physical affection yeah

1097
00:37:08,560 --> 00:37:12,880
so she just lives in she well the way i

1098
00:37:10,960 --> 00:37:15,599
describe it she lives in the suit of

1099
00:37:12,880 --> 00:37:17,200
armor kind of like um

1100
00:37:15,599 --> 00:37:19,839
kind of like how a gamer room like a

1101
00:37:17,200 --> 00:37:22,839
typical like gamer room would be and

1102
00:37:19,839 --> 00:37:22,839
she's

1103
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:30,880
[Music]

1104
00:37:28,240 --> 00:37:33,599
they are all based on pop culture so for

1105
00:37:30,880 --> 00:37:36,320
example uh my oldest character is based

1106
00:37:33,599 --> 00:37:38,560
off of the literally overwatch um the

1107
00:37:36,320 --> 00:37:39,599
honor and glory uh cinematic with when

1108
00:37:38,560 --> 00:37:40,800
baldrick picked up the two hammers

1109
00:37:39,599 --> 00:37:43,280
that's literally that's exactly what

1110
00:37:40,800 --> 00:37:45,839
she's based on the other character based

1111
00:37:43,280 --> 00:37:48,480
on bayonetta uh another character

1112
00:37:45,839 --> 00:37:50,000
diva um well i say based off they're all

1113
00:37:48,480 --> 00:37:52,480
completely different yeah but i love the

1114
00:37:50,000 --> 00:37:54,480
theming yeah yeah

1115
00:37:52,480 --> 00:37:55,760
this i don't know what the samurai lays

1116
00:37:54,480 --> 00:37:58,079
um like

1117
00:37:55,760 --> 00:37:59,280
oh no it's overwatch oh god i stopped

1118
00:37:58,079 --> 00:38:00,880
playing i watched overwatch two years

1119
00:37:59,280 --> 00:38:03,200
ago but i'm still influenced by it yeah

1120
00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:05,040
it seems she's very like a hanzo s like

1121
00:38:03,200 --> 00:38:06,400
like driven character yeah i built a

1122
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,160
samurai once it was very similar yeah

1123
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,920
very like very like i must reclaim my

1124
00:38:08,160 --> 00:38:11,760
homeland and prove myself stuff like

1125
00:38:09,920 --> 00:38:13,200
that but yeah yeah god i just realized

1126
00:38:11,760 --> 00:38:15,040
most of my characters are just yeah

1127
00:38:13,200 --> 00:38:17,599
they're all popcorn references because i

1128
00:38:15,040 --> 00:38:19,440
i just love stuff like that um i made it

1129
00:38:17,599 --> 00:38:22,160
i made a uh i can't remember the race

1130
00:38:19,440 --> 00:38:23,520
but he was a armorer artificer as well

1131
00:38:22,160 --> 00:38:25,680
and it was a

1132
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:28,960
like three shot while we were into it

1133
00:38:25,680 --> 00:38:30,320
yeah but i wanted to build him like

1134
00:38:28,960 --> 00:38:31,520
the way we ended up building it was like

1135
00:38:30,320 --> 00:38:33,920
three old

1136
00:38:31,520 --> 00:38:35,520
men like curmudgeons but in my head

1137
00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:36,880
before we actually that was dynamic yeah

1138
00:38:35,520 --> 00:38:38,800
it came out organically through the play

1139
00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:42,640
but in my head before that i was like

1140
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:44,160
this is a like space marine power armor

1141
00:38:42,640 --> 00:38:45,680
i want to be hulking around you want to

1142
00:38:44,160 --> 00:38:47,599
be honest lightning claws that they

1143
00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:49,680
literally get just under gauntlets yeah

1144
00:38:47,599 --> 00:38:50,960
they're so good yeah so i re-skin those

1145
00:38:49,680 --> 00:38:53,440
just like lightning borders because

1146
00:38:50,960 --> 00:38:56,000
they're sick so yes

1147
00:38:53,440 --> 00:38:58,160
one shot's a great oh my god for those

1148
00:38:56,000 --> 00:39:00,800
things yeah well one shots are great in

1149
00:38:58,160 --> 00:39:02,160
general i have two really good one shots

1150
00:39:00,800 --> 00:39:02,960
that i ran

1151
00:39:02,160 --> 00:39:05,599
um

1152
00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:07,359
my first ever one shot which was um

1153
00:39:05,599 --> 00:39:09,599
great one of the

1154
00:39:07,359 --> 00:39:11,040
one of the players was uh basically i

1155
00:39:09,599 --> 00:39:12,720
don't want to say the imposter because

1156
00:39:11,040 --> 00:39:15,040
it just reminds me of among us um but

1157
00:39:12,720 --> 00:39:17,200
one of them was a i gave i was i caught

1158
00:39:15,040 --> 00:39:18,880
the factions one shot uh i may i gave

1159
00:39:17,200 --> 00:39:20,320
every player a faction in my world and

1160
00:39:18,880 --> 00:39:21,200
the whole point of my campaign was that

1161
00:39:20,320 --> 00:39:22,800
like there were these there was this

1162
00:39:21,200 --> 00:39:23,920
evil faction and that's basically all

1163
00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,680
you need to know

1164
00:39:23,920 --> 00:39:27,599
were my one of my players rolled the

1165
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:30,000
perfection

1166
00:39:27,599 --> 00:39:31,680
uh i basically had him

1167
00:39:30,000 --> 00:39:32,880
kill the rest of the party in the one

1168
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,800
shot

1169
00:39:32,880 --> 00:39:36,800
and that that was bad because they

1170
00:39:34,800 --> 00:39:38,480
caused a major catastrophe in my world

1171
00:39:36,800 --> 00:39:40,320
and the other one shot that was a very

1172
00:39:38,480 --> 00:39:43,200
serious like story driven one shot the

1173
00:39:40,320 --> 00:39:44,000
other one shot was um

1174
00:39:43,200 --> 00:39:45,359
uh

1175
00:39:44,000 --> 00:39:47,440
they were pirates and that was pretty

1176
00:39:45,359 --> 00:39:49,119
much the gist of it we just ran with

1177
00:39:47,440 --> 00:39:50,800
everything that one shot they killed my

1178
00:39:49,119 --> 00:39:52,240
final boss at one shot with a rock and i

1179
00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:54,480
mean like a pebble

1180
00:39:52,240 --> 00:39:56,079
right okay um like they threw it at him

1181
00:39:54,480 --> 00:39:57,520
and he died he took two damage and died

1182
00:39:56,079 --> 00:39:59,280
i think it was 10 no 10 damage and he

1183
00:39:57,520 --> 00:40:01,119
died because they were playing they were

1184
00:39:59,280 --> 00:40:03,599
playing ua they're playing the creation

1185
00:40:01,119 --> 00:40:05,359
bard i think oh yes is that now released

1186
00:40:03,599 --> 00:40:07,280
in one of the books or was that still ua

1187
00:40:05,359 --> 00:40:09,440
still uh okay because spirits got

1188
00:40:07,280 --> 00:40:10,880
released you're not raving off book but

1189
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,640
yeah

1190
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:13,680
one shots man

1191
00:40:12,640 --> 00:40:15,119
i i

1192
00:40:13,680 --> 00:40:16,880
even the one shots i've played in have

1193
00:40:15,119 --> 00:40:18,240
been really good i in every one shot

1194
00:40:16,880 --> 00:40:20,640
i've played them my character has been

1195
00:40:18,240 --> 00:40:22,880
close to death okay or evil but no in

1196
00:40:20,640 --> 00:40:24,640
between uh i died in a one shot because

1197
00:40:22,880 --> 00:40:25,839
i rode in that one in a sewer and the

1198
00:40:24,640 --> 00:40:27,280
one shot just ended we couldn't play

1199
00:40:25,839 --> 00:40:28,560
anymore because my character had all it

1200
00:40:27,280 --> 00:40:30,560
was a mystery one shot and my character

1201
00:40:28,560 --> 00:40:32,000
was a smart a smart character she had

1202
00:40:30,560 --> 00:40:33,680
all the information

1203
00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:35,839
together because she pieced it together

1204
00:40:33,680 --> 00:40:39,280
and i died in a sewer

1205
00:40:35,839 --> 00:40:40,800
to a smoke metal how unglamorous her

1206
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,480
name was yeah she was she was she was

1207
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,119
she was a horrible character she was a

1208
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:47,200
she was um very like fbi based she was

1209
00:40:45,119 --> 00:40:48,480
very like privacy shouldn't exist and

1210
00:40:47,200 --> 00:40:50,560
stuff like that oh yeah she was very

1211
00:40:48,480 --> 00:40:52,240
hard for the state and then another

1212
00:40:50,560 --> 00:40:53,920
character we played us one shot where we

1213
00:40:52,240 --> 00:40:55,440
got to play the characters in like other

1214
00:40:53,920 --> 00:40:57,359
games that died so i played a character

1215
00:40:55,440 --> 00:41:00,160
with the first campaign and i died to an

1216
00:40:57,359 --> 00:41:02,160
elfishnay now for schnee big pig demon

1217
00:41:00,160 --> 00:41:04,880
um and um

1218
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:06,800
yeah that was horrible

1219
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,560
any one shot i play in

1220
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:10,800
i usually just decline playing in one

1221
00:41:08,560 --> 00:41:13,440
shots because i know that i will die um

1222
00:41:10,800 --> 00:41:16,079
and ruin the whole game for everyone um

1223
00:41:13,440 --> 00:41:16,079
but yeah

1224
00:41:16,400 --> 00:41:20,480
so i think before we started recording

1225
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:22,720
you mentioned you're kind of like

1226
00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:26,319
co-pilot yes

1227
00:41:22,720 --> 00:41:28,640
tonight so i have well aside from i mean

1228
00:41:26,319 --> 00:41:30,079
i've always been a player but i've i've

1229
00:41:28,640 --> 00:41:32,319
i'm at being a dm myself i'm always

1230
00:41:30,079 --> 00:41:34,640
there to assist with you know rules

1231
00:41:32,319 --> 00:41:36,480
calling and

1232
00:41:34,640 --> 00:41:38,240
any experience of that position that you

1233
00:41:36,480 --> 00:41:40,079
currently occupy so what how does how is

1234
00:41:38,240 --> 00:41:41,680
that working um so

1235
00:41:40,079 --> 00:41:43,839
what i codium i've codium survival games

1236
00:41:41,680 --> 00:41:45,520
as well uh i mean to be fair most of our

1237
00:41:43,839 --> 00:41:47,200
dm circle just sends each other stuff

1238
00:41:45,520 --> 00:41:50,400
and we go is this okay to put against my

1239
00:41:47,200 --> 00:41:51,599
players no uh and we rewrite it um but

1240
00:41:50,400 --> 00:41:54,960
most of my group i think most of the

1241
00:41:51,599 --> 00:41:57,200
dm's that i know kind of do that online

1242
00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:58,960
but um in person it's a lot different

1243
00:41:57,200 --> 00:42:01,839
cody emming usually kind of just entails

1244
00:41:58,960 --> 00:42:03,359
um i i've read some of his notes uh some

1245
00:42:01,839 --> 00:42:05,200
of the changes he's made i look at the

1246
00:42:03,359 --> 00:42:07,520
mod i looked at the module uh and i kind

1247
00:42:05,200 --> 00:42:09,680
of was like here are some pointers as to

1248
00:42:07,520 --> 00:42:12,400
what you shouldn't be doing um in terms

1249
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:15,359
of like me just noticing ah that's a bit

1250
00:42:12,400 --> 00:42:17,119
jank um get rid of it um yeah run

1251
00:42:15,359 --> 00:42:18,640
remember i said i always said to him

1252
00:42:17,119 --> 00:42:19,920
remember that you want to if you want to

1253
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:20,800
run something homebrew after this you

1254
00:42:19,920 --> 00:42:22,319
know

1255
00:42:20,800 --> 00:42:23,119
set those leads up even if it's just

1256
00:42:22,319 --> 00:42:24,880
like

1257
00:42:23,119 --> 00:42:27,760
quick like something really quickly um

1258
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:29,200
just set those up uh at the beginning

1259
00:42:27,760 --> 00:42:31,040
codename is not if you're if you're an

1260
00:42:29,200 --> 00:42:32,720
experienced dm i'd say as well um and

1261
00:42:31,040 --> 00:42:35,040
your friend wants to get into dnd it

1262
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:37,200
there's no harm in just

1263
00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:38,560
sitting in on their sessions and

1264
00:42:37,200 --> 00:42:41,760
like not even playing don't even like

1265
00:42:38,560 --> 00:42:44,720
don't i i would i advise um kind of if

1266
00:42:41,760 --> 00:42:47,040
you're a codium don't play in the game

1267
00:42:44,720 --> 00:42:49,200
that uh your friend wants to run because

1268
00:42:47,040 --> 00:42:50,880
most likely you're going to be

1269
00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:53,520
one the leader of the party because you

1270
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:55,359
know the most um which is not the newer

1271
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,280
player should get within themselves that

1272
00:42:55,359 --> 00:42:59,200
group i can see i see one player in

1273
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,400
there is um

1274
00:42:59,200 --> 00:43:01,920
leading very she doesn't know what she's

1275
00:43:00,400 --> 00:43:04,480
doing she's leading very well though

1276
00:43:01,920 --> 00:43:05,760
yeah regardless um

1277
00:43:04,480 --> 00:43:07,359
organically come out of the way

1278
00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:09,040
unfortunately that's a mistake that my

1279
00:43:07,359 --> 00:43:11,040
guys fell into as i said earlier on it

1280
00:43:09,040 --> 00:43:13,200
was it really makes like half a

1281
00:43:11,040 --> 00:43:14,960
six six players yeah so three uh brand

1282
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:16,560
spanking literally just like never

1283
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:18,319
played the babies and the other ones

