June 10, 2022

Flavour


This spicy episode I'm joined by Fruits from The Homebakery to talk all about flavouring our D&D campaigns. A large portion of the show is spent discussing the different classes and their subclass options, and how their bagged inherently affects the flavour of player characters. We then move on to introducing food and drink into your campaign, and how it's perhaps an often overlooked vehicle for enabling role play opportunities.

  • 01:38 - Pre-Baked Classes
  • 10:24 - Impact of Sub-Class on Backstory
  • 29:15 - Flavourful Campaigns
  • 34:33 - Fantasy Food & Drink
  • 42:00 - Flavouring your Role Play
  • 51:42 - Subversion

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Intro Music: 'Local Forecast' by Kevin MacLeod
Intermission Music: 'Chill' by Kevin MacLeod
Outro Music: 'Local Forecast - Elevator' by Kevin MacLeod

Transcript

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welcome thinkers to season four episode

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three of thinking critically today's

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topic is

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flavor

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this time i am going to front load the

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episode and just say if you like the

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episode you like what we do you like the

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thinking critically or you can just buy

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me a coffee

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which i also love that can be done at

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cohenfee.com

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thinking critically and i would love you

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forever so with that bit of

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shameless self

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promo out the window let's get on with

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the show

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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and today i'm joined by fruits from the

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home bakery thank you ever so much for

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joining us today fruits can you tell us

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a little bit about yourself hi thank you

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for having me i do sort of

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d homebrew stuff uh subclasses space

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expansions things like that

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and i'm mostly on twitter awesome thank

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you so much today's topic is

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flavor i almost forgot then the first

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time ever in like

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80 episodes is flavor so what does that

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mean to you in the d and wider ttrpg

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framework

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so for me it is sort of the stuff that

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gets you interested in wanting to play

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a certain thing

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i feel like you know like socials and

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become like baked in with

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so much

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stuff to use as backstory and you know

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bounce your creation from like creating

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your character yeah that's generally so

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that sort of stuff is kind of the the

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flavor points for me

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props for um

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punning with baked in there yeah yeah

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about flavor so

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i'm gonna give you full credit even if

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it was just a mistake so

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okay that seems like a good place as any

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then and

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frankly something that actually escaped

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my notes was the flavor of the classes

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and it which is funny because i always

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use that's like my go-to word when i'm

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describing something

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yeah also goes quite hand in hand with

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spicy which i know is terminology weird

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yes more metaphors than

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i you know initially suspect anyway a

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first question then that comes to mind

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is as you said two permanent examples

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there of warlock and sorcerer are both

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flavorful so they've got a lot just

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ingrained in in the subclasses that you

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know the subclasses have baggage yes

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you could put it versus like

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to a lesser extent like a fighter

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champion it's just well i'm just really

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good at being a fire there's less

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baggage behind it yeah now i'm fairly

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certain from any

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statistics i've seen that warlocks are

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usually one of the top picks top five if

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not even top three podium picks for

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favorite classes they're just very good

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whereas sorcerers are

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not for various reasons um you know

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they're like lame wizards people think

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of them you know they've got very

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curtailed spell lists blah blah blah but

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so it's interesting there that

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just as a thought exercise that clearly

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it's not the flavor that is it's

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definitely not the flavor that's lacking

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it's kind of why i don't play wizards

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that much is because the flavor there

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even though you're right they are kind

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that's just what i've heard you know i

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don't don't don't get the pitch box out

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for me listeners like that's just uh

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no like metamagic is is phenomenal but

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you run out of those uh sorcery points

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really quickly

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yeah but yeah having like a lineage that

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like goes back to like an ancient dragon

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or you know like the new aberrant mind

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there's so much stuff that you can do

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now i was gonna say like my main

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character i'm playing at the moment is a

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wizard so immediately i've i'm offended

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but now you know when i think about it

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yeah i am

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playing him a bit tropey you know like

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i'm clever if you had to describe him

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too there's nothing wrong with that but

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i feel like as well

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playing a wizard you have to put a lot

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more of the leg work in to make it sort

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of unique and exciting for yourself

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yeah

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rather than just like another gandalf

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yeah exactly whereas yeah with like

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warlocks or sorceress it's like yeah now

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breathe fire or

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i i want to have like a

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pact with an ancient fae and all of that

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baggage that comes with it

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yeah i must admit i did look at a couple

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of the

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i think you know i think this is

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something that actually sorcerers have

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over warlocks so a lot of the warlock

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patrons are

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they're almost not setting agnostic

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they're almost like you know campaign

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specific in a way in that in that

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there's a lot there's so much baggage

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there there's a lot on the dm to have to

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kind of world build in so like there

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really is yeah

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my warlock players picked hex blade and

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it's raven queen and so then there's

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like okay well i guess now i've kind of

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have to have the shadowfell i have to

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have the raven queen in which is i'm

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making it sound like a

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like a a job but it isn't it but that

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there is just that extra okay well now

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there's a great old one

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what does that how does that impact

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the sorcerer subclasses or origins to

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use the correct terminology are

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just as flavorful

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but if memory serves a bit more setting

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agnostic so it's just like like

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clockwork soul it's just like oh i think

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that even the wording is is deliberately

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ambiguous except for that one it's like

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something you you found a trinket from

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mechanism and that's it or maybe your

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dad went there once

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50 years ago by accident yeah and that's

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it and there's just so much

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flavor there that you could you could

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have mechanism or if you're in a setting

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that doesn't you could have something

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else or you know avoid where that should

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be it's it's it does just seem a little

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we had a um

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a really interesting um

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we had a artillery artificer who is now

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um and that

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the arcane weave itself and saw like the

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ways you can spin it yeah yeah i want to

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i want to um offer a uh

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a counter point to that one for the for

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the clockwork so when i saw where i

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literally it was like reading the

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fluffer mechanism modrons it's something

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like once every millennia the moderns go

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different planes just to like make sure

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everything's still where it should be

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there'll be all these

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the the triangles and the squares and

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the circles just like storming around

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every millennials like the great

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pilgrimage or something it's called a

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and his backstory was that like he was

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born or conceived when when that was

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happening and that was enough just to

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just to have that wisp of

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confused and scared and like oh

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like i've got a guy standing next to me

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who is like

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channeling divine energy but it's like

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not petrified about it whereas i can

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shoot fire and i'm like scared to [ __ ]

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out me

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which i think is a fair point to be

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honest when you are born with magic to

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have that sort of reaction mm-hmm

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yeah yeah no i i i if i was to have a

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serious sorcerer and a longer-term

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campaign i would very much yeah work

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with that

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this is inherently scary until i've

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found out what's going on i'm going to

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be wary of this

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because i think that's a bit of an

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interesting foil there for for character

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development and character growth but

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the case in point being we've had we've

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just talked about two different

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completely different origins

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for the same sorceress origin and it'd

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the same you know mechanically whereas

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and then maybe i'm doing a disservice

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but like the great old one for example

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that always has to be a great old one

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yeah which is true

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99 times out of 100 is probably going to

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lovecraftian form yeah most of them are

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cathedral

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its end goals might change even though

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they're all inherently unknowable so

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does that really matter if they change i

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guess not but like

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yes there's there's room there but it i

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would say narrower than

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yeah what something provides you which

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is funny then that everybody loves

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warlock so much when

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it i guess it just goes to show that

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everybody loves everybody's a mid max

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are at heart boom i'm gonna everyone

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really wants once that outfit

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yep yeah there we go now i've set myself

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up to be uh it's okay you know we've got

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it on record you hate sorcerers and uh

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reluctant axes

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that's uh that's the quote of the

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episode down the line says danilo

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decrees everybody plays a warlock so

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wouldn't min max yeah i could see the

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hate now

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from the community

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um

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but no so what in your opinion then are

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some some classes that i did reference

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on earlier on but some classes or even

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subclasses that are perhaps

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less flavorful so the ones that come to

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mind for me

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they're not specific classes although

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friday in general i feel like you have

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to put

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a lot more work in

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but

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a couple of the new psionics from me

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one's the soul knife and the side

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warrior

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unless you're playing like a gift yankee

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or a gift sorry guess you're right yes

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those

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the the flavor text doesn't really give

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you that much other than

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oh maybe you you went and studied

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psychic powers and it's

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yeah which is a shame because they're

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both really

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fun looking mechanically yeah it's just

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it puts a lot on you to then think about

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um so i was a fighter and i just did

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like swords and shields but now i have

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telekinesis

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yeah i i totally agree the image of the

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with the rogue with like the two purple

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daggers yeah it's

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dope that's sick like who who wouldn't

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want to summon your purple eldritch

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daggers out of your hands your psychic

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daggers and be like these are gonna hurt

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you exactly i'm just pr throwing my

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sheer willpower alone is sick but then

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because their class those subclasses are

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kind of in

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isolation i guess a little bit they're

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very stand out it's it's i guess it's

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hard to kind of

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build in

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all this psychic

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baggage yeah unless you're starting at

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level three

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it's

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i think yeah you definitely have to set

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the groundworks of

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picking that subclass

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you know if you're playing like a very

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narrative heavy

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game because it's just

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oh yeah now i woke up and i i can move

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things with my mind it's a little

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which is interesting when you when you

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put when you juxtapose that next to what

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we were just talking about the sorcerer

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and being scared of your own powers

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fighters being very

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not mechanical in the meta sense but

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mechanically in universe in that they

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are you know they are very martially

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trained they're very pragmatic very

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material in a sense you know materially

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yeah based

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to them wake up the next day and be like

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i can move things from my brain that

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would be

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that would be wild you would you'd be

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freaking out if you just spent your last

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30 years training how to

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sword on board

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and then the next day be like oh i guess

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i can

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shoot laser beams from my brain now

370
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it's not

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like i'm not ready to go adventuring

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kind of

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yeah i think it's also as well one of

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those things of

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especially with um certain class like

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because they get their subclasses later

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on and everything whereas sorcerer's

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sources and warlocks actually um both

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get those from level one clerics as well

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which i would say are also very sort of

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at least for the most part usually very

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like

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flavor heavy

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picks

385
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yeah so yeah it can be really difficult

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when you get to that third level when

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it's like well i want to do this and

388
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it's really wild and

389
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how do i

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put those two together

391
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yeah

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i'm just trying to think about my how my

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campaign has gone with my players and

394
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whether there's been any pitfalls or

395
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mistakes or lessons to be learned from