1284
00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:20,880
have you played it a substantial amount

1285
00:43:18,319 --> 00:43:22,800
yeah and just as you said like de facto

1286
00:43:20,880 --> 00:43:24,560
those that have played it before just

1287
00:43:22,800 --> 00:43:27,599
it means it just means that the new

1288
00:43:24,560 --> 00:43:28,880
players don't get any time to shine i

1289
00:43:27,599 --> 00:43:30,319
don't mean like i mean there's a

1290
00:43:28,880 --> 00:43:31,280
difference between there is definitely a

1291
00:43:30,319 --> 00:43:32,560
difference between someone who has

1292
00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:35,359
played for three years and someone who's

1293
00:43:32,560 --> 00:43:37,040
played for three weeks yes um and you

1294
00:43:35,359 --> 00:43:38,640
should get players who are newer if

1295
00:43:37,040 --> 00:43:40,880
someone's if you like with that group i

1296
00:43:38,640 --> 00:43:42,640
think two of them have played pathfinder

1297
00:43:40,880 --> 00:43:44,079
um and then the two of them are pretty

1298
00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,000
new to dnd and i think that's a fine

1299
00:43:44,079 --> 00:43:46,800
dynamic to have um

1300
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,520
um

1301
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:49,440
but

1302
00:43:47,520 --> 00:43:51,119
i don't think that you should be the

1303
00:43:49,440 --> 00:43:52,960
most experienced player and be like well

1304
00:43:51,119 --> 00:43:54,960
actually we're doing this um and i say

1305
00:43:52,960 --> 00:43:56,800
that because when i first dm'd uh my

1306
00:43:54,960 --> 00:43:57,839
boyfriend once again i hate to name joe

1307
00:43:56,800 --> 00:44:00,480
i hate to just to talk about him

1308
00:43:57,839 --> 00:44:02,000
constantly um but he was one of those

1309
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:04,000
players i was completely new to the game

1310
00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,680
uh well knew dming i hadn't touched in a

1311
00:44:04,000 --> 00:44:07,359
while and he

1312
00:44:05,680 --> 00:44:09,200
the other players kept coming up to bnb

1313
00:44:07,359 --> 00:44:11,280
and had a bit of a

1314
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:12,000
problem with him because he was a bit

1315
00:44:11,280 --> 00:44:13,680
too

1316
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:15,040
rule story

1317
00:44:13,680 --> 00:44:16,560
but then we got to a certain point in

1318
00:44:15,040 --> 00:44:18,960
the game when i knew what i definitely

1319
00:44:16,560 --> 00:44:20,319
knew what i was doing my game and i kind

1320
00:44:18,960 --> 00:44:21,440
of was like

1321
00:44:20,319 --> 00:44:23,119
we're also very good friends at this

1322
00:44:21,440 --> 00:44:25,119
point and i

1323
00:44:23,119 --> 00:44:26,880
there was one time i remember this there

1324
00:44:25,119 --> 00:44:28,800
was one time um he was like that's not

1325
00:44:26,880 --> 00:44:30,800
how that rule works and i was like

1326
00:44:28,800 --> 00:44:33,280
um no i'll check it after the session

1327
00:44:30,800 --> 00:44:35,680
yeah um i never did um because i don't

1328
00:44:33,280 --> 00:44:37,920
care yeah um it was the mentality of

1329
00:44:35,680 --> 00:44:38,880
like what's the most fun for my players

1330
00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:40,800
and

1331
00:44:38,880 --> 00:44:42,960
that just seemed to be the most fun at

1332
00:44:40,800 --> 00:44:44,880
the time yeah there's a weird

1333
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:46,800
pressure on dms because i think people

1334
00:44:44,880 --> 00:44:48,400
think it's very gamey and it doesn't

1335
00:44:46,800 --> 00:44:49,920
necessarily have to be but there's that

1336
00:44:48,400 --> 00:44:51,280
pressure on new dms to be like oh god

1337
00:44:49,920 --> 00:44:54,319
let me check i don't want to make a

1338
00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:56,160
wrong ruling but pretty much 99

1339
00:44:54,319 --> 00:44:58,079
rulings i make for wrong rulings all the

1340
00:44:56,160 --> 00:44:59,839
time even now even someone's like that's

1341
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:01,599
not how that works and i'm like

1342
00:44:59,839 --> 00:45:03,520
uh i'll check after the session and then

1343
00:45:01,599 --> 00:45:05,599
i never do it

1344
00:45:03,520 --> 00:45:07,520
it's a million times better to keep the

1345
00:45:05,599 --> 00:45:08,960
game happening than it is to be like

1346
00:45:07,520 --> 00:45:11,040
right

1347
00:45:08,960 --> 00:45:13,119
i hate when someone uh even as a player

1348
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:15,280
i hate when someone derails the moment

1349
00:45:13,119 --> 00:45:17,839
just look at a rule yeah that's also a

1350
00:45:15,280 --> 00:45:20,000
thing i recommend if you are a player

1351
00:45:17,839 --> 00:45:22,880
please please please read your sheet in

1352
00:45:20,000 --> 00:45:24,880
between sessions please it would make me

1353
00:45:22,880 --> 00:45:26,560
feel some i got into an argument within

1354
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:28,560
my a genuine argument with what she's

1355
00:45:26,560 --> 00:45:29,920
actually having a bad day um but i go

1356
00:45:28,560 --> 00:45:31,280
into an argument with my players about

1357
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,560
it because she

1358
00:45:31,280 --> 00:45:34,720
just didn't read her sheet in between

1359
00:45:32,560 --> 00:45:36,480
sessions and she was playing a cleric

1360
00:45:34,720 --> 00:45:38,000
yeah if you're listening to this i know

1361
00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:40,000
that you i know that i know that you've

1362
00:45:38,000 --> 00:45:41,040
done better now and she's my note taker

1363
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,880
but

1364
00:45:41,040 --> 00:45:44,400
please please read your sheet between

1365
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:46,640
sessions know what your abilities are

1366
00:45:44,400 --> 00:45:48,160
because what i do as a dm is um i don't

1367
00:45:46,640 --> 00:45:49,520
have time to sit through six players

1368
00:45:48,160 --> 00:45:51,040
sheets and sick of you and read your

1369
00:45:49,520 --> 00:45:52,960
back stories i mean i do read everything

1370
00:45:51,040 --> 00:45:54,400
so i don't have to um

1371
00:45:52,960 --> 00:45:55,839
i don't have time to do all of that set

1372
00:45:54,400 --> 00:45:57,760
the game up so when i come to the

1373
00:45:55,839 --> 00:45:59,280
session i read i skip a few sheets for

1374
00:45:57,760 --> 00:46:01,839
example i know padding quite well i

1375
00:45:59,280 --> 00:46:03,359
don't have to skim pad and sheet um

1376
00:46:01,839 --> 00:46:05,520
but um

1377
00:46:03,359 --> 00:46:08,160
you know when i when someone says i'm

1378
00:46:05,520 --> 00:46:10,000
gonna cast this my first question is

1379
00:46:08,160 --> 00:46:13,119
what does that do yeah tell me what do i

1380
00:46:10,000 --> 00:46:14,480
need to do with the dm like you know um

1381
00:46:13,119 --> 00:46:16,319
like even

1382
00:46:14,480 --> 00:46:17,920
even with stunning strike i do that and

1383
00:46:16,319 --> 00:46:19,280
i might have a player who's playing a

1384
00:46:17,920 --> 00:46:21,200
monk for three about two years my

1385
00:46:19,280 --> 00:46:22,560
campaign and ice

1386
00:46:21,200 --> 00:46:23,920
it's it's just good etiquette for a

1387
00:46:22,560 --> 00:46:25,599
player to tell you

1388
00:46:23,920 --> 00:46:27,040
what their ability does because if they

1389
00:46:25,599 --> 00:46:29,040
can't if they go

1390
00:46:27,040 --> 00:46:31,119
and can't tell you then

1391
00:46:29,040 --> 00:46:32,160
what's the point no i'm my one of my

1392
00:46:31,119 --> 00:46:33,599
players

1393
00:46:32,160 --> 00:46:35,760
he he comes to the table for a very

1394
00:46:33,599 --> 00:46:37,280
different reason okay so he's he he

1395
00:46:35,760 --> 00:46:38,800
comes to the table and literally it's

1396
00:46:37,280 --> 00:46:40,960
not last session session before we'll

1397
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,400
remote at the moment oh yeah we sat down

1398
00:46:40,960 --> 00:46:43,599
we're on discord we're settling in so

1399
00:46:42,400 --> 00:46:45,119
i'm like right is everyone ready to go

1400
00:46:43,599 --> 00:46:46,319
he's like oh can you hear me all right

1401
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:48,240
well yeah we can use it oh because i'm

1402
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:49,599
just going for a walk so i'm like out

1403
00:46:48,240 --> 00:46:50,800
about at the moment there's like traffic

1404
00:46:49,599 --> 00:46:53,680
coming by

1405
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,280
okay fine but i've learned to like live

1406
00:46:53,680 --> 00:46:58,720
with that i think you know what i have a

1407
00:46:55,280 --> 00:47:00,480
player exactly like that he is great um

1408
00:46:58,720 --> 00:47:02,640
i won't name robin as well but he is a

1409
00:47:00,480 --> 00:47:04,000
great player for two i still have him to

1410
00:47:02,640 --> 00:47:07,040
his day he plays the bard in my classic

1411
00:47:04,000 --> 00:47:09,839
start game uh yeah he is a he will be

1412
00:47:07,040 --> 00:47:11,359
downstairs i know he cares after we had

1413
00:47:09,839 --> 00:47:13,760
a bit of a we didn't really get along

1414
00:47:11,359 --> 00:47:15,839
that route but we're we'll love him now

1415
00:47:13,760 --> 00:47:16,800
and he'll be afk

1416
00:47:15,839 --> 00:47:17,839
and then he'll come back and he'll be

1417
00:47:16,800 --> 00:47:20,000
like oh i'm sorry i missed something

1418
00:47:17,839 --> 00:47:21,280
because i was uh cooking because uh the

1419
00:47:20,000 --> 00:47:22,160
americans in a different time zone and i

1420
00:47:21,280 --> 00:47:23,599
was like

1421
00:47:22,160 --> 00:47:25,119
but i know that he's listening because

1422
00:47:23,599 --> 00:47:27,200
he will literally tell me stuff and if

1423
00:47:25,119 --> 00:47:29,280
he doesn't and this is great even if he

1424
00:47:27,200 --> 00:47:31,760
doesn't listen what he does is that he

1425
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,359
messages me and he goes hey um can i

1426
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,720
have the recap can you tell me these

1427
00:47:33,359 --> 00:47:36,160
very because like because he had he

1428
00:47:34,720 --> 00:47:37,440
missed the backstory of an npc and he

1429
00:47:36,160 --> 00:47:38,640
really wanted to know his npc and he was

1430
00:47:37,440 --> 00:47:40,559
like can i please have this um

1431
00:47:38,640 --> 00:47:43,040
information pc and i was like happily

1432
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:44,400
like sure i can different players put in

1433
00:47:43,040 --> 00:47:45,680
different effort in different ways yes

1434
00:47:44,400 --> 00:47:46,800
for sure yeah

1435
00:47:45,680 --> 00:47:48,800
no like for example you've got different

1436
00:47:46,800 --> 00:47:50,079
arc of players note taker players even a

1437
00:47:48,800 --> 00:47:52,160
player talking about the game outside

1438
00:47:50,079 --> 00:47:54,079
the game is interesting to me uh when a

1439
00:47:52,160 --> 00:47:55,440
player comes up to me and is like

1440
00:47:54,079 --> 00:47:56,800
hey wouldn't it be cool if this happened

1441
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:59,680
i'm like yeah i can write that in for

1442
00:47:56,800 --> 00:48:01,680
you mm-hmm yeah so for him it got to a

1443
00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:04,319
very similar point where he was like not

1444
00:48:01,680 --> 00:48:06,960
knowing his spells his abilities yeah

1445
00:48:04,319 --> 00:48:06,960
you know we

1446
00:48:09,040 --> 00:48:12,480
there's the others as well so got to the

1447
00:48:10,319 --> 00:48:15,200
point where i was like

1448
00:48:12,480 --> 00:48:17,200
please learn at least a surface level

1449
00:48:15,200 --> 00:48:19,040
detail

1450
00:48:17,200 --> 00:48:21,359
and then it got to me where i said guys

1451
00:48:19,040 --> 00:48:23,200
new rules for the campaign you have uh

1452
00:48:21,359 --> 00:48:24,960
like three minutes per town if you can't

1453
00:48:23,200 --> 00:48:27,040
decide or can't tell me

1454
00:48:24,960 --> 00:48:29,920
you've got you're doing the action

1455
00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:31,839
yes i love it that's a dm thing isn't it

1456
00:48:29,920 --> 00:48:33,280
that's a dm layer rule quite possibly

1457
00:48:31,839 --> 00:48:34,559
i've picked up so many things over the

1458
00:48:33,280 --> 00:48:36,480
years yeah

1459
00:48:34,559 --> 00:48:38,000
um dml had some rules like that where he

1460
00:48:36,480 --> 00:48:40,079
was like i'm not if you take too much

1461
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:41,680
too much on your turn uh i will just uh

1462
00:48:40,079 --> 00:48:44,480
make you a dog action which is great

1463
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,839
because um dm is great i work for him