396
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what they've done and we did start with

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at level one because they were all

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many of them were new players and those

399
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that weren't were more than happy to

400
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join them on that journey and start from

401
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level one rather than jump into three or

402
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five or something

403
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but no i don't i

404
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what do we have druid sorcerer funnily

405
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enough rogue who i know is at level

406
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three right for their subclass but

407
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he at least looked ahead

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and

409
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pre-built in he he actually did quite a

410
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lot of heavy lifting in his backstory

411
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there to make him an assassin before

412
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hitting the assassin at level three so

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that

414
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wasn't too much of a a leap of logic

415
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there that didn't ding and also ones

416
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like assassin and thief they kind of

417
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just

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roll straight into like

419
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you're already a rogue it makes sense to

420
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then specialize in

421
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killing very good or stealing very good

422
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what's your speciality killing but like

423
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really really good at it

424
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what's your

425
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what's your favorite then i am going to

426
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put you on the spot now i've put i've

427
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put my name down i've put you know

428
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what's your what's your favorite

429
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subclass then and i'll be kind and allow

430
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you to have two picks based on two

431
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different metrics

432
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two different standards

433
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okay

434
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the one i go back to a lot is definitely

435
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the archway

436
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warlock okay

437
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and that's just because i find archway

438
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and fey in general very fun and it gives

439
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you a massive excuse to sort of build

440
00:15:26,399 --> 00:15:32,240
out this section of like feywild and um

441
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failure and things like that which can

442
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be really fun

443
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i also say do you feel like the archway

444
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warlock

445
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gets away with a lot flavor-wise because

446
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it's

447
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archway

448
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has definitely beguard me from further

449
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scrutiny

450
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um

451
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and

452
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if if that's a clear number one you

453
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don't you don't have to we don't have to

454
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you know scrounge for second place yeah

455
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if it's always if it's always archery

456
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then then so be it

457
00:16:02,079 --> 00:16:06,959
yeah no i think actually just just kind

458
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of win for me at least

459
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um

460
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though yeah they are also definitely one

461
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of those ones that

462
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because it's so broad i have come back

463
00:16:15,440 --> 00:16:23,480
to a lot homebrew wise to

464
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make more nishinisha

465
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warlock subclasses

466
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okay so tell me a little bit about that

467
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and then they are they

468
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still ostensibly archfay or are they

469
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they're still archway it's just archfay

470
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encapsulates quite a lot so um

471
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the actual subclass itself is you know

472
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does a very sort of

473
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generic look at faye in terms of

474
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you know charming and nature and stuff

475
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um

476
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but you've got all these other areas of

477
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fae

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like

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the different courts and things like

480
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that to look at

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and

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you can just you

483
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depending on the world your dm might

484
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have like just really specific archway

485
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in

486
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my sending game i'm at the moment i'm

487
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playing an archery warlock but

488
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with plans on switching later on to

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the lunar hump patron

490
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okay because

491
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uh my warlocks patron is

492
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like lord of beasts and

493
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a lot of hunt and things like that

494
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and i was just like yeah i just really

495
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want to go really specific into that

496
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rather than

497
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sort of the charm and deception that

498
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they're usually associated with

499
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indeed yeah okay okay yeah so clearly

500
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yeah archway is your

501
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your most favorite by country mile i

502
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think it's fair to say yeah

503
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how about you yeah yeah no i'm just

504
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trying to think um

505
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so the reason i would i i tend to always

506
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you know people always ask me god i

507
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sound like i'm a public figure

508
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people i meet tend to ask me when we're

509
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talking about video games and stuff they

510
00:18:06,160 --> 00:18:10,559
sell what's your favorite video game and

511
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i always make the answer very more much

512
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more complicated than it needs to be

513
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because i always usually judge them by

514
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two different metrics one you know a set

515
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of games that i personally enjoy

516
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and then two games which i think are

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very mechanically sound and they're very

518
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well designed and just good

519
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like almost objectively good

520
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video games as a piece of media and so

521
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i'm trying to apply that reasoning to

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d d

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and

524
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warlock's been taken that's fine because

525
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i'm not too hot on those anyway

526
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i know they're all a bunch of mid-maxes

527
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download voyage2022

528
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to cite your source

529
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um

530
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gosh uh

531
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it's easier for me to say about things i

532
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don't i'm not too invested in the flavor

533
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of

534
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like

535
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not to alienate

536
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50 of my audience or anything but monks

537
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i just not i i played

538
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the the only subclass i played for a

539
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monk is drunk and master because

540
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it just

541
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i just can't not pick

542
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a subclass of his channel's you know

543
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jackie chan energy

544
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:22,400
why would you ever pick a different sub

545
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glass

546
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so all the rest had

547
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not really

548
00:19:26,400 --> 00:19:30,559
taken any of any of my boxes

549
00:19:28,640 --> 00:19:33,360
monk is definitely one of those ones for

550
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me where i i really enjoy it mechanics

551
00:19:33,360 --> 00:19:37,840
wise and i played a lot of monks

552
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i kind of have to abstract it from all

553
00:19:37,840 --> 00:19:43,360
of the flavor text

554
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completely to get on with it um yeah

555
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i've heard that a lot i've had a lot of

556
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people say something similar and that

557
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there's a big of a stretch between the

558
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flavor text and what happens in game

559
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with monks than there are other

560
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classes

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um

562
00:19:57,600 --> 00:20:01,840
not sure why that is i think it is just

563
00:19:59,679 --> 00:20:02,960
because of how weirdly niche a lot of

564
00:20:01,840 --> 00:20:04,640
them

565
00:20:02,960 --> 00:20:06,480
are and

566
00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:07,840
makes things very specific and then and

567
00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:09,760
this kind of preconceived notions of

568
00:20:07,840 --> 00:20:11,200
what monks are it makes it difficult for

569
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,200
people to really put their own stamp on

570
00:20:11,200 --> 00:20:14,400
it without without taking that step away

571
00:20:13,200 --> 00:20:17,120
from

572
00:20:14,400 --> 00:20:19,760
yeah flavor text dictates

573
00:20:17,120 --> 00:20:22,240
okay let me let me put my money where my

574
00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:24,159
mouth is and

575
00:20:22,240 --> 00:20:25,200
i think overall having not really played

576
00:20:24,159 --> 00:20:28,000
that many

577
00:20:25,200 --> 00:20:30,000
i think a bard is probably

578
00:20:28,000 --> 00:20:31,440
one of my favorite

579
00:20:30,000 --> 00:20:33,360
flavors

580
00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:34,640
because

581
00:20:33,360 --> 00:20:36,480
again i just think with all the extra

582
00:20:34,640 --> 00:20:37,919
subclasses now i just think there's so

583
00:20:36,480 --> 00:20:40,080
much

584
00:20:37,919 --> 00:20:42,000
so much variety there that you can take

585
00:20:40,080 --> 00:20:43,120
as much or as little as that flavor text

586
00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:44,240
as you want

587
00:20:43,120 --> 00:20:46,720
and

588
00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:48,480
spin it into something completely

589
00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:50,960
unique for you

590
00:20:48,480 --> 00:20:52,640
so you've got some like

591
00:20:50,960 --> 00:20:55,520
softer touch ones like

592
00:20:52,640 --> 00:20:57,039
creation i think college of creation or

593
00:20:55,520 --> 00:20:58,559
whatever it is that's like

594
00:20:57,039 --> 00:21:01,039
you can

595
00:20:58,559 --> 00:21:03,280
see into the weave and make new things

596
00:21:01,039 --> 00:21:05,600
and that's it really there's you know

597
00:21:03,280 --> 00:21:06,400
there's only so much you can say about

598
00:21:05,600 --> 00:21:08,320
that

599
00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:09,760
and then you have other

600
00:21:08,320 --> 00:21:11,919
colleges of

601
00:21:09,760 --> 00:21:13,840
shadows and

602
00:21:11,919 --> 00:21:16,159
uh glamour and stuff like that which are

603
00:21:13,840 --> 00:21:18,320
again there's just you can go every so

604
00:21:16,159 --> 00:21:19,919
many different routes yeah yeah and then

605
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,080
you could take them and again another

606
00:21:19,919 --> 00:21:24,640
level deeper and go you know what kind

607
00:21:22,080 --> 00:21:26,320
of glamour of you what kind of eloquence

608
00:21:24,640 --> 00:21:28,400
are you are you a public speaker or are

609
00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:29,440
you like a rapper for example like

610
00:21:28,400 --> 00:21:31,360
that's

611
00:21:29,440 --> 00:21:33,760
that's off the top of my head so i think

612
00:21:31,360 --> 00:21:35,440
i really love bards for that

613
00:21:33,760 --> 00:21:38,159
flexibility

614
00:21:35,440 --> 00:21:39,200
now mechanically

615
00:21:38,159 --> 00:21:40,880
i would say

616
00:21:39,200 --> 00:21:42,559
because of how kind of tricky they can

617
00:21:40,880 --> 00:21:45,440
be the kind of jack-of-all-trades master

618
00:21:42,559 --> 00:21:47,200
of none squishy

619
00:21:45,440 --> 00:21:48,960
and in some subclasses you have to spec

620
00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,159
quite heavily into a certain play style

621
00:21:48,960 --> 00:21:52,320
to really

622
00:21:50,159 --> 00:21:53,679
get the benefit from

623
00:21:52,320 --> 00:21:55,730
i'm not

624
00:21:53,679 --> 00:21:57,600
too keen on that um

625
00:21:55,730 --> 00:21:58,640
[Music]

626
00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:02,720
but

627
00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:05,039
otherwise i i love the sim the elegance

628
00:22:02,720 --> 00:22:07,200
of barbarians

629
00:22:05,039 --> 00:22:08,640
hopefully that's not two words that you

630
00:22:07,200 --> 00:22:10,880
know elegant and barbarian that people

631
00:22:08,640 --> 00:22:13,520
often hear together but i really i truly

632
00:22:10,880 --> 00:22:14,880
think it's just so

633
00:22:13,520 --> 00:22:17,120
that's my that

634
00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:19,120
a barbarian it's like my comfort class

635
00:22:17,120 --> 00:22:20,400
like it's my i'm going to turn my brain

636
00:22:19,120 --> 00:22:22,159
off and just

637
00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,760
have fun and not have to worry about

638
00:22:22,159 --> 00:22:25,200
spell slots and not have to worry about

639
00:22:23,760 --> 00:22:27,360
being squishy and not have to worry

640
00:22:25,200 --> 00:22:29,120
about uh

641
00:22:27,360 --> 00:22:30,960
positioning or

642
00:22:29,120 --> 00:22:34,159
you could just run in there

643
00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:34,880
yeah and it's it's fun and the stakes

644
00:22:34,159 --> 00:22:36,799
are

645
00:22:34,880 --> 00:22:38,320
lower if you want them to be and stuff

646
00:22:36,799 --> 00:22:40,240
like that whereas with my wizard for

647
00:22:38,320 --> 00:22:41,440
example who's one of the reasons why i

648
00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,039
picked them because of the polar

649
00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:45,200
opposite

650
00:22:43,039 --> 00:22:46,960
it's very much like no he's the most

651
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,480
intelligent so he

652
00:22:46,960 --> 00:22:50,320
has to think about things and has to try

653
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:51,520
and solve puzzles and riddles and think

654
00:22:50,320 --> 00:22:53,360
about the

655
00:22:51,520 --> 00:22:55,520
plan of action and

656
00:22:53,360 --> 00:22:56,559
is a bit mentally draining sometimes so

657
00:22:55,520 --> 00:22:58,159
uh

658
00:22:56,559 --> 00:23:00,400
there you go the two b's bad and

659
00:22:58,159 --> 00:23:03,120
barbarian then if i was to put one for

660
00:23:00,400 --> 00:23:05,280
flavor and one for mechanics

661
00:23:03,120 --> 00:23:07,600
i see those are very good picks i

662
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:09,280
completely forgot about that until you

663
00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:10,520
brought it up and i'm like oh no i think

664
00:23:09,280 --> 00:23:12,799
you're onto something there

665
00:23:10,520 --> 00:23:14,480
[Laughter]

666
00:23:12,799 --> 00:23:15,919
if i had like all the time in the world

667
00:23:14,480 --> 00:23:18,880
and all the games in the world i would

668
00:23:15,919 --> 00:23:20,320
love to try i would make one of each

669
00:23:18,880 --> 00:23:22,320
college

670
00:23:20,320 --> 00:23:23,520
just to yeah just to really explore that

671
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,200
class

672
00:23:23,520 --> 00:23:29,440
and what it can be both mechanically and

673
00:23:27,200 --> 00:23:31,520
from a position of role play

674
00:23:29,440 --> 00:23:33,840
purely because of the

675
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:35,679
of all that all the juice that's there

676
00:23:33,840 --> 00:23:38,159
um i did have an idea once i was going

677
00:23:35,679 --> 00:23:39,039
to have in my campaign

678
00:23:38,159 --> 00:23:42,080
um

679
00:23:39,039 --> 00:23:44,080
i was going to have a bard school

680
00:23:42,080 --> 00:23:45,919
which was kind of set up

681
00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:48,000
where there was a there was like a house

682
00:23:45,919 --> 00:23:51,840
for each of the colleges there

683
00:23:48,000 --> 00:23:54,240
apart from is it shadows uh whispers

684
00:23:51,840 --> 00:23:56,960
whispers thank you um

685
00:23:54,240 --> 00:23:58,720
apart from whispers because there

686
00:23:56,960 --> 00:24:00,080
when you kind of

687
00:23:58,720 --> 00:24:01,520
picked your

688
00:24:00,080 --> 00:24:03,760
what is it your major as they call it

689
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:05,840
over over the seas um when you pick your

690
00:24:03,760 --> 00:24:07,840
major and whispers you don't get

691
00:24:05,840 --> 00:24:08,799
allocated you you get allocate like a

692
00:24:07,840 --> 00:24:11,679
fake

693
00:24:08,799 --> 00:24:12,880
school as fake college to to go into so

694
00:24:11,679 --> 00:24:15,520
like there would just be all these

695
00:24:12,880 --> 00:24:16,799
college of whispers bards seeded around

696
00:24:15,520 --> 00:24:19,440
all the other ones

697
00:24:16,799 --> 00:24:20,960
and i just i like i just love that idea

698
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:22,480
that's actually that's a really fun

699
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,919
concept

700
00:24:22,480 --> 00:24:25,760
yes you'd go into the glamour and

701
00:24:23,919 --> 00:24:27,520
there'd be like all these people

702
00:24:25,760 --> 00:24:30,240
practicing their stage presence and then

703
00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:31,760
they they're you know commanding

704
00:24:30,240 --> 00:24:32,960
eloquence and all this other kind of

705
00:24:31,760 --> 00:24:33,840
stuff and then

706
00:24:32,960 --> 00:24:35,360
maybe

707
00:24:33,840 --> 00:24:37,679
you don't know some maybe some of them

708
00:24:35,360 --> 00:24:39,520
are whispers and maybe their their you

709
00:24:37,679 --> 00:24:41,360
know criteria to pass their college

710
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:43,360
degree is they

711
00:24:41,360 --> 00:24:44,640
can pass the other college degree up

712
00:24:43,360 --> 00:24:46,320
until you know they're marking the

713
00:24:44,640 --> 00:24:48,799
scores and if they can get that far and

714
00:24:46,320 --> 00:24:50,640
no one rumbles them

715
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,720
they they pass

716
00:24:50,640 --> 00:24:53,679
uh so yeah that's that's that's all just

717
00:24:52,720 --> 00:24:55,039
one

718
00:24:53,679 --> 00:24:57,919
this you know

719
00:24:55,039 --> 00:24:59,440
i just spun that out of uh of the bardic

720
00:24:57,919 --> 00:25:02,159
school before which is a little bit more

721
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:04,320
context about why i like that one

722
00:25:02,159 --> 00:25:06,559
yeah that's a really cool idea

723
00:25:04,320 --> 00:25:08,880
i'd also like to pose um because it just

724
00:25:06,559 --> 00:25:12,840
sort of occurred to me

725
00:25:08,880 --> 00:25:14,799
barbarians are kind of the sorcerers of

726
00:25:12,840 --> 00:25:17,840
marshalls oh

727
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:20,159
hello hot hot take a lot

728
00:25:17,840 --> 00:25:21,039
it's just it just sort of it's you sort

729
00:25:20,159 --> 00:25:22,799
of

730
00:25:21,039 --> 00:25:25,440
talking about them

731
00:25:22,799 --> 00:25:27,600
and yeah

732
00:25:25,440 --> 00:25:28,400
um and i've also realized and saying

733
00:25:27,600 --> 00:25:31,520
that

734
00:25:28,400 --> 00:25:35,279
the way i kind of play monks is kind of

735
00:25:31,520 --> 00:25:36,640
uh similar at least to warlocks

736
00:25:35,279 --> 00:25:39,520
which makes sense they get everything

737
00:25:36,640 --> 00:25:41,520
back on a short rest yeah as well

738
00:25:39,520 --> 00:25:43,679
but i know i've had a lot of my concepts

739
00:25:41,520 --> 00:25:45,760
for monks and stuff have been very much

740
00:25:43,679 --> 00:25:47,919
a yeah

741
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:49,919
i found something weird and that has

742
00:25:47,919 --> 00:25:51,360
helped them channel

743
00:25:49,919 --> 00:25:54,080
their like

744
00:25:51,360 --> 00:25:55,279
life energy to do these cool stuff

745
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:57,919
you're gonna have to you're gonna have

746
00:25:55,279 --> 00:25:59,520
to elaborate on the barbarian as

747
00:25:57,919 --> 00:26:01,200
marshall sorcerer is come on give me a

748
00:25:59,520 --> 00:26:02,960
little bit more i can't i can't let you

749
00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:05,360
get away

750
00:26:02,960 --> 00:26:07,360
um well unlike wizards they don't have

751
00:26:05,360 --> 00:26:08,240
to they didn't really have to work for

752
00:26:07,360 --> 00:26:10,480
the

753
00:26:08,240 --> 00:26:12,799
martial prowess they are just

754
00:26:10,480 --> 00:26:14,559
naturally bigger and bulkier and better

755
00:26:12,799 --> 00:26:16,720
than everyone else

756
00:26:14,559 --> 00:26:20,320
yeah that's true they're all about doing

757
00:26:16,720 --> 00:26:23,120
sort of big lots of damage in one go

758
00:26:20,320 --> 00:26:24,960
and also just a lot of the um origins

759
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,720
kind of

760
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:28,000
mesh into each other

761
00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:30,320
quite well you've got like the storm

762
00:26:28,000 --> 00:26:32,960
herald on the storm sorcerer

763
00:26:30,320 --> 00:26:37,440
you've got the

764
00:26:32,960 --> 00:26:40,480
wild soul is it the new magic barbarian

765
00:26:37,440 --> 00:26:42,640
oh yeah yeah um and then you've got the

766
00:26:40,480 --> 00:26:44,320
wild magic sorcerer yeah it's literally

767
00:26:42,640 --> 00:26:46,320
called wild magic that's literally just

768
00:26:44,320 --> 00:26:47,039
like an angry sorcerer that's just like

769
00:26:46,320 --> 00:26:49,279
a

770
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:49,570
it's like a gym head sorcerer

771
00:26:49,279 --> 00:26:51,440
yeah

772
00:26:49,570 --> 00:26:52,799
[Laughter]

773
00:26:51,440 --> 00:26:54,799
yeah i don't know why but for some

774
00:26:52,799 --> 00:26:58,080
reason as well when barbarians get weird

775
00:26:54,799 --> 00:26:58,700
magic stuff it makes more sense

776
00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,400
as well

777
00:26:58,700 --> 00:27:01,919
[Laughter]

778
00:27:00,400 --> 00:27:03,360
yeah i'm just looking at the wild magic

779
00:27:01,919 --> 00:27:04,960
now yep

780
00:27:03,360 --> 00:27:06,480
yeah i do like

781
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:08,159
looking at that subclass list now

782
00:27:06,480 --> 00:27:09,679
they've got zealot in there which is a

783
00:27:08,159 --> 00:27:11,679
little bit paladin

784
00:27:09,679 --> 00:27:13,520
you got a little smite light on there i

785
00:27:11,679 --> 00:27:15,679
think one of them was a beast where you

786
00:27:13,520 --> 00:27:17,120
can take on the totem where you can take

787
00:27:15,679 --> 00:27:19,440
on the features of a

788
00:27:17,120 --> 00:27:20,559
of a creature which is a little bit

789
00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,559
druidy

790
00:27:20,559 --> 00:27:23,919
that's i've only just realized now how

791
00:27:22,559 --> 00:27:25,520
many

792
00:27:23,919 --> 00:27:27,600
how much of those

793
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:29,679
little snapshots of flavors from other