1464
00:48:44,480 --> 00:48:47,359
not well not work for him i make

1465
00:48:45,839 --> 00:48:48,720
homebrew stuff for him and then he puts

1466
00:48:47,359 --> 00:48:49,599
it in pdfs and credits me which is

1467
00:48:48,720 --> 00:48:52,800
lovely

1468
00:48:49,599 --> 00:48:54,240
amazing yeah i have i i got a new player

1469
00:48:52,800 --> 00:48:56,800
i say a new player i played it in the

1470
00:48:54,240 --> 00:48:58,240
custodial game for a bit and as a player

1471
00:48:56,800 --> 00:49:00,319
i don't mind people take time to take

1472
00:48:58,240 --> 00:49:03,920
those time on their turn um as you can

1473
00:49:00,319 --> 00:49:05,520
tell i'm very fast i even speak fast um

1474
00:49:03,920 --> 00:49:07,200
to some extent you'll probably have to i

1475
00:49:05,520 --> 00:49:09,359
when i record my own sessions i slow

1476
00:49:07,200 --> 00:49:10,480
down my audio because i wow i i can't

1477
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:11,760
hear myself

1478
00:49:10,480 --> 00:49:13,280
um

1479
00:49:11,760 --> 00:49:15,280
but yeah

1480
00:49:13,280 --> 00:49:16,559
as a player i would just leave the table

1481
00:49:15,280 --> 00:49:17,599
get the toilet probably turn and then

1482
00:49:16,559 --> 00:49:19,119
come back and then he'd still be on his

1483
00:49:17,599 --> 00:49:21,359
turn i'd be like and then i tell him the

1484
00:49:19,119 --> 00:49:22,880
rules because he's playing a monk i hope

1485
00:49:21,359 --> 00:49:25,920
he doesn't he doesn't listen podcast so

1486
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,599
it's fun um he's great i love him um but

1487
00:49:25,920 --> 00:49:28,800
we had this problem he started we played

1488
00:49:27,599 --> 00:49:32,079
the first session of our homebrew

1489
00:49:28,800 --> 00:49:34,800
campaign very very homebrew and he was a

1490
00:49:32,079 --> 00:49:38,160
he's a cleric and my friend is also

1491
00:49:34,800 --> 00:49:39,119
she's a pilot for ages and he

1492
00:49:38,160 --> 00:49:40,480
i on

1493
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:42,000
playing new characters so i let people

1494
00:49:40,480 --> 00:49:43,680
take a bit more time on their turn but

1495
00:49:42,000 --> 00:49:46,240
when it got to a point when when it got

1496
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:48,400
to a point when i was we were in his uh

1497
00:49:46,240 --> 00:49:49,760
on like his turn uh for like the tenth

1498
00:49:48,400 --> 00:49:51,680
time and he was taking the same amount

1499
00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,040
of time yeah i said hey ho we need to

1500
00:49:51,680 --> 00:49:56,000
speed this up because i know you know

1501
00:49:53,040 --> 00:49:58,160
what to do he has a problem where he

1502
00:49:56,000 --> 00:50:00,240
i don't know if just it's a it's just a

1503
00:49:58,160 --> 00:50:01,920
a him problem as well but i don't think

1504
00:50:00,240 --> 00:50:03,440
i get this as a player a player feels

1505
00:50:01,920 --> 00:50:05,280
like hey he feels like he needs to do

1506
00:50:03,440 --> 00:50:07,359
the coolest thing on his turn yeah or

1507
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,960
his turn doesn't matter

1508
00:50:07,359 --> 00:50:10,720
just cause i can trip like it's fine

1509
00:50:08,960 --> 00:50:13,280
yeah it's either the coolest thing or

1510
00:50:10,720 --> 00:50:14,480
like mathematically the best thing to do

1511
00:50:13,280 --> 00:50:16,880
on this term

1512
00:50:14,480 --> 00:50:18,400
i can't i mean i'm a i'm a very quick

1513
00:50:16,880 --> 00:50:20,319
quick person quick player if i don't

1514
00:50:18,400 --> 00:50:21,920
know what's doing my turn i hopefully i

1515
00:50:20,319 --> 00:50:23,520
have a cam trip if i have a hand trip i

1516
00:50:21,920 --> 00:50:24,800
have movement i have the dash action

1517
00:50:23,520 --> 00:50:26,079
yeah yeah jack

1518
00:50:24,800 --> 00:50:27,920
there's so much stuff you can do in your

1519
00:50:26,079 --> 00:50:30,480
turn that isn't just attacking things

1520
00:50:27,920 --> 00:50:32,720
and uh i like it's funny me saying that

1521
00:50:30,480 --> 00:50:34,720
because i just i i used to i was playing

1522
00:50:32,720 --> 00:50:37,359
a paladin for three years and uh i would

1523
00:50:34,720 --> 00:50:39,280
just go in and attack things um but when

1524
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:43,200
i played um i switched over from my

1525
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:44,240
paladin to my uh arcane trickster

1526
00:50:43,200 --> 00:50:46,240
rogue

1527
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:47,839
and that's a whole thing that's a whole

1528
00:50:46,240 --> 00:50:50,160
campaign you could have a whole episode

1529
00:50:47,839 --> 00:50:52,400
dedicated to that campaign yeah um if i

1530
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:53,839
ever retell it properly um and matt

1531
00:50:52,400 --> 00:50:55,839
doesn't scold me for getting details

1532
00:50:53,839 --> 00:50:58,079
wrong but um

1533
00:50:55,839 --> 00:50:59,680
yeah when i switch over to her i lost a

1534
00:50:58,079 --> 00:51:02,480
lot of my parent abilities so i had to

1535
00:50:59,680 --> 00:51:04,240
learn a new yes i basically died every

1536
00:51:02,480 --> 00:51:05,680
once they died i ran into combat and

1537
00:51:04,240 --> 00:51:08,880
dropped to zero every time because i'm

1538
00:51:05,680 --> 00:51:10,720
playing a rogue wizard squishy yes and i

1539
00:51:08,880 --> 00:51:12,079
wasn't used to it and even one of my

1540
00:51:10,720 --> 00:51:13,440
friends was like you should stop doing

1541
00:51:12,079 --> 00:51:15,280
that you're not playing that character

1542
00:51:13,440 --> 00:51:17,520
anymore you're playing a rogue wizard i

1543
00:51:15,280 --> 00:51:18,400
was like i just want to hit things yeah

1544
00:51:17,520 --> 00:51:20,640
no

1545
00:51:18,400 --> 00:51:22,800
you've swung the pendulum completely in

1546
00:51:20,640 --> 00:51:24,319
the direction oh it's fine i'm

1547
00:51:22,800 --> 00:51:25,680
a different character's gone now she's

1548
00:51:24,319 --> 00:51:28,240
somewhere in the world and i've got my

1549
00:51:25,680 --> 00:51:29,599
paladin back so that's lovely um but

1550
00:51:28,240 --> 00:51:30,720
yeah uh

1551
00:51:29,599 --> 00:51:32,480
i don't know why players feel the need

1552
00:51:30,720 --> 00:51:34,160
to be cool every combat sometimes you're

1553
00:51:32,480 --> 00:51:36,000
just fighting wolves and that's that's

1554
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,319
it yeah like i get it if you're fighting

1555
00:51:36,000 --> 00:51:40,160
a big baddie and you understand cool

1556
00:51:38,319 --> 00:51:42,240
but i i find you back to reading the

1557
00:51:40,160 --> 00:51:44,079
sheet thing if you read your sheet you

1558
00:51:42,240 --> 00:51:46,720
will you will find things in your sheet

1559
00:51:44,079 --> 00:51:47,599
yeah and hear from our players and you

1560
00:51:46,720 --> 00:51:50,720
will go

1561
00:51:47,599 --> 00:51:51,920
oh we could do this on our turns yeah if

1562
00:51:50,720 --> 00:51:53,760
i come up with this person because i

1563
00:51:51,920 --> 00:51:55,440
know they have this ability in game or

1564
00:51:53,760 --> 00:51:56,880
um you you will find things on your

1565
00:51:55,440 --> 00:51:58,800
sheet that work together if you just

1566
00:51:56,880 --> 00:52:00,400
read it yeah you build a repertoire with

1567
00:51:58,800 --> 00:52:02,160
yourself and the other players yeah you

1568
00:52:00,400 --> 00:52:03,680
build com that's how you build combos

1569
00:52:02,160 --> 00:52:05,520
per se didn't doesn't have a very good

1570
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:07,599
like combination system because

1571
00:52:05,520 --> 00:52:09,760
obviously initiative exists um but you

1572
00:52:07,599 --> 00:52:11,680
can build combos like that very well um

1573
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,440
with other players i mean

1574
00:52:11,680 --> 00:52:15,280
i mean to be fair no you can do that

1575
00:52:13,440 --> 00:52:17,200
because the ready action exists and i

1576
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:18,640
know people call it hold action but i

1577
00:52:17,200 --> 00:52:20,079
like i like ready more i think i'm going

1578
00:52:18,640 --> 00:52:21,680
to start using videos that's what it's

1579
00:52:20,079 --> 00:52:23,040
in the book that's why it's there like

1580
00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,119
you know it's like oh when someone does

1581
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:27,119
this i just do this and yeah it's just

1582
00:52:25,119 --> 00:52:28,960
it's also just a case of you just do it

1583
00:52:27,119 --> 00:52:30,240
as well which is great

1584
00:52:28,960 --> 00:52:33,040
i love the ready action i feel like it

1585
00:52:30,240 --> 00:52:34,319
should be used more in combat probably

1586
00:52:33,040 --> 00:52:36,319
i think it comes back that problem that

1587
00:52:34,319 --> 00:52:38,559
you said like the pressure it's my turn

1588
00:52:36,319 --> 00:52:40,160
i have to perform otherwise i've wasted

1589
00:52:38,559 --> 00:52:42,319
a turn yeah wasted

1590
00:52:40,160 --> 00:52:44,079
but my very common phrase in my group is

1591
00:52:42,319 --> 00:52:46,319
damage is damage doesn't matter if it's

1592
00:52:44,079 --> 00:52:47,680
one or two one time i played i say one

1593
00:52:46,319 --> 00:52:49,680
time it's just issue two weeks ago one

1594
00:52:47,680 --> 00:52:52,720
time i rolled improvised damage for a

1595
00:52:49,680 --> 00:52:55,280
window i rolled max damage so my one of

1596
00:52:52,720 --> 00:52:56,640
my players took 12 damage from a window

1597
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:58,960
um

1598
00:52:56,640 --> 00:53:00,559
and they still still two weeks ago they

1599
00:52:58,960 --> 00:53:02,319
still talk about it even though that

1600
00:53:00,559 --> 00:53:05,200
player has also been suffocated by an

1601
00:53:02,319 --> 00:53:07,440
npc has been dragged around by a 17 year

1602
00:53:05,200 --> 00:53:09,440
old vampire they will just

1603
00:53:07,440 --> 00:53:10,640
it's because damage means a lot in dnd

1604
00:53:09,440 --> 00:53:12,319
but it really doesn't when you're

1605
00:53:10,640 --> 00:53:16,000
playing a six-person party and everyone

1606
00:53:12,319 --> 00:53:18,720
has healing um oh okay i i

1607
00:53:16,000 --> 00:53:20,240
it's an artificer you know a cleric like

1608
00:53:18,720 --> 00:53:22,720
yeah you have you have healing i had a

1609
00:53:20,240 --> 00:53:22,720
paladin

1610
00:53:23,040 --> 00:53:28,240
yeah but for my guys six players again

1611
00:53:26,240 --> 00:53:31,119
and we are hot off the presses this is

1612
00:53:28,240 --> 00:53:33,920
as of last night i had my first player

1613
00:53:31,119 --> 00:53:36,720
character die oh first one first one

1614
00:53:33,920 --> 00:53:38,960
after two and a half years 60 sessions

1615
00:53:36,720 --> 00:53:39,760
first one first one die

1616
00:53:38,960 --> 00:53:42,640
i

1617
00:53:39,760 --> 00:53:45,280
had people die in one shots i've had

1618
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:48,319
people get really close to death in my

1619
00:53:45,280 --> 00:53:50,960
games i don't think anyone's died yeah

1620
00:53:48,319 --> 00:53:52,640
uh well cursed

1621
00:53:50,960 --> 00:53:54,000
and also the next session of uh thing

1622
00:53:52,640 --> 00:53:55,599
i'm running next week but we'll get to

1623
00:53:54,000 --> 00:53:56,559
that when we get to that um where they

1624
00:53:55,599 --> 00:53:57,839
might

1625
00:53:56,559 --> 00:53:58,960
i'm planning

1626
00:53:57,839 --> 00:54:00,319
i was they'll know this because i'll

1627
00:53:58,960 --> 00:54:03,440
probably do it definitely i'm planning

1628
00:54:00,319 --> 00:54:05,760
to tpk my party on purpose okay um so

1629
00:54:03,440 --> 00:54:08,000
they're all gonna die but not really

1630
00:54:05,760 --> 00:54:09,200
because they they rely heavily on one of

1631
00:54:08,000 --> 00:54:11,200
the characters in the party so i'm

1632
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:13,119
planning on downing him in the combat

1633
00:54:11,200 --> 00:54:15,280
yeah and then watching the other two go

1634
00:54:13,119 --> 00:54:17,119
uh oh our fighters screw yeah because

1635
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:19,680
it's an eyes of druid and uh an

1636
00:54:17,119 --> 00:54:20,960
artificer yeah and they rely a lot a lot

1637
00:54:19,680 --> 00:54:22,800
on that character in terms of like

1638
00:54:20,960 --> 00:54:25,040
emotionally and also

1639
00:54:22,800 --> 00:54:26,480
combat wise so if he's gone

1640
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:28,240
they're just lost yeah yeah and i plan

1641
00:54:26,480 --> 00:54:30,240
to tp i generally plan to drop them all

1642
00:54:28,240 --> 00:54:31,760
to zero and then be like okay next

1643
00:54:30,240 --> 00:54:32,720
session and then they come back and then

1644
00:54:31,760 --> 00:54:34,480
they're still the player characters

1645
00:54:32,720 --> 00:54:36,160
because there's a whole something else

1646
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:37,520
in that game and yeah yeah it's fun

1647
00:54:36,160 --> 00:54:40,079
that's the best way i mean that's a

1648
00:54:37,520 --> 00:54:41,119
classic get out a full tpk it's like

1649
00:54:40,079 --> 00:54:42,400
they're prisoners or something they get

1650
00:54:41,119 --> 00:54:43,839
taken somewhere or something yeah yeah

1651
00:54:42,400 --> 00:54:44,960
they're gonna get taken somewhere but i

1652
00:54:43,839 --> 00:54:45,839
plan to drop them all to zero just to

1653
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:47,760
scare them

1654
00:54:45,839 --> 00:54:49,520
the cleric that unfortunately died last

1655
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:50,640
night it was of course of course it was

1656
00:54:49,520 --> 00:54:52,799
a cleric

1657
00:54:50,640 --> 00:54:54,559
people

1658
00:54:52,799 --> 00:54:56,960
he literally built himself to be like

1659
00:54:54,559 --> 00:54:58,720
not unkillable but like i wouldn't be

1660
00:54:56,960 --> 00:55:01,040
the last bastion so he had like a ring

1661
00:54:58,720 --> 00:55:02,160
of regeneration no periaptic wound

1662
00:55:01,040 --> 00:55:04,160
closure

1663
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,160
uh and like death domain so that he had

1664
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:07,680
like a death ward like a whole death

1665
00:55:06,160 --> 00:55:09,359
ward

1666
00:55:07,680 --> 00:55:11,200
stop him dying and to be like even if

1667
00:55:09,359 --> 00:55:13,280
everyone goes down to zero in four hours

1668
00:55:11,200 --> 00:55:14,960
i'll just stand back up like fine they

1669
00:55:13,280 --> 00:55:16,720
could just kill him

1670
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:18,480
oh my god but

1671
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:20,640
uh they were fighting

1672
00:55:18,480 --> 00:55:22,559
gibbering mouthers

1673
00:55:20,640 --> 00:55:24,319
[Music]

1674
00:55:22,559 --> 00:55:26,319
and also

1675
00:55:24,319 --> 00:55:29,040
this is why i'm telling this story no

1676
00:55:26,319 --> 00:55:31,680
strategy no teamwork no reading actions

1677
00:55:29,040 --> 00:55:33,920
a little bit friendly fire in

1678
00:55:31,680 --> 00:55:36,319
fireball that's not good and also he has

1679
00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:37,119
a cursed weapon of vengeance so when he

1680
00:55:36,319 --> 00:55:39,440
knows

1681
00:55:37,119 --> 00:55:41,200
when he gets hurt he has to hit

1682
00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:43,200
something to kill that yeah i'm aware so

1683
00:55:41,200 --> 00:55:45,359
he's like can i run back and heal myself

1684
00:55:43,200 --> 00:55:47,440
i'm like no you just wanna you just want

1685
00:55:45,359 --> 00:55:49,599
that thing to die

1686
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:51,359
so he got a vampiric touch out which

1687
00:55:49,599 --> 00:55:52,559
gave him another turn so i was like

1688
00:55:51,359 --> 00:55:54,400
still doing damage so i'll allow

1689
00:55:52,559 --> 00:55:56,000
vampiric touch because it still does

1690
00:55:54,400 --> 00:55:57,200
damage to the creature but you heal

1691
00:55:56,000 --> 00:55:59,200
yourself

1692
00:55:57,200 --> 00:56:00,880
still died no one else save him on the

1693
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:03,680
floor two different mouthers two let's

1694
00:56:00,880 --> 00:56:06,400
say to death saves gets consumed gone i

1695
00:56:03,680 --> 00:56:09,599
have a story um i love stories are you

1696
00:56:06,400 --> 00:56:12,720
aware of uh d and the infamous uh name

1697
00:56:09,599 --> 00:56:14,240
wechner oh yes yeah hand eye and other

1698
00:56:12,720 --> 00:56:16,480
appendages you know the bayesian

1699
00:56:14,240 --> 00:56:17,680
character i was talking about she yeah

1700
00:56:16,480 --> 00:56:19,760
she currently

1701
00:56:17,680 --> 00:56:21,440
owns the hand of like no she left the

1702
00:56:19,760 --> 00:56:23,200
party though because

1703
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:26,000
it was a hope that's

1704
00:56:23,200 --> 00:56:27,920
mortal weapons great campaign such a

1705
00:56:26,000 --> 00:56:30,480
good such a great campaign uh this is

1706
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:32,240
one where i switched my in to my thingy

1707
00:56:30,480 --> 00:56:33,440
and then back because my character left

1708
00:56:32,240 --> 00:56:34,880
and then my card and came back and then

1709
00:56:33,440 --> 00:56:36,960
there was a whole thing my pardon was

1710
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:38,319
kidnapped by wekner in a constant dream

1711
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:41,440
state where she was experiencing

1712
00:56:38,319 --> 00:56:43,280
nightmares uh to fuel the the hatred of

1713
00:56:41,440 --> 00:56:44,799
a deva that's like some black mirror

1714
00:56:43,280 --> 00:56:47,359
stuff oh

1715
00:56:44,799 --> 00:56:49,280
more weapons is is painful i can i can

1716
00:56:47,359 --> 00:56:51,599
count probably on 10 hands how many

1717
00:56:49,280 --> 00:56:53,760
times i've tried in a session um

1718
00:56:51,599 --> 00:56:56,319
but you know if i ever write a campaign

1719
00:56:53,760 --> 00:56:58,480
diary for it we'll see how long it is

1720
00:56:56,319 --> 00:57:01,040
but basically what happened was vector

1721
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:03,760
cast finger of death or powered kill

1722
00:57:01,040 --> 00:57:05,839
yeah um and my um

1723
00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:07,280
my account spell i i had uh i only had a

1724
00:57:05,839 --> 00:57:09,440
three third of the spell slots and i was

1725
00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,440
holding one just for counter spell

1726
00:57:09,440 --> 00:57:13,359
classic um and i counted i bought a

1727
00:57:11,440 --> 00:57:14,960
nineteen and counter-spelled him yeah

1728
00:57:13,359 --> 00:57:16,960
counterspelled him

1729
00:57:14,960 --> 00:57:19,359
oh yeah the other player she's got a

1730
00:57:16,960 --> 00:57:20,720
sort of cast and she was a shadow monk

1731
00:57:19,359 --> 00:57:22,400
and uh she had killed better for the

1732
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:25,119
raven queen a whole thing

1733
00:57:22,400 --> 00:57:26,559
and yeah uh after the session we split

1734
00:57:25,119 --> 00:57:28,079
this this big massive fight into two

1735
00:57:26,559 --> 00:57:29,359
sessions after session she was like you

1736
00:57:28,079 --> 00:57:30,720
didn't have to counter spell that and i

1737
00:57:29,359 --> 00:57:31,760
was like i guarantee you next session

1738
00:57:30,720 --> 00:57:33,839
he's going to use the same one of the

1739
00:57:31,760 --> 00:57:35,920
same spells again guess what he did and

1740
00:57:33,839 --> 00:57:38,720
she had she still had death ward up so

1741
00:57:35,920 --> 00:57:40,319
she she dropped to zero yeah got back up

1742
00:57:38,720 --> 00:57:42,160
uh i think i healed her as my paladin

1743
00:57:40,319 --> 00:57:44,079
because i swapped back and she was like

1744
00:57:42,160 --> 00:57:46,720
i know and i remember because i'm a very

1745
00:57:44,079 --> 00:57:48,559
petty player um

1746
00:57:46,720 --> 00:57:49,839
honest of you yeah i'm a very petty

1747
00:57:48,559 --> 00:57:50,880
player in terms of like a player's like

1748
00:57:49,839 --> 00:57:53,119
that's not going to happen and then i'm

1749
00:57:50,880 --> 00:57:56,400
like it definitely is yeah i also love i

1750
00:57:53,119 --> 00:57:58,559
i love uh saying i told you so um i

1751
00:57:56,400 --> 00:57:59,839
think i theorize stuff really way back

1752
00:57:58,559 --> 00:58:01,200
when it happens i'm like what if this is

1753
00:57:59,839 --> 00:58:02,720
this and then it gets to it and i go i

1754
00:58:01,200 --> 00:58:04,640
told you so and i do it

1755
00:58:02,720 --> 00:58:07,119
especially with dm especially with that

1756
00:58:04,640 --> 00:58:09,520
dm uh i always go i told you this is

1757
00:58:07,119 --> 00:58:11,280
going to happen everyone um but yeah i

1758
00:58:09,520 --> 00:58:12,319
she was like she was like maybe we

1759
00:58:11,280 --> 00:58:13,839
didn't know that i was like yeah of

1760
00:58:12,319 --> 00:58:15,119
course we didn't counsel like yeah of

1761
00:58:13,839 --> 00:58:16,240
course we needed the counter spell last

1762
00:58:15,119 --> 00:58:17,520
session because otherwise he was you

1763
00:58:16,240 --> 00:58:18,960
were gonna you would she never just died

1764
00:58:17,520 --> 00:58:20,000
there yeah and she's the only one who

1765
00:58:18,960 --> 00:58:21,359
could have killed vector in our party

1766
00:58:20,000 --> 00:58:22,960
because she had the sort of casting or

1767
00:58:21,359 --> 00:58:24,319
something well it wasn't even the real

1768
00:58:22,960 --> 00:58:26,160
sort of cass

1769
00:58:24,319 --> 00:58:28,720
that's also a whole thing that's a whole

1770
00:58:26,160 --> 00:58:29,839
another story that campaign

1771
00:58:28,720 --> 00:58:31,680
crazy

1772
00:58:29,839 --> 00:58:33,760
will will

1773
00:58:31,680 --> 00:58:36,720
crazy stuff

1774
00:58:33,760 --> 00:58:38,640
you've had a lifetimes of experience in

1775
00:58:36,720 --> 00:58:41,599
apparently a very short space of time

1776
00:58:38,640 --> 00:58:44,240
yes three years younger player by any

1777
00:58:41,599 --> 00:58:46,160
anyone's standard but yeah

1778
00:58:44,240 --> 00:58:47,920
just a a lot of fun i mean the indie is

1779
00:58:46,160 --> 00:58:49,680
always great because people always talk

1780
00:58:47,920 --> 00:58:51,359
about like oh i played d for the

1781
00:58:49,680 --> 00:58:53,839
escapism and stuff like that and i

1782
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:56,799
understand that but i i play the indie

1783
00:58:53,839 --> 00:58:58,880
um i hate saying for the story um i play

1784
00:58:56,799 --> 00:59:00,960
d because i i like knowing what goes

1785
00:58:58,880 --> 00:59:03,119
through people's heads in certain

1786
00:59:00,960 --> 00:59:04,559
situations my favorite thing is dm is

1787
00:59:03,119 --> 00:59:06,880
just presenting a scenario and then

1788
00:59:04,559 --> 00:59:08,960
watching how a player reacts to it and

1789
00:59:06,880 --> 00:59:11,119
then i i love explaining my own

1790
00:59:08,960 --> 00:59:13,520
interpretation of the scenario um

1791
00:59:11,119 --> 00:59:15,280
especially as a player just to be like

1792
00:59:13,520 --> 00:59:17,520
this is what i would have done as a

1793
00:59:15,280 --> 00:59:18,720
player if i was you guys and for example

1794
00:59:17,520 --> 00:59:20,079
even in casual style my players are

1795
00:59:18,720 --> 00:59:22,000
doing they're doing stuff i never

1796
00:59:20,079 --> 00:59:23,040
thought of doing as a dm um i just like

1797
00:59:22,000 --> 00:59:24,960
seeing the

1798
00:59:23,040 --> 00:59:26,319
i also like the control of course but uh

1799
00:59:24,960 --> 00:59:28,240
i like seeing don't tell everyone the

1800
00:59:26,319 --> 00:59:29,040
secrets to be there

1801
00:59:28,240 --> 00:59:30,319
well

1802
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,680
because i was i was talking to my friend

1803
00:59:30,319 --> 00:59:35,119
about this she was like would you would

1804
00:59:31,680 --> 00:59:36,400
you stop dming um you know if you could

1805
00:59:35,119 --> 00:59:38,079
would you stop like playing or dm'ing

1806
00:59:36,400 --> 00:59:39,599
and i said i entirely stopped playing

1807
00:59:38,079 --> 00:59:42,160
i'd entirely stop playing i love telling

1808
00:59:39,599 --> 00:59:44,240
my character's stories but i also love

1809
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:46,400
telling your characters stories yeah i

1810
00:59:44,240 --> 00:59:47,760
love watching what you guys do

1811
00:59:46,400 --> 00:59:50,720
and also you can still tell the stories

1812
00:59:47,760 --> 00:59:52,799
of your characters in a dm context dmpcs

1813
00:59:50,720 --> 00:59:55,520
exist um even if they're not with the

1814
00:59:52,799 --> 00:59:57,280
party you know i have i have a lot of

1815
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:59,599
characters that my friends know that i

1816
00:59:57,280 --> 01:00:01,440
absolutely adore and i put them in every

1817
00:59:59,599 --> 01:00:04,640
campaign even if they're not supposed to

1818
01:00:01,440 --> 01:00:07,440
be there yeah you know uh i'm running a

1819
01:00:04,640 --> 01:00:09,520
nau version of uh my world at the moment

1820
01:00:07,440 --> 01:00:11,440
and i was talking about my favorite npc

1821
01:00:09,520 --> 01:00:13,760
from the first campaign uh he is in it

1822
01:00:11,440 --> 01:00:15,119
and he's the king of uh a big area and

1823
01:00:13,760 --> 01:00:16,240
all his

1824
01:00:15,119 --> 01:00:18,240
it's kind of he's kind of a drunk

1825
01:00:16,240 --> 01:00:21,280
character he's a very dumb barbarian

1826
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:23,040
uh he died at one point um