794
00:27:27,600 --> 00:27:30,960
primary classes it's quite a neat little

795
00:27:29,679 --> 00:27:31,840
touch now i'm thinking about it's not

796
00:27:30,960 --> 00:27:33,360
the first time i've ever looked at it

797
00:27:31,840 --> 00:27:35,520
despite having played on to like level

798
00:27:33,360 --> 00:27:37,360
13 before but yeah

799
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,679
good good catch i should think

800
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,200
barbarians as well uh

801
00:27:39,679 --> 00:27:42,159
i know i feel like there's a lot that

802
00:27:41,200 --> 00:27:44,159
you can

803
00:27:42,159 --> 00:27:47,279
riff with

804
00:27:44,159 --> 00:27:49,919
when it comes to their subclasses

805
00:27:47,279 --> 00:27:51,600
because in a simpler way like sorcerers

806
00:27:49,919 --> 00:27:53,840
it's sort of just

807
00:27:51,600 --> 00:27:55,600
kind of innate

808
00:27:53,840 --> 00:27:57,120
like um

809
00:27:55,600 --> 00:27:59,200
i've done

810
00:27:57,120 --> 00:28:00,640
the stormherald one

811
00:27:59,200 --> 00:28:02,320
that's one of those ones that flavor

812
00:28:00,640 --> 00:28:04,720
wise like i saw that and i was like i

813
00:28:02,320 --> 00:28:07,039
have to play one of those at some point

814
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:08,799
i don't know there's nothing cooler i

815
00:28:07,039 --> 00:28:10,559
feel like than

816
00:28:08,799 --> 00:28:11,919
going into a rage and summoning

817
00:28:10,559 --> 00:28:14,480
lightning down

818
00:28:11,919 --> 00:28:16,399
yeah just

819
00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,760
looking at the uh

820
00:28:16,399 --> 00:28:19,520
the wording now

821
00:28:17,760 --> 00:28:22,159
barons you follow the path of the storm

822
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:25,760
herald learn to transform that rage into

823
00:28:22,159 --> 00:28:27,440
a mantle of primal magic yeah that is

824
00:28:25,760 --> 00:28:28,880
where do i sign

825
00:28:27,440 --> 00:28:31,200
yeah exactly

826
00:28:28,880 --> 00:28:34,880
yeah i ended up playing one of those as

827
00:28:31,200 --> 00:28:37,039
like um in a tadourie campaign

828
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:38,720
and they were part of uh one of the

829
00:28:37,039 --> 00:28:40,240
ashari groups

830
00:28:38,720 --> 00:28:41,840
and it was just like hey you seem to

831
00:28:40,240 --> 00:28:43,520
have like a natural affinity or magic

832
00:28:41,840 --> 00:28:46,080
why don't you do

833
00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:47,919
i go on an aramente and it's

834
00:28:46,080 --> 00:28:51,440
and they're like yeah i'm not really

835
00:28:47,919 --> 00:28:53,279
good at magic though it's just

836
00:28:51,440 --> 00:28:55,890
it's just specifically summoning a

837
00:28:53,279 --> 00:28:59,209
lightning

838
00:28:55,890 --> 00:28:59,209
[Music]

839
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:06,399
[Music]

840
00:29:05,120 --> 00:29:07,840
i wanted to

841
00:29:06,399 --> 00:29:09,200
talk a little bit about we've talked a

842
00:29:07,840 --> 00:29:10,640
lot about the classes the flavor of the

843
00:29:09,200 --> 00:29:12,080
different classes and subclasses and

844
00:29:10,640 --> 00:29:14,080
we've alluded to it a couple of times

845
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:16,559
about how that impacts

846
00:29:14,080 --> 00:29:17,679
the wider setting which is obviously a

847
00:29:16,559 --> 00:29:18,880
bit of a

848
00:29:17,679 --> 00:29:20,880
bigger deal than like a completely

849
00:29:18,880 --> 00:29:22,320
homebrew setting where

850
00:29:20,880 --> 00:29:23,919
the gym and the players can work

851
00:29:22,320 --> 00:29:25,039
together to build them in ways that make

852
00:29:23,919 --> 00:29:27,840
sense

853
00:29:25,039 --> 00:29:30,640
i wanted to ask how do those things and

854
00:29:27,840 --> 00:29:33,360
the wider question impact the flavor of

855
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,720
a campaign like what would you

856
00:29:33,360 --> 00:29:36,000
what kind of campaigns have you played

857
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:39,039
and what was the flavor of those

858
00:29:36,000 --> 00:29:40,480
campaigns being and have you found that

859
00:29:39,039 --> 00:29:43,360
some of these more

860
00:29:40,480 --> 00:29:45,360
tasty subclasses have impacted

861
00:29:43,360 --> 00:29:47,600
the vibe of that campaign

862
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:50,240
a lot of the campaigns they've been a

863
00:29:47,600 --> 00:29:52,399
general sort of kitchen sink

864
00:29:50,240 --> 00:29:55,600
uh fantasy

865
00:29:52,399 --> 00:29:58,960
um for the most part but

866
00:29:55,600 --> 00:30:00,480
yeah our sunday game is sort of set in

867
00:29:58,960 --> 00:30:02,640
or at least aesthetically certain

868
00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:05,120
regency era which has definitely

869
00:30:02,640 --> 00:30:07,279
impacted our choices

870
00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:09,840
a lot of us have uh

871
00:30:07,279 --> 00:30:11,039
ended up being even if we're not like

872
00:30:09,840 --> 00:30:13,600
marshall

873
00:30:11,039 --> 00:30:16,480
somewhat dexterous because most of us

874
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:18,240
don't have armor on a lot of the time

875
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,039
oh that you've reminded me that's why i

876
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:19,840
love

877
00:30:19,039 --> 00:30:22,799
uh

878
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:24,880
actually a reason why i do like monks is

879
00:30:22,799 --> 00:30:27,440
not needing weapons or armor yeah you

880
00:30:24,880 --> 00:30:29,440
can just sort of go in a wreck shop

881
00:30:27,440 --> 00:30:30,960
yeah and also for barbarians you don't

882
00:30:29,440 --> 00:30:32,960
need armor so both of those i just love

883
00:30:30,960 --> 00:30:34,880
being like any loot that isn't you know

884
00:30:32,960 --> 00:30:37,039
weapons armor don't care don't need them

885
00:30:34,880 --> 00:30:38,240
weapons and armor a crutch

886
00:30:37,039 --> 00:30:39,679
moving on

887
00:30:38,240 --> 00:30:41,600
sorry to interrupt but you just reminded

888
00:30:39,679 --> 00:30:43,120
me yeah no that's fair when i was an

889
00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,600
arrogant monk and told everyone that

890
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:46,880
they were using crutches for

891
00:30:45,600 --> 00:30:49,440
using

892
00:30:46,880 --> 00:30:51,440
weapons and armor

893
00:30:49,440 --> 00:30:53,360
i think honestly the one that comes up

894
00:30:51,440 --> 00:30:55,360
more when

895
00:30:53,360 --> 00:30:57,279
trying to fit things into a specific

896
00:30:55,360 --> 00:31:00,080
campaign is

897
00:30:57,279 --> 00:31:01,919
race choices and the flavor that's tied

898
00:31:00,080 --> 00:31:03,440
into those

899
00:31:01,919 --> 00:31:05,600
i know a lot of

900
00:31:03,440 --> 00:31:07,200
gm's who will just sort of

901
00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,320
you know like war forge and things like

902
00:31:07,200 --> 00:31:10,159
that there's just a certain point where

903
00:31:08,320 --> 00:31:13,279
there's just like no i can't i don't

904
00:31:10,159 --> 00:31:14,320
want to work that into my world

905
00:31:13,279 --> 00:31:15,760
i i

906
00:31:14,320 --> 00:31:17,120
personally think

907
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:18,399
i know there's a school of thought out

908
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:20,640
there that's like

909
00:31:18,399 --> 00:31:21,840
you should just let that happen and work

910
00:31:20,640 --> 00:31:23,760
with the players and this that and the

911
00:31:21,840 --> 00:31:26,480
other but not everybody has

912
00:31:23,760 --> 00:31:28,799
the time or indeed the players to be

913
00:31:26,480 --> 00:31:29,760
willing yeah exactly to do that

914
00:31:28,799 --> 00:31:31,600
i

915
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:32,480
was in that situation one of the new

916
00:31:31,600 --> 00:31:35,440
players

917
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:37,360
said i want to play this war forged and

918
00:31:35,440 --> 00:31:39,120
i'd be lying if

919
00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,360
i said there weren't times when i

920
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:43,039
regretted allowing that to happen just

921
00:31:41,360 --> 00:31:45,200
because of the

922
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:47,279
implications to the world

923
00:31:45,200 --> 00:31:48,640
um and like

924
00:31:47,279 --> 00:31:49,519
if if the rest of the player characters

925
00:31:48,640 --> 00:31:51,279
have been walking around with the

926
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:53,360
warforged you can't bring in a warforged

927
00:31:51,279 --> 00:31:55,519
or even just a you know a non-sentient

928
00:31:53,360 --> 00:31:57,039
automaton without the dynamic changing

929
00:31:55,519 --> 00:31:59,679
quite substantially

930
00:31:57,039 --> 00:32:01,679
yeah um so there is yeah i can i can

931
00:31:59,679 --> 00:32:04,159
totally see how that works both ways if

932
00:32:01,679 --> 00:32:06,320
given given enough time and a

933
00:32:04,159 --> 00:32:08,080
a collaborative player then yeah

934
00:32:06,320 --> 00:32:09,919
absolutely you can

935
00:32:08,080 --> 00:32:11,840
work and workshop and homebrew to your

936
00:32:09,919 --> 00:32:14,240
heart's content and and answer those

937
00:32:11,840 --> 00:32:16,320
questions of what does this imply to the

938
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:18,799
world but if it's like

939
00:32:16,320 --> 00:32:21,120
here's the setting we're playing in and

940
00:32:18,799 --> 00:32:22,960
bringing in it this like minotaurs for

941
00:32:21,120 --> 00:32:26,720
example l'occidons are just going to

942
00:32:22,960 --> 00:32:29,760
completely upend the economy and

943
00:32:26,720 --> 00:32:31,760
everything yeah i haven't come across

944
00:32:29,760 --> 00:32:32,960
many players at least for games that

945
00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,840
i've ran

946
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:38,080
that want to play those sort of races

947
00:32:35,840 --> 00:32:40,640
and not say that i don't

948
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,880
if you want to play you know a big cool

949
00:32:40,640 --> 00:32:46,240
elephant person that's fine i just i

950
00:32:42,880 --> 00:32:49,039
find it so hard to wrap my head around

951
00:32:46,240 --> 00:32:51,440
just wandering around the world yeah and

952
00:32:49,039 --> 00:32:52,640
i don't know why that is

953
00:32:51,440 --> 00:32:54,799
there's different strokes for different

954
00:32:52,640 --> 00:32:57,039
folks yeah like one of my

955
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,399
one of my players is an older player and

956
00:32:57,039 --> 00:33:00,399
he's played a lot of earlier editions

957
00:32:58,399 --> 00:33:01,440
and whatnot and he uh is very much on

958
00:33:00,399 --> 00:33:03,120
the

959
00:33:01,440 --> 00:33:04,320
side of more

960
00:33:03,120 --> 00:33:05,360
typical

961
00:33:04,320 --> 00:33:07,360
like his

962
00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:10,000
fantasy is more typical fantasy stuff

963
00:33:07,360 --> 00:33:11,120
and i'm catering for my players in my

964
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,960
campaign and we're currently in a

965
00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:16,159
chapter that is more whimsical than it

966
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:18,159
is fantasy so they're at like an a total

967
00:33:16,159 --> 00:33:20,000
island settlement that's like super

968
00:33:18,159 --> 00:33:22,240
chill and there's like a surfing

969
00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,799
competition and a fishing competition

970
00:33:22,240 --> 00:33:27,519
and it's all very you know like golden

971
00:33:24,799 --> 00:33:29,360
sands and nice little in it and he's

972
00:33:27,519 --> 00:33:31,519
like yeah but where am i where's my

973
00:33:29,360 --> 00:33:33,360
dungeons to crawl where's my locks to

974
00:33:31,519 --> 00:33:35,360
pick where am i mix the smash so he's

975
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:36,880
i've said to him like don't worry

976
00:33:35,360 --> 00:33:38,559
there's some future chapters that are a

977
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:39,679
bit more like that if you're right to

978
00:33:38,559 --> 00:33:41,039
you know

979
00:33:39,679 --> 00:33:43,200
kind of grin and bear it to a certain

980
00:33:41,039 --> 00:33:44,559
extent and it's just obviously i'm very

981
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,240
lucky because he's like yeah that's fine

982
00:33:44,559 --> 00:33:48,080
that's cool i just i wouldn't play a

983
00:33:46,240 --> 00:33:48,799
whole campaign like this well thank you

984
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,039
for

985
00:33:48,799 --> 00:33:53,200
joining us for these five associations

986
00:33:51,039 --> 00:33:55,440
that that very much aren't sword and

987
00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:56,799
sorcery but that is just what it is like

988
00:33:55,440 --> 00:33:58,960
different strokes of different folks and

989
00:33:56,799 --> 00:34:01,200
yeah that's totally okay and

990
00:33:58,960 --> 00:34:03,200
what i'm getting is to have a total

991
00:34:01,200 --> 00:34:06,080
settlement that's all like cowabunga

992
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:08,240
dude and surfing and isn't going to fit

993
00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,079
in every setting yeah no absolutely and

994
00:34:08,240 --> 00:34:12,320
to him it's it's

995
00:34:10,079 --> 00:34:15,839
like it isn't d anymore to him it isn't

996
00:34:12,320 --> 00:34:17,599
even you know fantasy ttrpg it's this

997
00:34:15,839 --> 00:34:18,839
weird thing that dan loves put together

998
00:34:17,599 --> 00:34:21,989
in a fever

999
00:34:18,839 --> 00:34:23,440
dream which is partially correct

1000
00:34:21,989 --> 00:34:26,159
[Laughter]

1001
00:34:23,440 --> 00:34:29,119
so yeah that's that's that's totally

1002
00:34:26,159 --> 00:34:31,040
understood like there is there's always

1003
00:34:29,119 --> 00:34:33,040
an impact to the the flavor

1004
00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:35,200
of a campaign

1005
00:34:33,040 --> 00:34:38,159
i had some

1006
00:34:35,200 --> 00:34:40,079
thoughts around now we can't talk about

1007
00:34:38,159 --> 00:34:41,839
flavor without talking about it's

1008
00:34:40,079 --> 00:34:44,320
literal interpretation this is this is

1009
00:34:41,839 --> 00:34:47,280
my little behind the screens

1010
00:34:44,320 --> 00:34:48,639
sneaky peak at my podcast production is

1011
00:34:47,280 --> 00:34:49,839
getting the dictionary definition for

1012
00:34:48,639 --> 00:34:51,839
the topic

1013
00:34:49,839 --> 00:34:53,839
to really ruin the illusion for all my

1014
00:34:51,839 --> 00:34:55,839
listeners at home uh

1015
00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:57,520
is

1016
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:59,520
which provides more material than i'd

1017
00:34:57,520 --> 00:35:00,720
care to admit but for today's topic i

1018
00:34:59,520 --> 00:35:01,599
wanted to talk about a little bit more

1019
00:35:00,720 --> 00:35:03,599
about

1020
00:35:01,599 --> 00:35:04,480
having food and drink

1021
00:35:03,599 --> 00:35:05,839
in

1022
00:35:04,480 --> 00:35:08,880
your games

1023
00:35:05,839 --> 00:35:10,560
so how are those kind of

1024
00:35:08,880 --> 00:35:13,119
typically mundane

1025
00:35:10,560 --> 00:35:16,400
like business as usual daily

1026
00:35:13,119 --> 00:35:18,160
things run in in your games honestly

1027
00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,640
it's something that i've been trying to

1028
00:35:18,160 --> 00:35:22,880
focus on that a little bit more uh the

1029
00:35:20,640 --> 00:35:25,200
current game that i'm running is

1030
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,520
there's not really any sort of form of

1031
00:35:25,200 --> 00:35:28,560
civilization for the players to interact

1032
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,599
with

1033
00:35:28,560 --> 00:35:33,680
but i have been really trying to sort of

1034
00:35:31,599 --> 00:35:36,000
focus them on more of like a like

1035
00:35:33,680 --> 00:35:38,240
survival stuff

1036
00:35:36,000 --> 00:35:41,119
and uh sort of where like food and

1037
00:35:38,240 --> 00:35:44,000
rations and stuff like that come into it

1038
00:35:41,119 --> 00:35:46,320
i know one of our players is taken to

1039
00:35:44,000 --> 00:35:49,119
really trying to make pancakes out of

1040
00:35:46,320 --> 00:35:49,119
their rations

1041
00:35:49,359 --> 00:35:55,680
and how did that turn out

1042
00:35:51,040 --> 00:35:55,680
so far so far not so great um okay

1043
00:35:55,839 --> 00:36:00,480
so far yeah

1044
00:35:57,760 --> 00:36:02,640
considering yeah we all agreed that like

1045
00:36:00,480 --> 00:36:05,200
the russians were sort of like

1046
00:36:02,640 --> 00:36:07,200
hard tech and things like that um

1047
00:36:05,200 --> 00:36:08,960
she'd just be the joker yeah exactly

1048
00:36:07,200 --> 00:36:10,839
she's not really got the best basis to

1049
00:36:08,960 --> 00:36:13,280
work

1050
00:36:10,839 --> 00:36:15,200
with gonna it's gonna be like a tick

1051
00:36:13,280 --> 00:36:16,880
tock video where it's they they try the

1052
00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:18,400
really weird food combinations now it's

1053
00:36:16,880 --> 00:36:20,000
all i've got in my head of like out in

1054
00:36:18,400 --> 00:36:22,960
the field this this character being like

1055
00:36:20,000 --> 00:36:27,040
hey guys i've prepared omelets for us

1056
00:36:22,960 --> 00:36:29,280
and it is literally just like melted

1057
00:36:27,040 --> 00:36:33,040
with with chunks of beef jerky floating

1058
00:36:29,280 --> 00:36:35,200
around in it like barely warm oh no

1059
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,720
but yeah um it's definitely then because

1060
00:36:35,200 --> 00:36:39,760
of that like

1061
00:36:36,720 --> 00:36:41,520
i want to have this sort of like uh

1062
00:36:39,760 --> 00:36:44,000
fanciful foods and things like that come

1063
00:36:41,520 --> 00:36:45,599
up later on is sort of like it was more

1064
00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:47,440
of a reward

1065
00:36:45,599 --> 00:36:50,720
because we have literally just they've

1066
00:36:47,440 --> 00:36:52,880
been fishing and scavenging

1067
00:36:50,720 --> 00:36:54,560
yeah the living the true adventure is

1068
00:36:52,880 --> 00:36:57,599
life exactly

1069
00:36:54,560 --> 00:37:00,880
no uh no good berries then to spoil that

1070
00:36:57,599 --> 00:37:03,520
survival no we have a cleric but i don't

1071
00:37:00,880 --> 00:37:06,240
think they've realized they have

1072
00:37:03,520 --> 00:37:08,000
create food and water okay

1073
00:37:06,240 --> 00:37:09,200
so you know when that comes up it will

1074
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:11,359
come up and

1075
00:37:09,200 --> 00:37:13,200
hopefully they will be sorted but until

1076
00:37:11,359 --> 00:37:14,800
then

1077
00:37:13,200 --> 00:37:17,040
you're happy to keep that yeah that

1078
00:37:14,800 --> 00:37:18,640
one's done for the time being

1079
00:37:17,040 --> 00:37:21,280
they can figure it out it's the same

1080
00:37:18,640 --> 00:37:23,839
with um they've been dealing with um

1081
00:37:21,280 --> 00:37:26,160
they haven't done a lot of like

1082
00:37:23,839 --> 00:37:28,320
analysis over like the monsters they've

1083
00:37:26,160 --> 00:37:30,640
been fighting but like a lot of those

1084
00:37:28,320 --> 00:37:32,079
are undead

1085
00:37:30,640 --> 00:37:34,560
which if any of these players are

1086
00:37:32,079 --> 00:37:37,520
listening they're not undead do not

1087
00:37:34,560 --> 00:37:40,160
do not worry um

1088
00:37:37,520 --> 00:37:41,839
it's just a joke it's just a joke yeah

1089
00:37:40,160 --> 00:37:44,000
and you know we have a cleric who has

1090
00:37:41,839 --> 00:37:46,960
like detect good and evil and

1091
00:37:44,000 --> 00:37:48,720
undead and undead yeah vaporize undead

1092
00:37:46,960 --> 00:37:50,640
yeah yeah

1093
00:37:48,720 --> 00:37:52,960
and i'm just like at some point at some

1094
00:37:50,640 --> 00:37:56,160
point they have to test it really

1095
00:37:52,960 --> 00:37:58,000
surely at some point yeah that's uh

1096
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:59,359
that's so funny because