1827
01:00:21,280 --> 01:00:24,400
in a well yeah in a desert and he died

1828
01:00:23,040 --> 01:00:26,480
at one point um and the only thing that

1829
01:00:24,400 --> 01:00:28,160
saved him was a strength of that ability

1830
01:00:26,480 --> 01:00:29,200
yeah um i was rolling death stage for

1831
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:30,480
him and the players were like we just

1832
01:00:29,200 --> 01:00:31,760
come up and they could hear me rolling

1833
01:00:30,480 --> 01:00:33,760
and they were like me go and get him and

1834
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,119
i rolled as i was rolling these one of

1835
01:00:33,760 --> 01:00:37,280
the places i healed him and i rolled in

1836
01:00:35,119 --> 01:00:38,400
that one and he would have just died he

1837
01:00:37,280 --> 01:00:39,200
would have just died there and i would

1838
01:00:38,400 --> 01:00:42,720
have

1839
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:45,599
been upset about it yeah um but

1840
01:00:42,720 --> 01:00:48,880
dumb barbarian uh who was married to the

1841
01:00:45,599 --> 01:00:51,040
queen of the like the [ __ ] continent um

1842
01:00:48,880 --> 01:00:53,680
he was great and he's in the in the

1843
01:00:51,040 --> 01:00:55,040
other campaign as like the king um and

1844
01:00:53,680 --> 01:00:56,640
his children are all really famous

1845
01:00:55,040 --> 01:00:57,920
adventurers

1846
01:00:56,640 --> 01:00:59,359
i feel like having a self-insert

1847
01:00:57,920 --> 01:01:02,079
character's dm

1848
01:00:59,359 --> 01:01:04,000
having a reoccurring character is great

1849
01:01:02,079 --> 01:01:05,839
when i hit more than one campaign that

1850
01:01:04,000 --> 01:01:07,200
lasts shorter than two years then i have

1851
01:01:05,839 --> 01:01:09,040
you gotta remember you've gotta get that

1852
01:01:07,200 --> 01:01:11,200
one npc the players love and just make

1853
01:01:09,040 --> 01:01:12,640
them reoccurring um

1854
01:01:11,200 --> 01:01:15,119
i think i have

1855
01:01:12,640 --> 01:01:16,960
him um there's this uh fey woman who's

1856
01:01:15,119 --> 01:01:18,160
basically she's become the fey world now

1857
01:01:16,960 --> 01:01:20,480
because of the whole fable was gonna go

1858
01:01:18,160 --> 01:01:22,960
collapse and she became the fey world um

1859
01:01:20,480 --> 01:01:25,520
she was a great npc um shame she seems

1860
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:27,359
she's now like an archway uh and then

1861
01:01:25,520 --> 01:01:30,079
another character who is the villain of

1862
01:01:27,359 --> 01:01:32,079
my second campaign um

1863
01:01:30,079 --> 01:01:34,240
uh he was a six-year-old warlock in the

1864
01:01:32,079 --> 01:01:35,280
first campaign six-year-old warlock wow

1865
01:01:34,240 --> 01:01:36,960
okay

1866
01:01:35,280 --> 01:01:40,160
and then the second campaign uh they're

1867
01:01:36,960 --> 01:01:42,000
going to meet him next session he is a

1868
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:43,920
basically he went through a few

1869
01:01:42,000 --> 01:01:46,880
realities and basically saw the

1870
01:01:43,920 --> 01:01:49,599
possibilities of the world basically

1871
01:01:46,880 --> 01:01:51,599
going completely hey well yeah and

1872
01:01:49,599 --> 01:01:54,559
the possibilities of him um in the other

1873
01:01:51,599 --> 01:01:55,520
realities and he was like wow this world

1874
01:01:54,559 --> 01:01:56,559
because of all the whole reality

1875
01:01:55,520 --> 01:01:58,480
fractures thing that happened at the end

1876
01:01:56,559 --> 01:02:00,720
of campaign one uh he was like wow this

1877
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,720
world is really uh destroyed i need to

1878
01:02:00,720 --> 01:02:05,599
destroy every single reality and just

1879
01:02:02,720 --> 01:02:07,599
have one okay and because of that he's

1880
01:02:05,599 --> 01:02:09,039
not he's not six anymore by the way yeah

1881
01:02:07,599 --> 01:02:11,280
in perspective a six-year-old didn't cut

1882
01:02:09,039 --> 01:02:13,520
some aspirations he's an aspiration yeah

1883
01:02:11,280 --> 01:02:14,960
he's basically going around destroying

1884
01:02:13,520 --> 01:02:16,640
realities

1885
01:02:14,960 --> 01:02:18,559
it's also a great game because those

1886
01:02:16,640 --> 01:02:20,160
three players they're playing uh well

1887
01:02:18,559 --> 01:02:21,760
one of them is a blind druid the other

1888
01:02:20,160 --> 01:02:23,359
one is basically captain america i mean

1889
01:02:21,760 --> 01:02:25,520
he only fights for shield and the other

1890
01:02:23,359 --> 01:02:26,720
one is basically tony stark okay um so

1891
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:28,960
it's a very like

1892
01:02:26,720 --> 01:02:30,160
infinity war like oh this character

1893
01:02:28,960 --> 01:02:32,079
trying to destroy the world sort of

1894
01:02:30,160 --> 01:02:33,680
thing yeah um but yeah he's an older

1895
01:02:32,079 --> 01:02:35,680
character he's like he's traveling

1896
01:02:33,680 --> 01:02:38,480
around he's 50 in this world and he's

1897
01:02:35,680 --> 01:02:39,839
like very apathetic and just like oh you

1898
01:02:38,480 --> 01:02:41,839
know

1899
01:02:39,839 --> 01:02:43,520
you guys don't matter because i i've

1900
01:02:41,839 --> 01:02:45,039
seen so many of your kind before you

1901
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,400
know and i've destroyed them much much

1902
01:02:45,039 --> 01:02:48,720
better yeah

1903
01:02:46,400 --> 01:02:51,680
how a character goes from innocent

1904
01:02:48,720 --> 01:02:53,680
lovely pure literally called pure to

1905
01:02:51,680 --> 01:02:56,000
nihilistic reality destroyer i don't

1906
01:02:53,680 --> 01:02:59,200
know um but uh it's fun it's a very

1907
01:02:56,000 --> 01:03:01,119
interesting story yeah like

1908
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,960
if the villain isn't doing some cosmic

1909
01:03:01,119 --> 01:03:06,480
level stuff i don't bother writing them

1910
01:03:02,960 --> 01:03:08,799
yeah i love a cosmic threat villain yeah

1911
01:03:06,480 --> 01:03:10,000
campaign yeah campaign for there's a

1912
01:03:08,799 --> 01:03:12,400
there's a villain who's not a cosmic

1913
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:14,400
friend she's just a person yeah um but

1914
01:03:12,400 --> 01:03:17,359
she's pretty dangerous but go ahead

1915
01:03:14,400 --> 01:03:18,640
sorry am i my the bad evil guy and this

1916
01:03:17,359 --> 01:03:20,480
is spoilers from my campaign if my

1917
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:23,119
players will eventually listen to this

1918
01:03:20,480 --> 01:03:24,720
is i've set up to do uh

1919
01:03:23,119 --> 01:03:25,920
i took my inspiration from neo genesis

1920
01:03:24,720 --> 01:03:29,760
evangelion

1921
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:31,599
oh so his goal is that he got spurned

1922
01:03:29,760 --> 01:03:34,960
when he was like mortal for various

1923
01:03:31,599 --> 01:03:37,200
reasons yes hated like the hierarchy all

1924
01:03:34,960 --> 01:03:39,119
that kind of stuff like rules god said

1925
01:03:37,200 --> 01:03:41,359
like hate gods because they're just

1926
01:03:39,119 --> 01:03:43,119
different to the suffering of more yeah

1927
01:03:41,359 --> 01:03:44,799
the little thing where players are like

1928
01:03:43,119 --> 01:03:46,559
why didn't the gods do anything yeah

1929
01:03:44,799 --> 01:03:47,680
exactly so that's it he's like four

1930
01:03:46,559 --> 01:03:49,280
pound more power eventually became a

1931
01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:51,200
little bit anyway his end goal is

1932
01:03:49,280 --> 01:03:52,480
basically like well i know how to stop

1933
01:03:51,200 --> 01:03:54,240
everyone's suffering like everyone

1934
01:03:52,480 --> 01:03:55,760
suffers because the gods are useless i'm

1935
01:03:54,240 --> 01:03:57,520
just gonna turn everybody i'm just gonna

1936
01:03:55,760 --> 01:03:59,520
tear the fabric of reality and just turn

1937
01:03:57,520 --> 01:04:01,119
everyone into like the far realm we're

1938
01:03:59,520 --> 01:04:03,119
just going to lose our bodies to turn

1939
01:04:01,119 --> 01:04:04,240
into the consciousness of the universe

1940
01:04:03,119 --> 01:04:05,359
and then there's no suffering anymore

1941
01:04:04,240 --> 01:04:06,640
because everyone sounds like that

1942
01:04:05,359 --> 01:04:08,400
villain would be friends with a lot of

1943
01:04:06,640 --> 01:04:09,760
my villains

1944
01:04:08,400 --> 01:04:12,640
because you know there's no suffering

1945
01:04:09,760 --> 01:04:14,720
anymore we'll just exist as one glorious

1946
01:04:12,640 --> 01:04:17,119
abstract being and there's no pain

1947
01:04:14,720 --> 01:04:20,000
there's no suffering punishment anymore

1948
01:04:17,119 --> 01:04:21,440
so that's his goal that's crazy in his

1949
01:04:20,000 --> 01:04:22,559
head he's like you know it's like in

1950
01:04:21,440 --> 01:04:24,960
even gilliam when they all turn to

1951
01:04:22,559 --> 01:04:27,119
orange because like and then there's no

1952
01:04:24,960 --> 01:04:28,400
you know there's no suffering

1953
01:04:27,119 --> 01:04:29,520
hurt anymore because everybody shares

1954
01:04:28,400 --> 01:04:30,640
what he's playing so that's that's his

1955
01:04:29,520 --> 01:04:32,319
end goal

1956
01:04:30,640 --> 01:04:33,200
is to be like well no i'm you know

1957
01:04:32,319 --> 01:04:36,079
you've

1958
01:04:33,200 --> 01:04:37,680
and he's he's built his monologue like

1959
01:04:36,079 --> 01:04:39,359
oh i love it five years before it's ever

1960
01:04:37,680 --> 01:04:41,200
going to get delivered i love him i love

1961
01:04:39,359 --> 01:04:43,599
it the dm thing is very much being like

1962
01:04:41,200 --> 01:04:46,319
i've written this monologue but i can't

1963
01:04:43,599 --> 01:04:48,000
do it that i mean the the the big reveal

1964
01:04:46,319 --> 01:04:50,880
of our campaign just came in a few

1965
01:04:48,000 --> 01:04:52,720
sessions ago um because uh the dm had

1966
01:04:50,880 --> 01:04:54,640
written it when i joined the campaign

1967
01:04:52,720 --> 01:04:55,680
which i joined four or five sessions in

1968
01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,240
and then he wrote it the session that i

1969
01:04:55,680 --> 01:05:00,160
joined in yeah um

1970
01:04:58,240 --> 01:05:02,240
i love the cosmic threat villain yeah

1971
01:05:00,160 --> 01:05:03,599
that's great yeah so he's gonna his

1972
01:05:02,240 --> 01:05:04,400
monologue is like

1973
01:05:03,599 --> 01:05:06,079
he'll

1974
01:05:04,400 --> 01:05:08,240
reference each of the players if they

1975
01:05:06,079 --> 01:05:09,359
survive yes

1976
01:05:08,240 --> 01:05:11,280
i love a reference to each of the

1977
01:05:09,359 --> 01:05:12,799
players about you like you've done

1978
01:05:11,280 --> 01:05:14,559
abhorrent acts in your life you've

1979
01:05:12,799 --> 01:05:17,039
killed people like

1980
01:05:14,559 --> 01:05:18,240
that's on you like you you've you know

1981
01:05:17,039 --> 01:05:19,839
are you happy with those actions do you

1982
01:05:18,240 --> 01:05:22,160
feel yeah that you've done that probably

1983
01:05:19,839 --> 01:05:23,359
not let me take that pain away from you

1984
01:05:22,160 --> 01:05:24,640
let me i know a villain like that yeah

1985
01:05:23,359 --> 01:05:26,240
because

1986
01:05:24,640 --> 01:05:27,599
especially the villain of a campaign too

1987
01:05:26,240 --> 01:05:29,440
as well he

1988
01:05:27,599 --> 01:05:31,280
uh well he's he's kind of the main

1989
01:05:29,440 --> 01:05:32,480
villain but uh at the same time that

1990
01:05:31,280 --> 01:05:34,559
harrah's dude is also kind of the main

1991
01:05:32,480 --> 01:05:35,839
villain but that is a cosmic weird force

1992
01:05:34,559 --> 01:05:38,079
and he's an actual guy so he's kind of

1993
01:05:35,839 --> 01:05:40,480
the face of the villain that makes sense

1994
01:05:38,079 --> 01:05:42,000
if you ever told the villain um but he

1995
01:05:40,480 --> 01:05:44,480
um

1996
01:05:42,000 --> 01:05:46,160
he's just so i love a villain that's so

1997
01:05:44,480 --> 01:05:48,400
done um

1998
01:05:46,160 --> 01:05:49,440
even with uh custom straw as well uh

1999
01:05:48,400 --> 01:05:52,240
they've just found out the big thing

2000
01:05:49,440 --> 01:05:54,880
about strawd and um maestro has been

2001
01:05:52,240 --> 01:05:58,559
very confident very cocky very like um

2002
01:05:54,880 --> 01:06:01,039
arrogant very vulgar as well um

2003
01:05:58,559 --> 01:06:04,240
and i can't wait till they

2004
01:06:01,039 --> 01:06:05,680
say something to him and he snaps i i i

2005
01:06:04,240 --> 01:06:06,559
love a good i love a good showering at a

2006
01:06:05,680 --> 01:06:09,039
player

2007
01:06:06,559 --> 01:06:09,760
i'm not showing at them but yeah i love

2008
01:06:09,039 --> 01:06:11,839
yeah

2009
01:06:09,760 --> 01:06:13,119
i love the fear that comes with that

2010
01:06:11,839 --> 01:06:14,799
sounds really

2011
01:06:13,119 --> 01:06:17,599
give me the fear the fear that comes off

2012
01:06:14,799 --> 01:06:18,960
of like a player doing something wrong

2013
01:06:17,599 --> 01:06:20,559
especially in class astrad they're

2014
01:06:18,960 --> 01:06:22,160
really wide strad knows exactly what

2015
01:06:20,559 --> 01:06:25,599
they're doing at all times

2016
01:06:22,160 --> 01:06:27,119
which i always say he probably does but

2017
01:06:25,599 --> 01:06:29,359
at the same time i have a little private

2018
01:06:27,119 --> 01:06:30,960
chat on my discord just just my dm notes

2019
01:06:29,359 --> 01:06:32,480
and i write what strat knows they're

2020
01:06:30,960 --> 01:06:33,920
doing so after the session i go strong

2021
01:06:32,480 --> 01:06:35,760
knows that they did this dramas they did

2022
01:06:33,920 --> 01:06:37,280
this yeah um and i do that every time

2023
01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:40,880
they they play the game and i do it for