1097
00:37:58,000 --> 00:38:01,359
one of many players your older character

1098
00:37:59,359 --> 00:38:03,599
is roller paladin and he is dropping

1099
00:38:01,359 --> 00:38:05,040
like detect good and evil

1100
00:38:03,599 --> 00:38:06,400
left right and center at surfing

1101
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:08,400
competition he's like is that surfboard

1102
00:38:06,400 --> 00:38:09,599
evil and i'm not

1103
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,580
doesn't doesn't really work like that

1104
00:38:09,599 --> 00:38:12,480
and also no

1105
00:38:10,580 --> 00:38:14,320
[Laughter]

1106
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,119
yeah it's so funny to me that yours is

1107
00:38:14,320 --> 00:38:16,880
like

1108
00:38:15,119 --> 00:38:18,960
that just doesn't use it at any given

1109
00:38:16,880 --> 00:38:23,200
opportunity no to be fair though this is

1110
00:38:18,960 --> 00:38:25,839
the same cleric um that has befriended a

1111
00:38:23,200 --> 00:38:28,720
vampire elephant so

1112
00:38:25,839 --> 00:38:31,760
yep notoriously friend friendly yeah

1113
00:38:28,720 --> 00:38:34,480
yeah notoriously friendship to be fair

1114
00:38:31,760 --> 00:38:36,960
i had put them as an npc that they could

1115
00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:39,040
make friends with so it was not

1116
00:38:36,960 --> 00:38:41,680
a complete

1117
00:38:39,040 --> 00:38:43,680
completely terrible decision um

1118
00:38:41,680 --> 00:38:45,280
i look forward to seeing how that turns

1119
00:38:43,680 --> 00:38:47,839
out you have to keep me in the loop for

1120
00:38:45,280 --> 00:38:47,839
that one

1121
00:38:48,320 --> 00:38:51,599
do you have any or have you had any in

1122
00:38:50,079 --> 00:38:53,040
your games that you've played in there

1123
00:38:51,599 --> 00:38:54,320
any

1124
00:38:53,040 --> 00:38:55,680
quite modern

1125
00:38:54,320 --> 00:38:57,920
food or modern

1126
00:38:55,680 --> 00:39:00,240
metaphors or

1127
00:38:57,920 --> 00:39:02,480
trophy foods like have you bought in

1128
00:39:00,240 --> 00:39:04,880
like i'm just trying to think of

1129
00:39:02,480 --> 00:39:07,119
an equivalent that is very

1130
00:39:04,880 --> 00:39:08,880
new age that would never have been seen

1131
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:12,160
in the fantasy world

1132
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:14,000
yes and i think that's just a lot of

1133
00:39:12,160 --> 00:39:16,240
people just want something that they can

1134
00:39:14,000 --> 00:39:19,280
sort of get their head around mm-hmm

1135
00:39:16,240 --> 00:39:22,560
relate to yeah uh it's it's a lot easier

1136
00:39:19,280 --> 00:39:25,599
to say oh yeah no this um

1137
00:39:22,560 --> 00:39:28,160
this food stand's got like hot dogs or

1138
00:39:25,599 --> 00:39:29,200
burritos or something than trying to

1139
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:31,200
look up

1140
00:39:29,200 --> 00:39:32,240
medieval fair food

1141
00:39:31,200 --> 00:39:34,560
yeah

1142
00:39:32,240 --> 00:39:37,119
yeah i see that that is me all over i

1143
00:39:34,560 --> 00:39:39,040
very much like using modern

1144
00:39:37,119 --> 00:39:40,480
tropes yeah but

1145
00:39:39,040 --> 00:39:43,440
even just having

1146
00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:45,760
like hot dogs would i i could i can see

1147
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:47,200
crystal clear my in my mind's eye now

1148
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:49,680
that that play i was talking about

1149
00:39:47,200 --> 00:39:51,440
earlier on like visibly cringing down

1150
00:39:49,680 --> 00:39:54,720
discord if i was to be like there's a

1151
00:39:51,440 --> 00:39:54,720
hot dog stand over here be like

1152
00:39:54,960 --> 00:40:00,640
actually ugh as well i don't understand

1153
00:39:57,760 --> 00:40:03,280
sometimes in words where you have like

1154
00:40:00,640 --> 00:40:05,839
the magic equivalent to like our science

1155
00:40:03,280 --> 00:40:07,920
and things to an extent

1156
00:40:05,839 --> 00:40:09,440
why we can't have

1157
00:40:07,920 --> 00:40:10,880
that sort of thing

1158
00:40:09,440 --> 00:40:12,079
necessarily

1159
00:40:10,880 --> 00:40:14,480
yeah it's because it's all about the

1160
00:40:12,079 --> 00:40:16,640
flavor to bring us to bring it the topic

1161
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:17,680
definitely in that's what it is you know

1162
00:40:16,640 --> 00:40:21,520
even if it's

1163
00:40:17,680 --> 00:40:23,680
patently applicable and makes sense and

1164
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:25,680
would work and they you know create food

1165
00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:27,040
and water can create whatever they want

1166
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:28,880
you know it's just not the flavor that

1167
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,480
they're there that's true the flavor

1168
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,880
that they're after but i would also

1169
00:40:30,480 --> 00:40:35,119
argue that using things that people can

1170
00:40:32,880 --> 00:40:38,160
relate to also helps with the flavor

1171
00:40:35,119 --> 00:40:39,280
yeah i completely agree but i mean i

1172
00:40:38,160 --> 00:40:40,800
brought in

1173
00:40:39,280 --> 00:40:42,960
there there is there is a

1174
00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:46,160
a common item in xanathar's guide which

1175
00:40:42,960 --> 00:40:48,720
is like uh orb of time or something like

1176
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:49,680
that and if you look at it it tells them

1177
00:40:48,720 --> 00:40:51,760
it tells you

1178
00:40:49,680 --> 00:40:54,480
like is it morning afternoon

1179
00:40:51,760 --> 00:40:57,520
yeah noon or night and i i just

1180
00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:59,119
re-flavored that wink to be uh what i

1181
00:40:57,520 --> 00:41:02,160
call a chrono band

1182
00:40:59,119 --> 00:41:03,119
aka a watch um because i was like i

1183
00:41:02,160 --> 00:41:04,880
don't

1184
00:41:03,119 --> 00:41:06,079
i don't care like whether you guys know

1185
00:41:04,880 --> 00:41:08,079
the time or not i just always want you

1186
00:41:06,079 --> 00:41:10,640
to know the time so here have a watch

1187
00:41:08,079 --> 00:41:12,800
yeah that's that's a miniaturized orb of

1188
00:41:10,640 --> 00:41:14,319
time in a leather strap that fits around

1189
00:41:12,800 --> 00:41:15,599
your wrist that tells you what the time

1190
00:41:14,319 --> 00:41:18,240
is um

1191
00:41:15,599 --> 00:41:19,520
and that was that was a bit of a cheeky

1192
00:41:18,240 --> 00:41:21,359
grin on my face and i was like here's a

1193
00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:22,800
chrono band and they're like oh what's

1194
00:41:21,359 --> 00:41:24,480
that and i'm like

1195
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:25,839
it's this small little thing that sits

1196
00:41:24,480 --> 00:41:27,280
on your wrist around the leather strap

1197
00:41:25,839 --> 00:41:29,520
and has notches in it that can tighten

1198
00:41:27,280 --> 00:41:33,440
the strap and they're like have you

1199
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:35,119
you just grabbing a watch maybe i am

1200
00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:37,359
and that is how i abuse my power as the

1201
00:41:35,119 --> 00:41:38,800
dm uh

1202
00:41:37,359 --> 00:41:41,599
i mean i think that you know as far as

1203
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:43,599
like uh dm abusing power i think that's

1204
00:41:41,599 --> 00:41:45,839
a pretty good way to go about it a

1205
00:41:43,599 --> 00:41:47,440
benign way of doing it yeah

1206
00:41:45,839 --> 00:41:51,280
okay

1207
00:41:47,440 --> 00:41:52,160
good i'll take that i'll take that um

1208
00:41:51,280 --> 00:41:55,839
uh

1209
00:41:52,160 --> 00:41:59,119
here's a here's a spicy question

1210
00:41:55,839 --> 00:41:59,119
i was really proud of when i thought

1211
00:42:00,319 --> 00:42:04,400
obviously when it comes to food and

1212
00:42:02,240 --> 00:42:08,000
drink in the universe

1213
00:42:04,400 --> 00:42:09,359
it is the gm's job as it is with every

1214
00:42:08,000 --> 00:42:13,040
other

1215
00:42:09,359 --> 00:42:13,839
sense in in the game to describe it so

1216
00:42:13,040 --> 00:42:15,760
when

1217
00:42:13,839 --> 00:42:18,319
player characters enter a room it looks

1218
00:42:15,760 --> 00:42:20,240
like this you can hear running water it

1219
00:42:18,319 --> 00:42:24,960
smells musty

1220
00:42:20,240 --> 00:42:26,800
blah blah blah the same is said for food

1221
00:42:24,960 --> 00:42:28,240
however

1222
00:42:26,800 --> 00:42:31,280
describing

1223
00:42:28,240 --> 00:42:32,960
flavor is like inherently

1224
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:34,640
subjective and again something that all

1225
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:36,480
humans are very very very you know

1226
00:42:34,640 --> 00:42:37,760
intimately aware of like i don't like

1227
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:40,000
cheese

1228
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:42,000
which many people find abhorrent because

1229
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,599
everybody loves cheese yeah that is a

1230
00:42:42,000 --> 00:42:44,880
bit of a weird one

1231
00:42:43,599 --> 00:42:45,839
yeah

1232
00:42:44,880 --> 00:42:47,280
i shouldn't have opened that door

1233
00:42:45,839 --> 00:42:48,560
because yeah

1234
00:42:47,280 --> 00:42:51,280
let me just double down and say i do

1235
00:42:48,560 --> 00:42:54,160
actually like most pizzas just to really

1236
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:56,480
uh make things weird

1237
00:42:54,160 --> 00:42:57,760
but not regular cheese um

1238
00:42:56,480 --> 00:43:00,960
so if i you know

1239
00:42:57,760 --> 00:43:02,720
trying to describe food to a player

1240
00:43:00,960 --> 00:43:04,640
character

1241
00:43:02,720 --> 00:43:07,119
isn't that some almost like a form of

1242
00:43:04,640 --> 00:43:09,119
railroading because you're telling

1243
00:43:07,119 --> 00:43:12,480
that player character what

1244
00:43:09,119 --> 00:43:15,040
is nice or not nice like oh here's a

1245
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:16,720
hot delicious hearty stew that's you

1246
00:43:15,040 --> 00:43:18,480
know you've got all the flavors and the

1247
00:43:16,720 --> 00:43:19,760
smells and it's it's making your mouth

1248
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:22,240
water and it's it's this that and the

1249
00:43:19,760 --> 00:43:23,920
other which i i feel is probably

1250
00:43:22,240 --> 00:43:26,800
something many many many gm's have done

1251
00:43:23,920 --> 00:43:29,040
because it's part and parcel of yeah

1252
00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:30,560
selling a scene

1253
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:31,760
but then to me that just strikes me i

1254
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:33,839
just thought like isn't that not a

1255
00:43:31,760 --> 00:43:34,960
little bit like your character likes

1256
00:43:33,839 --> 00:43:36,240
stew

1257
00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:37,920
yeah

1258
00:43:36,240 --> 00:43:38,880
yeah i think that's definitely why i

1259
00:43:37,920 --> 00:43:42,400
sort of

1260
00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:44,000
will use modern equivalencies more than

1261
00:43:42,400 --> 00:43:47,200
saying

1262
00:43:44,000 --> 00:43:49,040
this is good and this is bad because

1263
00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:51,680
yeah then the players can decide

1264
00:43:49,040 --> 00:43:53,680
themselves unless it's sort of

1265
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:55,440
magical vision drink and then i don't

1266
00:43:53,680 --> 00:43:57,920
really have so much of a problem saying

1267
00:43:55,440 --> 00:44:00,319
oh this tastes amazing because

1268
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:02,160
well yeah you spent like 5 000 gold on

1269
00:44:00,319 --> 00:44:05,280
this

1270
00:44:02,160 --> 00:44:06,640
magical plate it tastes like stardust

1271
00:44:05,280 --> 00:44:08,319
you can you can imagine what star does

1272
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:10,560
taste like yeah

1273
00:44:08,319 --> 00:44:13,520
like at a certain point like

1274
00:44:10,560 --> 00:44:16,240
it'd just be really terrible if you you

1275
00:44:13,520 --> 00:44:18,319
cast you know um heroes feast or

1276
00:44:16,240 --> 00:44:22,079
whatever and you just got like the worst

1277
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:24,000
food imaginable yeah oh god that's

1278
00:44:22,079 --> 00:44:26,400
that's that's that's a bad abuse of dm

1279
00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:28,400
power yeah

1280
00:44:26,400 --> 00:44:31,119
heroes feast which is a sick

1281
00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:33,040
spell that is great

1282
00:44:31,119 --> 00:44:34,560
one reason i love it is because it's

1283
00:44:33,040 --> 00:44:36,800
not only a mechanical benefit but also

1284
00:44:34,560 --> 00:44:38,480
enables like hella role play as well in

1285
00:44:36,800 --> 00:44:41,200
one single spell

1286
00:44:38,480 --> 00:44:42,800
yeah uh i and i that's i love that one

1287
00:44:41,200 --> 00:44:44,720
because it's like here's a great someone

1288
00:44:42,800 --> 00:44:46,560
is casting a spell in game that is

1289
00:44:44,720 --> 00:44:47,280
making the players out of game

1290
00:44:46,560 --> 00:44:49,119
do

1291
00:44:47,280 --> 00:44:50,560
role play it's like brilliant he's doing

1292
00:44:49,119 --> 00:44:51,920
my job for me now at this point i don't

1293
00:44:50,560 --> 00:44:53,680
just sit back and

1294
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:55,680
someone else is running the show you

1295
00:44:53,680 --> 00:44:57,280
just give them like a timeout button

1296
00:44:55,680 --> 00:44:58,800
yeah

1297
00:44:57,280 --> 00:45:01,280
i love that station of course it's so

1298
00:44:58,800 --> 00:45:03,200
obvious now like just just i mean apart

1299
00:45:01,280 --> 00:45:04,720
from obviously it might

1300
00:45:03,200 --> 00:45:05,680
break the fourth wall a little bit for

1301
00:45:04,720 --> 00:45:08,000
certain

1302
00:45:05,680 --> 00:45:10,880
players that they're using

1303
00:45:08,000 --> 00:45:12,880
real world analogies for food but yeah

1304
00:45:10,880 --> 00:45:14,000
absolutely sidesteps that issue of like

1305
00:45:12,880 --> 00:45:15,440
how can i

1306
00:45:14,000 --> 00:45:17,760
describe

1307
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,880
this thing i guess you could stick to

1308
00:45:17,760 --> 00:45:20,319
dry

1309
00:45:18,880 --> 00:45:21,920
descriptors like

1310
00:45:20,319 --> 00:45:24,720
the ones which aren't a motive so like

1311
00:45:21,920 --> 00:45:27,280
hit you know here's it is a warm

1312
00:45:24,720 --> 00:45:29,920
liquid dish with meat and vegetables in

1313
00:45:27,280 --> 00:45:31,119
it and then let let the players you know

1314
00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:33,200
i guess you could just use that as a

1315
00:45:31,119 --> 00:45:35,040
prime opportunity to be like what does

1316
00:45:33,200 --> 00:45:36,880
your character feel about this i guess

1317
00:45:35,040 --> 00:45:39,520
you could use that in like a session one

1318
00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:41,760
classic tavern meet up food get served

1319
00:45:39,520 --> 00:45:43,280
classic like does your character like

1320
00:45:41,760 --> 00:45:45,359
this kind of food you could even ask

1321
00:45:43,280 --> 00:45:47,200
that to a newer player to be like

1322
00:45:45,359 --> 00:45:48,720
yeah start thinking about what your

1323
00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:51,280
character likes and doesn't like because

1324
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:53,440
then it saves me having to build it

1325
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:54,480
i just think a good way of sort of doing

1326
00:45:53,440 --> 00:45:56,560
it is

1327
00:45:54,480 --> 00:45:58,319
just to ask the player what they've

1328
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,599
ordered like oh you've been able to

1329
00:45:58,319 --> 00:46:03,200
afford like a modest meal

1330
00:46:01,599 --> 00:46:04,640
what have you ordered

1331
00:46:03,200 --> 00:46:06,480
because

1332
00:46:04,640 --> 00:46:08,480
and unless they're like a

1333
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:09,839
masochist they're not going to order

1334
00:46:08,480 --> 00:46:12,079
something they don't like they don't

1335
00:46:09,839 --> 00:46:14,079
like yeah yeah yeah i was just thinking

1336
00:46:12,079 --> 00:46:15,280
that like you took you must have been

1337
00:46:14,079 --> 00:46:17,119
reading my brain because i was thinking

1338
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,079
like what what class what kind of

1339
00:46:17,119 --> 00:46:19,520
character would i build where they

1340
00:46:18,079 --> 00:46:21,040
deliberately order something they don't

1341
00:46:19,520 --> 00:46:22,240
like as like a form of penance or

1342
00:46:21,040 --> 00:46:24,400
something like

1343
00:46:22,240 --> 00:46:26,240
i don't know no i'll i'll take the dry

1344
00:46:24,400 --> 00:46:28,960
bread please the bread and water and

1345
00:46:26,240 --> 00:46:30,800
nothing else uh that'd be five gold yeah

1346
00:46:28,960 --> 00:46:32,960
that's fine that's

1347
00:46:30,800 --> 00:46:34,960
how i live my life that's great that is

1348
00:46:32,960 --> 00:46:36,800
fantastic role play opportunity i

1349
00:46:34,960 --> 00:46:38,079
i have done the whole like

1350
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,800
starter tavern

1351
00:46:38,079 --> 00:46:40,640
the

1352
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,880
the server comes over and says what are

1353
00:46:40,640 --> 00:46:45,119
you ordering and that's

1354
00:46:42,880 --> 00:46:46,319
yeah as you said like a classic like oh

1355
00:46:45,119 --> 00:46:47,760
i've never thought about what my

1356
00:46:46,319 --> 00:46:50,160
character likes to drink before and i

1357
00:46:47,760 --> 00:46:51,200
guess one step the next logical leap in

1358
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:52,960
that is

1359
00:46:51,200 --> 00:46:54,319
you know why is it that

1360
00:46:52,960 --> 00:46:56,160
you know how does it taste to your

1361
00:46:54,319 --> 00:46:58,240
character why do they like it so on and

1362
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,760
so forth is something to

1363
00:46:58,240 --> 00:47:00,800
really think about and really flesh out

1364
00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:02,880
those

1365
00:47:00,800 --> 00:47:04,720
those characters quite early on yeah

1366
00:47:02,880 --> 00:47:07,599
quite a nice solution i definitely

1367
00:47:04,720 --> 00:47:10,800
prefer as well asking them then getting

1368
00:47:07,599 --> 00:47:12,960
a massive list of options

1369
00:47:10,800 --> 00:47:15,119
um as a player i've had the massive list

1370
00:47:12,960 --> 00:47:17,599
of options and i'm like i sort of start

1371
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,640
to tune out after

1372
00:47:17,599 --> 00:47:23,280
three items in and i'm i just

1373
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,280
add that one i guess yeah

1374
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:27,440
again you've read my mind um you should

1375
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:30,160
host a show because my next question was

1376
00:47:27,440 --> 00:47:32,200
going to be how do you like

1377
00:47:30,160 --> 00:47:35,040
do you often improvise in those

1378
00:47:32,200 --> 00:47:37,359
situation menu or do you just have a

1379
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:38,880
list of things or do you