2024
01:06:37,280 --> 01:06:40,880
my villains as well it's just

2025
01:06:41,839 --> 01:06:45,280
player paranoia is great about stuff as

2026
01:06:43,920 --> 01:06:47,760
well because they'll just sit and be

2027
01:06:45,280 --> 01:06:49,839
like what if they'll kill one in pc and

2028
01:06:47,760 --> 01:06:51,280
like what if the whole module was ruined

2029
01:06:49,839 --> 01:06:53,359
and you're like

2030
01:06:51,280 --> 01:06:56,559
yeah whatever it was like some guy yeah

2031
01:06:53,359 --> 01:06:57,680
in a store some random rando yeah

2032
01:06:56,559 --> 01:06:58,720
well

2033
01:06:57,680 --> 01:07:00,319
well i

2034
01:06:58,720 --> 01:07:02,880
should probably i feel like i've stolen

2035
01:07:00,319 --> 01:07:05,119
you from your kodi m chair for

2036
01:07:02,880 --> 01:07:07,839
long enough i shall uh i'll let you get

2037
01:07:05,119 --> 01:07:10,400
back to it uh thank you ever so much for

2038
01:07:07,839 --> 01:07:12,160
sharing uh all your experiences yeah

2039
01:07:10,400 --> 01:07:13,599
yeah with the fast amount that i talk

2040
01:07:12,160 --> 01:07:14,799
you'll have a lot in there

2041
01:07:13,599 --> 01:07:16,640
it's great because there's a lot of data

2042
01:07:14,799 --> 01:07:18,400
in a very short space of time

2043
01:07:16,640 --> 01:07:22,000
it's very efficient

2044
01:07:18,400 --> 01:07:23,359
of speaking at light speeds um but yeah

2045
01:07:22,000 --> 01:07:24,960
i mean

2046
01:07:23,359 --> 01:07:27,280
i just i just love dnd podcast as well

2047
01:07:24,960 --> 01:07:28,400
because they're just so

2048
01:07:27,280 --> 01:07:29,520
there's such a different perspective you

2049
01:07:28,400 --> 01:07:30,480
can get from different people i've

2050
01:07:29,520 --> 01:07:31,599
listened to podcasts where i've

2051
01:07:30,480 --> 01:07:32,880
literally just agreed with everything

2052
01:07:31,599 --> 01:07:33,839
that a person has said and i've been

2053
01:07:32,880 --> 01:07:35,520
like oh at least they're like they're

2054
01:07:33,839 --> 01:07:37,440
saying their opinion out there as well i

2055
01:07:35,520 --> 01:07:38,640
would consider that a victory if you if

2056
01:07:37,440 --> 01:07:41,039
you have that thought with any of my

2057
01:07:38,640 --> 01:07:42,000
episodes i'm that's it i'm happy

2058
01:07:41,039 --> 01:07:43,440
the wrong about romance is very

2059
01:07:42,000 --> 01:07:45,839
interesting because obviously i i'm

2060
01:07:43,440 --> 01:07:46,720
moments in the character in a d game and

2061
01:07:45,839 --> 01:07:48,559
it's

2062
01:07:46,720 --> 01:07:50,559
so awkward

2063
01:07:48,559 --> 01:07:52,000
i just i had a session i decided i just

2064
01:07:50,559 --> 01:07:53,839
want to say this i had a session where

2065
01:07:52,000 --> 01:07:55,280
it was just me and the dm and he was

2066
01:07:53,839 --> 01:07:56,880
playing my character's boyfriend and it

2067
01:07:55,280 --> 01:07:59,599
was so

2068
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,200
awkward because it was me flirting with

2069
01:07:59,599 --> 01:08:03,680
the dm

2070
01:08:01,200 --> 01:08:05,200
it was weird it was just a sat there and

2071
01:08:03,680 --> 01:08:06,480
he doesn't really do a character voice

2072
01:08:05,200 --> 01:08:07,599
for this he's really good at characters

2073
01:08:06,480 --> 01:08:09,039
he just doesn't do a cad versus

2074
01:08:07,599 --> 01:08:10,240
character so it's just another wife of

2075
01:08:09,039 --> 01:08:11,680
my character so we're just sat there

2076
01:08:10,240 --> 01:08:13,760
like

2077
01:08:11,680 --> 01:08:15,920
so do you like flowers like stuff like

2078
01:08:13,760 --> 01:08:18,319
that like it's so how how about that

2079
01:08:15,920 --> 01:08:20,319
airplane food yeah like stuff like that

2080
01:08:18,319 --> 01:08:23,120
it's long walks on the beach like a

2081
01:08:20,319 --> 01:08:24,799
four-hour session as well just one on

2082
01:08:23,120 --> 01:08:26,560
wow yeah

2083
01:08:24,799 --> 01:08:28,159
wow yeah i should get up when i stopped

2084
01:08:26,560 --> 01:08:30,719
talking i never stopped yes thank you

2085
01:08:28,159 --> 01:08:32,000
for that plug to my previous episode

2086
01:08:30,719 --> 01:08:36,040
you're welcome

2087
01:08:32,000 --> 01:08:36,040
and thank you very much for your time

2088
01:08:41,359 --> 01:08:46,560
and i am joined by henry thank you for

2089
01:08:44,719 --> 01:08:47,839
joining me tonight uh can you tell us a

2090
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:52,159
little bit about yourself

2091
01:08:47,839 --> 01:08:54,799
so um i've been playing d probably for

2092
01:08:52,159 --> 01:08:58,719
two years now okay um i really got into

2093
01:08:54,799 --> 01:09:00,480
it um when my brother ran a one shot

2094
01:08:58,719 --> 01:09:02,480
and

2095
01:09:00,480 --> 01:09:04,400
and i've been a little bit hooked ever

2096
01:09:02,480 --> 01:09:07,120
since like it's an addiction i think

2097
01:09:04,400 --> 01:09:09,279
yeah and i've just started dming my own

2098
01:09:07,120 --> 01:09:10,239
campaign and which i did through geek

2099
01:09:09,279 --> 01:09:12,239
retreat

2100
01:09:10,239 --> 01:09:13,440
so yeah that's what we're doing tonight

2101
01:09:12,239 --> 01:09:15,520
um but

2102
01:09:13,440 --> 01:09:17,920
a weekly i play about four four

2103
01:09:15,520 --> 01:09:18,960
different campaigns yeah playing with

2104
01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:21,520
dming

2105
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:24,000
playing and then i dm

2106
01:09:21,520 --> 01:09:26,000
one of those four okay okay and you're

2107
01:09:24,000 --> 01:09:27,279
dealing tonight yeah i'm dming tonight

2108
01:09:26,000 --> 01:09:30,719
yeah okay how long has that campaign

2109
01:09:27,279 --> 01:09:33,040
been going um so this is our i wanna say

2110
01:09:30,719 --> 01:09:34,400
fourth week okay fifth week something

2111
01:09:33,040 --> 01:09:35,920
like that yeah

2112
01:09:34,400 --> 01:09:37,359
okay and how how are you finding that

2113
01:09:35,920 --> 01:09:38,880
and it's always been here because this

2114
01:09:37,359 --> 01:09:39,679
is something i want to dig into a little

2115
01:09:38,880 --> 01:09:42,480
bit so

2116
01:09:39,679 --> 01:09:44,719
all four of those been here no so the

2117
01:09:42,480 --> 01:09:47,040
campaign that i'm running um i started

2118
01:09:44,719 --> 01:09:50,000
that here i was actually bribed by

2119
01:09:47,040 --> 01:09:51,279
kieran with free food to start dming so

2120
01:09:50,000 --> 01:09:53,839
i was just like i guess that's what i

2121
01:09:51,279 --> 01:09:56,640
mean that's a good reason oh yeah

2122
01:09:53,839 --> 01:09:57,520
but my other groups um i

2123
01:09:56,640 --> 01:09:59,440
met

2124
01:09:57,520 --> 01:10:01,520
two of them throughout lockdown so we

2125
01:09:59,440 --> 01:10:03,280
had to do everything through like this

2126
01:10:01,520 --> 01:10:04,719
20.

2127
01:10:03,280 --> 01:10:07,280
and

2128
01:10:04,719 --> 01:10:10,960
my one group we've got people from like

2129
01:10:07,280 --> 01:10:13,679
all over the uk and our dm's in brussels

2130
01:10:10,960 --> 01:10:16,400
wow yeah and my other group i play with

2131
01:10:13,679 --> 01:10:17,920
half americans half ish people so is

2132
01:10:16,400 --> 01:10:20,239
that fun to schedule

2133
01:10:17,920 --> 01:10:21,679
it's awful we play every other saturday

2134
01:10:20,239 --> 01:10:23,440
at 9pm

2135
01:10:21,679 --> 01:10:24,480
british summertime

2136
01:10:23,440 --> 01:10:26,239
yeah

2137
01:10:24,480 --> 01:10:28,320
yeah it's hard going but it's really

2138
01:10:26,239 --> 01:10:31,280
really fun yeah the majority of my

2139
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:32,640
guests have been from the states both

2140
01:10:31,280 --> 01:10:34,400
the east coast and west coast and just

2141
01:10:32,640 --> 01:10:36,080
booking an hour and a half slot to chat

2142
01:10:34,400 --> 01:10:38,480
away with them it's been tricky enough

2143
01:10:36,080 --> 01:10:40,400
so i can only imagine how uh

2144
01:10:38,480 --> 01:10:41,920
fun it has been the

2145
01:10:40,400 --> 01:10:44,960
okay awesome so how many how many

2146
01:10:41,920 --> 01:10:46,960
sessions have you dm'd here then so all

2147
01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:48,880
five sessions with this group i have

2148
01:10:46,960 --> 01:10:51,600
dm'd here at geek retreat i met these

2149
01:10:48,880 --> 01:10:53,920
guys here actually okay and so i started

2150
01:10:51,600 --> 01:10:56,159
it off with like a session zero

2151
01:10:53,920 --> 01:10:58,159
to get some players in and gig retreat

2152
01:10:56,159 --> 01:10:59,920
like they had um a group of people a

2153
01:10:58,159 --> 01:11:02,400
list of people that wanted to join in

2154
01:10:59,920 --> 01:11:04,000
yeah i posted on the facebook group and

2155
01:11:02,400 --> 01:11:06,320
saying what sort of campaign i was

2156
01:11:04,000 --> 01:11:08,480
running and sort of the criteria for

2157
01:11:06,320 --> 01:11:10,239
that and to let geek retreat know they

2158
01:11:08,480 --> 01:11:12,239
wanted to join part of that

2159
01:11:10,239 --> 01:11:13,760
and then yeah i've had four people join

2160
01:11:12,239 --> 01:11:14,800
my campaign amazing yeah and how's it

2161
01:11:13,760 --> 01:11:17,199
going

2162
01:11:14,800 --> 01:11:19,120
i think it's going okay

2163
01:11:17,199 --> 01:11:20,640
well i did just ask everybody if they're

2164
01:11:19,120 --> 01:11:22,080
having fun and they all responded very

2165
01:11:20,640 --> 01:11:23,679
positively so it must be going you must

2166
01:11:22,080 --> 01:11:26,080
be doing something right yeah yeah i'm

2167
01:11:23,679 --> 01:11:27,760
hoping um i'm doing sort of like half

2168
01:11:26,080 --> 01:11:30,719
home brew huh

2169
01:11:27,760 --> 01:11:32,719
okay i'm the new van richton's guide wow

2170
01:11:30,719 --> 01:11:34,800
raven loft and with the dark debates

2171
01:11:32,719 --> 01:11:36,800
like i love everything gothic horror so

2172
01:11:34,800 --> 01:11:40,159
i'm well into that that's right up your

2173
01:11:36,800 --> 01:11:41,760
street there yeah absolutely and so yeah

2174
01:11:40,159 --> 01:11:43,760
we'll be doing this thing with the

2175
01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:45,040
carnival which is one of the darts yeah

2176
01:11:43,760 --> 01:11:46,080
one of the few i haven't read them all

2177
01:11:45,040 --> 01:11:48,320
but i read that one because that

2178
01:11:46,080 --> 01:11:50,159
interested me it's really good yeah yeah

2179
01:11:48,320 --> 01:11:51,760
really good travel it travels to like

2180
01:11:50,159 --> 01:11:54,400
the other ones right yeah yeah

2181
01:11:51,760 --> 01:11:56,320
absolutely so we started off in faerun

2182
01:11:54,400 --> 01:11:57,520
and that's where everybody met in the

2183
01:11:56,320 --> 01:11:58,960
tavern but it was meeting up the

2184
01:11:57,520 --> 01:12:00,560
carnival in the queue because we're

2185
01:11:58,960 --> 01:12:03,280
british yeah

2186
01:12:00,560 --> 01:12:05,520
amazing yeah so that's sort of how that

2187
01:12:03,280 --> 01:12:07,120
went off and then

2188
01:12:05,520 --> 01:12:09,120
things happened

2189
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:12,400
and now we're somewhere in the midst in

2190
01:12:09,120 --> 01:12:16,800
a haunted house amazing yeah great okay

2191
01:12:12,400 --> 01:12:19,280
cool that's i mean i have only dm'd for

2192
01:12:16,800 --> 01:12:20,719
people i knew prior to starting so

2193
01:12:19,280 --> 01:12:22,640
friends or you know acquaintances

2194
01:12:20,719 --> 01:12:24,159
friends and friends um my current

2195
01:12:22,640 --> 01:12:26,239
campaign is a mix of colleagues and

2196
01:12:24,159 --> 01:12:27,679
friends and ex-colleagues and stuff so

2197
01:12:26,239 --> 01:12:29,040
obviously you'll have a

2198
01:12:27,679 --> 01:12:30,880
large pre-existing relationship with

2199
01:12:29,040 --> 01:12:31,600
them so how has it been to kind of rock

2200
01:12:30,880 --> 01:12:33,600
up

2201
01:12:31,600 --> 01:12:34,880
and just be like i've never met people

2202
01:12:33,600 --> 01:12:36,719
before and now i've got all this

2203
01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:37,840
responsibility on these how has how has

2204
01:12:36,719 --> 01:12:40,560
that been for you

2205
01:12:37,840 --> 01:12:42,480
half exciting half terrifying

2206
01:12:40,560 --> 01:12:44,159
um fortunately one of my friends is

2207
01:12:42,480 --> 01:12:45,920
playing with me so i've got him as a

2208
01:12:44,159 --> 01:12:47,760
little bit of backup and he's really

2209
01:12:45,920 --> 01:12:49,679
good at character creation so he was

2210
01:12:47,760 --> 01:12:51,040
able to help the newer players and make

2211
01:12:49,679 --> 01:12:52,159
their characters as well without me

2212
01:12:51,040 --> 01:12:55,360
getting too

2213
01:12:52,159 --> 01:12:58,239
into their characters for them and but

2214
01:12:55,360 --> 01:13:00,320
it really did help i think with um

2215
01:12:58,239 --> 01:13:01,600
my online groups where we've had we were

2216
01:13:00,320 --> 01:13:03,840
random strangers that meant on the

2217
01:13:01,600 --> 01:13:06,000
internet

2218
01:13:03,840 --> 01:13:08,159
so it kind of took away that

2219
01:13:06,000 --> 01:13:09,840
um fear of people being horrible because

2220
01:13:08,159 --> 01:13:11,440
actually the dnd community is really

2221
01:13:09,840 --> 01:13:14,080
really friendly and really really

2222
01:13:11,440 --> 01:13:16,880
accepting and so there was no doubt in

2223
01:13:14,080 --> 01:13:19,520
my mind that people who came to join me

2224
01:13:16,880 --> 01:13:21,679
would be anything other than pleasant so

2225
01:13:19,520 --> 01:13:24,239
that made it yeah that's pretty easy

2226
01:13:21,679 --> 01:13:25,920
that's super super wholesome uh and i'm

2227
01:13:24,239 --> 01:13:27,679
very very happy for you that's been your

2228
01:13:25,920 --> 01:13:29,199
experience and i gotta say like

2229
01:13:27,679 --> 01:13:30,800
i was stoked coming through the door

2230
01:13:29,199 --> 01:13:32,960
tonight when i when i came in to sit up

2231
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:34,640
i was like oh my god what a crowd this

2232
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,159
is fantastic i couldn't have asked for a

2233
01:13:34,640 --> 01:13:38,159
better night to have done

2234
01:13:36,159 --> 01:13:40,400
amazing yeah

2235
01:13:38,159 --> 01:13:41,760
so how long left then do you reckon

2236
01:13:40,400 --> 01:13:45,440
you've got with these with this

2237
01:13:41,760 --> 01:13:47,920
particular group then well until we

2238
01:13:45,440 --> 01:13:49,120
despaired as a group i think it's gonna

2239
01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,360
be uh

2240
01:13:49,120 --> 01:13:54,880
an ongoing campaign i haven't got like a

2241
01:13:51,360 --> 01:13:56,640
end point i've got my big bad evil guy

2242
01:13:54,880 --> 01:13:58,960
mark one and my big buddy will go mark

2243
01:13:56,640 --> 01:14:00,480
two we'll see who else they've gotta

2244
01:13:58,960 --> 01:14:02,880
find or if you know you start a new

2245
01:14:00,480 --> 01:14:04,400
campaign or whatever yeah i get i i

2246
01:14:02,880 --> 01:14:05,440
appreciate now you know from a dm's

2247
01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,560
perspective that that question is

2248
01:14:05,440 --> 01:14:09,600
sometimes a bit of a how long was a

2249
01:14:06,560 --> 01:14:09,600
piece of string questions

2250
01:14:12,000 --> 01:14:15,280
um

2251
01:14:13,120 --> 01:14:17,520
like my scale for my campaign is like

2252
01:14:15,280 --> 01:14:20,320
maybe another year and a half that's how

2253
01:14:17,520 --> 01:14:21,760
vague and wide mine is so yeah i totally

2254
01:14:20,320 --> 01:14:23,360
get that so um

2255
01:14:21,760 --> 01:14:26,560
what about the other

2256
01:14:23,360 --> 01:14:28,480
is this one of the four then so i play

2257
01:14:26,560 --> 01:14:30,080
um

2258
01:14:28,480 --> 01:14:32,960
alternate thursdays two different

2259
01:14:30,080 --> 01:14:35,440
campaigns okay um and then i play a

2260
01:14:32,960 --> 01:14:37,840
campaign on friday and then i play curse

2261
01:14:35,440 --> 01:14:40,080
of strat every other saturday

2262
01:14:37,840 --> 01:14:42,640
what a schedule right okay i have no

2263
01:14:40,080 --> 01:14:42,640
free time

2264
01:14:43,199 --> 01:14:45,920
well

2265
01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:48,719
i've said previously that uh

2266
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:50,239
i was dming weekly and that was too much

2267
01:14:48,719 --> 01:14:52,320
for me to end up pushing that back to

2268
01:14:50,239 --> 01:14:53,920
fortnight yeah and

2269
01:14:52,320 --> 01:14:55,520
luckily we're all we

2270
01:14:53,920 --> 01:14:57,360
started in person

2271
01:14:55,520 --> 01:14:58,320
and obviously we were all working

2272
01:14:57,360 --> 01:14:59,760
together

2273
01:14:58,320 --> 01:15:01,760
so it's very easy to schedule because

2274
01:14:59,760 --> 01:15:03,199
it's like what day are you free you're

2275
01:15:01,760 --> 01:15:05,120
all starting at work so it was like a

2276
01:15:03,199 --> 01:15:06,480
piece of cake to like arrange and see

2277
01:15:05,120 --> 01:15:07,840
and check people are going to be there

2278
01:15:06,480 --> 01:15:09,840
and stuff so

2279
01:15:07,840 --> 01:15:10,800
we've been very fortunate to keep that

2280
01:15:09,840 --> 01:15:12,239
schedule

2281
01:15:10,800 --> 01:15:14,080
amazing over the last couple of years

2282
01:15:12,239 --> 01:15:15,920
it's like what i say like work having

2283
01:15:14,080 --> 01:15:17,920
just missed the schedule a session last

2284
01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:19,120
week so it's now in a month between yeah

2285
01:15:17,920 --> 01:15:20,800
yeah um

2286
01:15:19,120 --> 01:15:22,960
but uh one player still couldn't make it

2287
01:15:20,800 --> 01:15:24,640
unfortunately but i jagged his thing for

2288
01:15:22,960 --> 01:15:25,760
that time but yeah so

2289
01:15:24,640 --> 01:15:27,120
for me i'm

2290
01:15:25,760 --> 01:15:29,679
just dealing that

2291
01:15:27,120 --> 01:15:31,440
every two weeks on a tuesday night

2292
01:15:29,679 --> 01:15:34,960
starting at seven and then usually

2293
01:15:31,440 --> 01:15:35,840
ending about ten and then i play in

2294
01:15:34,960 --> 01:15:37,120
depends this is where it gets

2295
01:15:35,840 --> 01:15:38,400
interesting it depends on how you count

2296
01:15:37,120 --> 01:15:40,480
right because like something can be like

2297
01:15:38,400 --> 01:15:41,840
we've gone on hiatus now

2298
01:15:40,480 --> 01:15:44,080
you really wanted to play that in person

2299
01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:46,560
yeah yeah played on that one for like

2300
01:15:44,080 --> 01:15:48,480
a year and a half absolutely yeah

2301
01:15:46,560 --> 01:15:50,719
i know i'm very annoyed because i love

2302
01:15:48,480 --> 01:15:52,800
the character i know it's horrible when

2303
01:15:50,719 --> 01:15:53,760
you can't play your favorite character

2304
01:15:52,800 --> 01:15:55,920
i like

2305
01:15:53,760 --> 01:15:57,840
build theme like the mechanics is a

2306
01:15:55,920 --> 01:16:01,199
perfect marriage of like mechanics i

2307
01:15:57,840 --> 01:16:03,360
know vision yeah so i'm super stoked to

2308
01:16:01,199 --> 01:16:04,640
eventually get back to playing that

2309
01:16:03,360 --> 01:16:06,880
character

2310
01:16:04,640 --> 01:16:08,400
so what kind of characters are you

2311
01:16:06,880 --> 01:16:10,880
running at the moment then uh the ones

2312
01:16:08,400 --> 01:16:15,040
you play okay so the characters that i

2313
01:16:10,880 --> 01:16:17,760
play and i have a real thing for pretty

2314
01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:19,600
characters so i'm always playing half

2315
01:16:17,760 --> 01:16:20,640
valves

2316
01:16:19,600 --> 01:16:23,199
and

2317
01:16:20,640 --> 01:16:27,679
i play on

2318
01:16:23,199 --> 01:16:29,840
a thursday um a changeling okay yeah bad

2319
01:16:27,679 --> 01:16:32,320
yeah but a college of whispers bad

2320
01:16:29,840 --> 01:16:35,120
because spooky scary is my life yeah

2321
01:16:32,320 --> 01:16:36,560
yeah um did i roll up change change

2322
01:16:35,120 --> 01:16:39,199
things the one they like the eber ones

2323
01:16:36,560 --> 01:16:40,719
that can yeah yeah i i also played a

2324
01:16:39,199 --> 01:16:43,760
changing bar college of whispers for

2325
01:16:40,719 --> 01:16:46,000
like a five shot oh yeah yeah yeah

2326
01:16:43,760 --> 01:16:47,199
it's working college of spirits um

2327
01:16:46,000 --> 01:16:48,640
spirits which is from the new van

2328
01:16:47,199 --> 01:16:49,760
rickens

2329
01:16:48,640 --> 01:16:53,280
yeah

2330
01:16:49,760 --> 01:16:54,400
ouija boards uh yeah it's it's wonderful

2331
01:16:53,280 --> 01:16:56,239
um and

2332
01:16:54,400 --> 01:16:58,000
they're actually a genderfluid character

2333
01:16:56,239 --> 01:16:59,600
because of their changeling and

2334
01:16:58,000 --> 01:17:00,640
abilities

2335
01:16:59,600 --> 01:17:02,800
then

2336
01:17:00,640 --> 01:17:05,360
alternate thursdays i play a half elf

2337
01:17:02,800 --> 01:17:07,360
warlock okay we won't speak about her

2338
01:17:05,360 --> 01:17:09,679
too much she has done horrible horrible

2339
01:17:07,360 --> 01:17:11,199
things because warlocks there's a theme

2340
01:17:09,679 --> 01:17:13,120
appearing tonight with a couple of my

2341
01:17:11,199 --> 01:17:16,600
guests of having that like

2342
01:17:13,120 --> 01:17:16,600
i've made a character

2343
01:17:16,640 --> 01:17:21,199
questionable choices yeah

2344
01:17:18,960 --> 01:17:24,000
um and then i play

2345
01:17:21,199 --> 01:17:26,320
a high elf rogue on fridays and on

2346
01:17:24,000 --> 01:17:30,180
saturdays i play

2347
01:17:26,320 --> 01:17:33,380
what do i play a change laying vogue

2348
01:17:30,180 --> 01:17:33,380
[Laughter]

2349
01:17:35,040 --> 01:17:38,960
maintaining that many

2350
01:17:37,120 --> 01:17:41,280
characters if you don't mind me asking

2351
01:17:38,960 --> 01:17:43,040
like how do you find it

2352
01:17:41,280 --> 01:17:44,640
like changing gears between the

2353
01:17:43,040 --> 01:17:46,719
different characters you know sometimes

2354
01:17:44,640 --> 01:17:49,040
only a couple of days differently yeah

2355
01:17:46,719 --> 01:17:51,120
from a role play perspective is it

2356
01:17:49,040 --> 01:17:53,520
difficult or is it quite natural to you

2357
01:17:51,120 --> 01:17:54,880
for me i think it comes quite naturally

2358
01:17:53,520 --> 01:17:56,640
and it really does depend on the

2359
01:17:54,880 --> 01:17:58,560
campaign as well because

2360
01:17:56,640 --> 01:18:00,480
one of my campaigns is really combat

2361
01:17:58,560 --> 01:18:02,400
heavy so i don't really need to worry

2362
01:18:00,480 --> 01:18:04,159
about the character and the personality

2363
01:18:02,400 --> 01:18:06,320
and the role play it's more about the

2364
01:18:04,159 --> 01:18:08,080
mechanics of the character

2365
01:18:06,320 --> 01:18:11,120
and then some of my other campaigns are

2366
01:18:08,080 --> 01:18:12,640
really role-play focused and

2367
01:18:11,120 --> 01:18:13,920
you know immediately

2368
01:18:12,640 --> 01:18:16,400
um

2369
01:18:13,920 --> 01:18:18,000
where you are and the ambiance like

2370
01:18:16,400 --> 01:18:20,159
gets you into your character very

2371
01:18:18,000 --> 01:18:22,080
quickly yeah and and it helps that the

2372
01:18:20,159 --> 01:18:23,520
campaigns are vastly different because

2373
01:18:22,080 --> 01:18:27,040
i'm doing like pirates who are doing

2374
01:18:23,520 --> 01:18:27,040
cursive strand where oh

2375
01:18:28,680 --> 01:18:33,600
[Music]

2376
01:18:30,640 --> 01:18:35,040
yeah yeah into that mindset okay okay

2377
01:18:33,600 --> 01:18:36,800
cool cool

2378
01:18:35,040 --> 01:18:38,080
um

2379
01:18:36,800 --> 01:18:40,239
so

2380
01:18:38,080 --> 01:18:42,320
is it just dnd you plays it presumably

2381
01:18:40,239 --> 01:18:44,000
fifth edition basically

2382
01:18:42,320 --> 01:18:45,840
are there any other ttrpgs you've played

2383
01:18:44,000 --> 01:18:48,480
or um i've done a couple of call of

2384
01:18:45,840 --> 01:18:50,960
cthulhu one shots um

2385
01:18:48,480 --> 01:18:52,320
pretty horrific yeah um don't get out of

2386
01:18:50,960 --> 01:18:55,520
those alive

2387
01:18:52,320 --> 01:18:57,040
and i do a lot of just board games and

2388
01:18:55,520 --> 01:18:58,880
we're really big into board games me and

2389
01:18:57,040 --> 01:19:01,520
my partner um

2390
01:18:58,880 --> 01:19:03,199
yeah so we do that quite often

2391
01:19:01,520 --> 01:19:05,679
um

2392
01:19:03,199 --> 01:19:07,679
yeah i think that's about it my my

2393
01:19:05,679 --> 01:19:10,640
primary group have just

2394
01:19:07,679 --> 01:19:11,920
started up gloomhaven again

2395
01:19:10,640 --> 01:19:14,159
after not being able to play for quite

2396
01:19:11,920 --> 01:19:15,920
some time we've dived back in

2397
01:19:14,159 --> 01:19:17,360
into that that's that's our primary

2398
01:19:15,920 --> 01:19:18,400
ballgame of choice at the moment which i

2399
01:19:17,360 --> 01:19:20,159
mentioned a couple of times in the

2400
01:19:18,400 --> 01:19:22,159
podcast before

2401
01:19:20,159 --> 01:19:25,199
as it dominates so much of my friday

2402
01:19:22,159 --> 01:19:27,600
every other friday absolutely absolutely

2403
01:19:25,199 --> 01:19:29,760
so that's super enjoyable in terms of so

2404
01:19:27,600 --> 01:19:33,120
caller cthulhu then um i've heard it a

2405
01:19:29,760 --> 01:19:36,719
lot uh and it's something you know i'm

2406
01:19:33,120 --> 01:19:38,800
a fan of the lovecraftian

2407
01:19:36,719 --> 01:19:40,159
vibe yeah yeah so how does that work

2408
01:19:38,800 --> 01:19:41,520
then like where are the differences

2409
01:19:40,159 --> 01:19:43,199
between that and say like it would it be

2410
01:19:41,520 --> 01:19:45,840
a simple thing to change from like my

2411
01:19:43,199 --> 01:19:47,199
super super fit edition brain into call

2412
01:19:45,840 --> 01:19:50,480
of cthulhu

2413
01:19:47,199 --> 01:19:52,640
i find it fairly straightforward and the

2414
01:19:50,480 --> 01:19:54,560
biggest difference between sort of 5v

2415
01:19:52,640 --> 01:19:57,040
and call of cthulhu is

2416
01:19:54,560 --> 01:19:58,239
called through your works on percentages

2417
01:19:57,040 --> 01:20:01,199
it's you've got

2418
01:19:58,239 --> 01:20:04,719
a certain percentage to make you save

2419
01:20:01,199 --> 01:20:07,280
your role and you have no money you have

2420
01:20:04,719 --> 01:20:10,960
no weapons you have no armor you are

2421
01:20:07,280 --> 01:20:13,679
literally a person oh wow like okay in

2422
01:20:10,960 --> 01:20:15,199
new york in yeah wherever you are i mean

2423
01:20:13,679 --> 01:20:17,520
you might be a police officer if you're

2424
01:20:15,199 --> 01:20:19,040
lucky and have a handgun yeah but like i

2425
01:20:17,520 --> 01:20:20,480
mean i imagine that doesn't help very

2426
01:20:19,040 --> 01:20:23,120
much with kind of monstrosities from

2427
01:20:20,480 --> 01:20:24,880
another realm anyway so no um we yeah we

2428
01:20:23,120 --> 01:20:27,520
played um in january for one of my

2429
01:20:24,880 --> 01:20:29,520
friends birthdays and only one of us

2430
01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:31,600
made it out alive yeah wow okay and

2431
01:20:29,520 --> 01:20:34,239
that's a success

2432
01:20:31,600 --> 01:20:35,679
okay yeah i mean if you want to get into

2433
01:20:34,239 --> 01:20:37,440
call of cthulhu you can play some of

2434
01:20:35,679 --> 01:20:39,040
like the arkham horror board games

2435
01:20:37,440 --> 01:20:41,760
they're very is there sits one on the

2436
01:20:39,040 --> 01:20:43,600
shelf just behind you yeah uh

2437
01:20:41,760 --> 01:20:45,280
the one we have at home yeah yeah really

2438
01:20:43,600 --> 01:20:47,600
good fun and make sure you've got at

2439
01:20:45,280 --> 01:20:49,440
least four or five hours oh wow okay

2440
01:20:47,600 --> 01:20:51,360
play it yeah

2441
01:20:49,440 --> 01:20:53,120
okay cool yeah that is such a completely

2442
01:20:51,360 --> 01:20:55,360
different vibe than like obviously d5 is

2443
01:20:53,120 --> 01:20:56,480
all like heroism like superheroes

2444
01:20:55,360 --> 01:20:58,400
essentially it's like fantasy

2445
01:20:56,480 --> 01:21:00,239
superheroes that's actually a really

2446
01:20:58,400 --> 01:21:01,840
interesting shift to that other dynamic

2447
01:21:00,239 --> 01:21:04,159
then to be like no you're just you're

2448
01:21:01,840 --> 01:21:06,080
just a dude you're just a person and

2449
01:21:04,159 --> 01:21:07,920
it's more about investigating and

2450
01:21:06,080 --> 01:21:09,520
figuring out what's going on and not

2451
01:21:07,920 --> 01:21:12,400
setting off like

2452
01:21:09,520 --> 01:21:15,440
apocalyptic events and things yeah yeah

2453
01:21:12,400 --> 01:21:17,679
yeah okay fantastic

2454
01:21:15,440 --> 01:21:18,639
all right well i believe we may well be

2455
01:21:17,679 --> 01:21:21,520
getting

2456
01:21:18,639 --> 01:21:22,480
ready to picked out in the not too near

2457
01:21:21,520 --> 01:21:23,520
future

2458
01:21:22,480 --> 01:21:25,360
um

2459
01:21:23,520 --> 01:21:27,360
so i guess the only other thing to say

2460
01:21:25,360 --> 01:21:29,360
then is like

2461
01:21:27,360 --> 01:21:30,800
from all your

2462
01:21:29,360 --> 01:21:32,239
different games you've had like you've

2463
01:21:30,800 --> 01:21:33,600
played here you play remotely and stuff

2464
01:21:32,239 --> 01:21:35,360
what's your kind of and like the

2465
01:21:33,600 --> 01:21:37,520
different games you've played

2466
01:21:35,360 --> 01:21:39,360
your board games d5e

2467
01:21:37,520 --> 01:21:41,360
what's your favorite

2468
01:21:39,360 --> 01:21:44,239
combination of all of those things then

2469
01:21:41,360 --> 01:21:45,760
so um i'm pretty new to dming so i'm not

2470
01:21:44,239 --> 01:21:47,920
sure that it's my favorite thing just

2471
01:21:45,760 --> 01:21:51,120
yet but i am enjoying it i am enjoying

2472
01:21:47,920 --> 01:21:53,920
it and but i do really enjoy

2473
01:21:51,120 --> 01:21:56,480
role play heavy 5e okay that is without

2474
01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,880
a doubt like my favorite thing and you

2475
01:21:56,480 --> 01:22:01,120
know as much as i like serious campaigns

2476
01:21:58,880 --> 01:22:03,520
i do like shenanigans wow you know so

2477
01:22:01,120 --> 01:22:07,040
it's about having that that balance yeah

2478
01:22:03,520 --> 01:22:08,639
yeah so that's my ideal yeah the tagline

2479
01:22:07,040 --> 01:22:10,800
of my homebrew campaign that i run that

2480
01:22:08,639 --> 01:22:12,880
open with is a world equally full of

2481
01:22:10,800 --> 01:22:14,480
whimsy as it is war and i really want

2482
01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:16,560
that that balance of like here are your

2483
01:22:14,480 --> 01:22:19,280
like poignant moments that you get

2484
01:22:16,560 --> 01:22:20,639
but also like here's the goofy stuff

2485
01:22:19,280 --> 01:22:22,159
that happens as well because you need

2486
01:22:20,639 --> 01:22:24,560
the brevity to

2487
01:22:22,159 --> 01:22:25,520
to enjoy the ride of the the narrative

2488
01:22:24,560 --> 01:22:28,719
right

2489
01:22:25,520 --> 01:22:30,880
absolutely yeah cool well uh thank you

2490
01:22:28,719 --> 01:22:33,280
ever so much for your time this evening

2491
01:22:30,880 --> 01:22:35,760
i will let you finish uh packing away

2492
01:22:33,280 --> 01:22:37,600
and uh yeah and uh good luck for all

2493
01:22:35,760 --> 01:22:39,360
those other myriad of games you're

2494
01:22:37,600 --> 01:22:40,960
currently involved in thank you very

2495
01:22:39,360 --> 01:22:43,679
much i appreciate it have a great

2496
01:22:40,960 --> 01:22:43,679
evening thank you

2497
01:22:44,400 --> 01:22:48,719
so there we go i hope you had as much

2498
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:50,800
fun listening as i did recording it was

2499
01:22:48,719 --> 01:22:52,560
such a unique experience i'm so happy

2500
01:22:50,800 --> 01:22:54,320
that i got to share it with you all

2501
01:22:52,560 --> 01:22:55,920
huge thanks to kieran and everyone else

2502
01:22:54,320 --> 01:22:57,520
at geek retreat southampton for allowing

2503
01:22:55,920 --> 01:22:59,840
me to set up and annex one of their

2504
01:22:57,520 --> 01:23:01,520
sofas for the entire evening i would

2505
01:22:59,840 --> 01:23:02,800
very much encourage you all at home to

2506
01:23:01,520 --> 01:23:05,360
check out your local branch as they

2507
01:23:02,800 --> 01:23:07,520
really are cool venues otherwise that's

2508
01:23:05,360 --> 01:23:08,960
it for season two thank you all again so

2509
01:23:07,520 --> 01:23:10,960
much for listening and to all my guests

2510
01:23:08,960 --> 01:23:12,880
this season we've covered everything

2511
01:23:10,960 --> 01:23:15,360
from tactics and planning all the way up

2512
01:23:12,880 --> 01:23:18,400
to romance and aesthetic

2513
01:23:15,360 --> 01:23:21,120
wow what a what a wild ride

2514
01:23:18,400 --> 01:23:23,040
uh next week i'll be taking a week off

2515
01:23:21,120 --> 01:23:24,320
so there won't be an episode instead i'd

2516
01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,760
really appreciate it if you could drop a

2517
01:23:24,320 --> 01:23:27,679
review for the show as it would mean the

2518
01:23:25,760 --> 01:23:29,280
world to me and also check out my

2519
01:23:27,679 --> 01:23:30,960
website where you can find a link to my

2520
01:23:29,280 --> 01:23:32,719
new patreon

2521
01:23:30,960 --> 01:23:34,719
i look forward to publishing the opener

2522
01:23:32,719 --> 01:23:36,719
to season three on the 29th of october

2523
01:23:34,719 --> 01:23:39,040
which is on the topic of story with tale

2524
01:23:36,719 --> 01:23:40,719
of the manticore and that one is really

2525
01:23:39,040 --> 01:23:41,520
really good so be sure to check that one

2526
01:23:40,719 --> 01:23:44,960
out

2527
01:23:41,520 --> 01:23:47,900
as usual thank you all for listening and

2528
01:23:44,960 --> 01:23:48,450
good night

2529
01:23:47,900 --> 01:23:57,949
[Applause]

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01:23:48,450 --> 01:23:57,949
[Music]