1380
00:47:37,359 --> 00:47:40,640
not do either and just let the players

1381
00:47:38,880 --> 00:47:42,160
pick but then it's kind of like any it's

1382
00:47:40,640 --> 00:47:43,280
almost like analysis paralysis the

1383
00:47:42,160 --> 00:47:46,240
players don't really know what's

1384
00:47:43,280 --> 00:47:48,000
available at this kind of place

1385
00:47:46,240 --> 00:47:49,599
how do you you know when you when you're

1386
00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:52,000
doing that i think i've played and

1387
00:47:49,599 --> 00:47:54,000
probably done as a all

1388
00:47:52,000 --> 00:47:55,200
three varieties but what are your

1389
00:47:54,000 --> 00:47:56,480
thoughts on

1390
00:47:55,200 --> 00:47:58,160
having that you know they sat down at a

1391
00:47:56,480 --> 00:48:01,040
tavern a person comes over and says what

1392
00:47:58,160 --> 00:48:03,760
do you want and they go what do you have

1393
00:48:01,040 --> 00:48:06,720
do you stop it as the dm ago you pick or

1394
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:08,800
do you have the server say we have

1395
00:48:06,720 --> 00:48:11,599
food

1396
00:48:08,800 --> 00:48:14,240
um i think generally i would keep to

1397
00:48:11,599 --> 00:48:16,000
like maybe like a chef special or meal

1398
00:48:14,240 --> 00:48:17,920
of the day sort of thing

1399
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and otherwise it's sort of free range

1400
00:48:17,920 --> 00:48:22,000
for the players that want to go outside

1401
00:48:19,760 --> 00:48:23,920
of that and the people who are like

1402
00:48:22,000 --> 00:48:25,440
oh i hadn't actually considered and i

1403
00:48:23,920 --> 00:48:26,720
don't want to spend half an hour trying

1404
00:48:25,440 --> 00:48:28,640
to work out

1405
00:48:26,720 --> 00:48:30,480
yeah um

1406
00:48:28,640 --> 00:48:33,040
what i'm going to eat

1407
00:48:30,480 --> 00:48:34,720
i get oh actually boom great idea and

1408
00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:36,079
that then it makes just like the way you

1409
00:48:34,720 --> 00:48:37,440
said earlier that you wanted to keep

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00:48:36,079 --> 00:48:38,720
those main meals it's like special

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occurrences

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00:48:38,720 --> 00:48:41,920
it

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00:48:39,599 --> 00:48:44,319
lends greater importance to

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00:48:41,920 --> 00:48:46,880
if they go to a new place and the maitre

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00:48:44,319 --> 00:48:50,000
d comes over and says well today we have

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00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:51,920
xyz abcdef

1417
00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:54,160
then they're like whoa this place is

1418
00:48:51,920 --> 00:48:55,440
it's fantastic business yeah like this

1419
00:48:54,160 --> 00:48:56,640
is these are some really important

1420
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:58,480
dishes that i want to think about

1421
00:48:56,640 --> 00:49:01,040
whereas if that's happened every tavern

1422
00:48:58,480 --> 00:49:02,240
they've gone to yeah it's no it's not oh

1423
00:49:01,040 --> 00:49:04,319
this is another place it's there too

1424
00:49:02,240 --> 00:49:05,280
that i have to try and hold 10 items in

1425
00:49:04,319 --> 00:49:07,760
my head

1426
00:49:05,280 --> 00:49:09,680
as i pick what thing i want

1427
00:49:07,760 --> 00:49:11,280
yeah it definitely can be a good way to

1428
00:49:09,680 --> 00:49:13,040
like um

1429
00:49:11,280 --> 00:49:14,319
if you've got a very rough and tumble

1430
00:49:13,040 --> 00:49:16,800
party

1431
00:49:14,319 --> 00:49:19,599
to end up sticking them in like

1432
00:49:16,800 --> 00:49:21,920
a formal situation and be make them

1433
00:49:19,599 --> 00:49:22,880
aware that they're in a formal situation

1434
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:24,720
and

1435
00:49:22,880 --> 00:49:27,520
here are your options oh can i have this

1436
00:49:24,720 --> 00:49:28,960
no you can have what's on the menu

1437
00:49:27,520 --> 00:49:30,559
yes

1438
00:49:28,960 --> 00:49:33,359
no sir we don't we don't do that here

1439
00:49:30,559 --> 00:49:33,359
i'm afraid

1440
00:49:33,520 --> 00:49:37,200
uh i had um

1441
00:49:35,280 --> 00:49:38,319
one of my newer players they've they

1442
00:49:37,200 --> 00:49:39,920
rolled a monk

1443
00:49:38,319 --> 00:49:41,680
where the ascendant dragon or whatever

1444
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,440
it is and um

1445
00:49:41,680 --> 00:49:45,119
actually i must admit i did i did what

1446
00:49:43,440 --> 00:49:46,480
we've just discussed they went into a

1447
00:49:45,119 --> 00:49:47,680
tavern then i

1448
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,680
mainly because it was nearing the end of

1449
00:49:47,680 --> 00:49:52,319
the session mainly because i'm lazy i

1450
00:49:49,680 --> 00:49:53,760
was like yeah you know order someone

1451
00:49:52,319 --> 00:49:56,079
someone comes over to take your order

1452
00:49:53,760 --> 00:49:59,839
there's only so many times you can

1453
00:49:56,079 --> 00:50:03,280
improvise another server a bar or tavern

1454
00:49:59,839 --> 00:50:05,280
that you know the 50th time no one

1455
00:50:03,280 --> 00:50:06,640
really needs to know unless you'll

1456
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,400
you've got some specific thing you're

1457
00:50:06,640 --> 00:50:10,319
trying to sell like

1458
00:50:08,400 --> 00:50:11,440
the flavor of the venue or

1459
00:50:10,319 --> 00:50:13,599
bish bash bosh if it's your

1460
00:50:11,440 --> 00:50:15,280
run-of-the-mill stuff yeah anyway so

1461
00:50:13,599 --> 00:50:17,119
that that monk was like they went around

1462
00:50:15,280 --> 00:50:18,079
yeah five ales and he was like no

1463
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,599
actually

1464
00:50:18,079 --> 00:50:20,960
do you have any tea

1465
00:50:19,599 --> 00:50:22,880
and that was a really nice like the

1466
00:50:20,960 --> 00:50:24,880
whole table was like oh this is because

1467
00:50:22,880 --> 00:50:27,040
he was he's relatively new in universe

1468
00:50:24,880 --> 00:50:28,559
as well to a couple of them and then

1469
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:30,079
everyone was like oh you

1470
00:50:28,559 --> 00:50:31,520
you he's like yeah yeah have you got any

1471
00:50:30,079 --> 00:50:33,200
you know it's like green teas you've got

1472
00:50:31,520 --> 00:50:36,400
fruit tea i really needed to like center

1473
00:50:33,200 --> 00:50:37,760
my chee and this certainly was like ah i

1474
00:50:36,400 --> 00:50:41,599
feel kind of bad for smashing a couple

1475
00:50:37,760 --> 00:50:43,599
of pints now at 2pm next to this guy

1476
00:50:41,599 --> 00:50:44,800
a really elegant like

1477
00:50:43,599 --> 00:50:47,680
roleplay

1478
00:50:44,800 --> 00:50:49,359
uh character development thing yeah

1479
00:50:47,680 --> 00:50:50,559
so i was like oh yeah we can do and then

1480
00:50:49,359 --> 00:50:52,160
on the way out of town he was like oh

1481
00:50:50,559 --> 00:50:54,079
down low can we can i go somewhere

1482
00:50:52,160 --> 00:50:56,800
before we leave town and buy like a tea

1483
00:50:54,079 --> 00:50:58,800
set so i can kind of make my own on the

1484
00:50:56,800 --> 00:51:00,559
road i was like yeah absolutely that's a

1485
00:50:58,800 --> 00:51:01,680
i love that idea for your character to

1486
00:51:00,559 --> 00:51:03,760
be like

1487
00:51:01,680 --> 00:51:04,720
in the front lines zoom zipping around

1488
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:07,359
the map

1489
00:51:04,720 --> 00:51:09,119
dropping like 50 hits on an enemy with

1490
00:51:07,359 --> 00:51:11,119
like this delicate little tea set

1491
00:51:09,119 --> 00:51:14,319
clanking around like in a little pattern

1492
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:17,040
oh yeah amazing that which is like great

1493
00:51:14,319 --> 00:51:18,720
you know when they you know you you

1494
00:51:17,040 --> 00:51:20,880
the martial artists train and they have

1495
00:51:18,720 --> 00:51:22,400
to like have one hand holding a vars or

1496
00:51:20,880 --> 00:51:24,720
something on the other hand it has to

1497
00:51:22,400 --> 00:51:26,559
defend from attackers i kind of had that

1498
00:51:24,720 --> 00:51:28,559
image in my head of him

1499
00:51:26,559 --> 00:51:30,960
holding this this tea set while having

1500
00:51:28,559 --> 00:51:33,359
to defend and like

1501
00:51:30,960 --> 00:51:35,760
like hit all these enemies

1502
00:51:33,359 --> 00:51:37,599
and that that was some pure i didn't

1503
00:51:35,760 --> 00:51:38,600
give them a menu and that's what came

1504
00:51:37,599 --> 00:51:41,520
out of it so

1505
00:51:38,600 --> 00:51:42,640
[Laughter]

1506
00:51:41,520 --> 00:51:45,440
is there anything else you want to talk

1507
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:46,559
about that we haven't got to yet

1508
00:51:45,440 --> 00:51:49,599
yes

1509
00:51:46,559 --> 00:51:50,880
one of the cool things that i find about

1510
00:51:49,599 --> 00:51:53,280
flavor and

1511
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:55,040
sort of the tricks that come with

1512
00:51:53,280 --> 00:51:56,800
certain things

1513
00:51:55,040 --> 00:51:58,400
is

1514
00:51:56,800 --> 00:51:59,520
ignoring it and doing the complete

1515
00:51:58,400 --> 00:52:01,119
opposite

1516
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:04,640
which i think is an important important

1517
00:52:01,119 --> 00:52:08,640
part of flavor is to give you this here

1518
00:52:04,640 --> 00:52:08,640
is the usual and you go no

1519
00:52:08,720 --> 00:52:15,760
i played a

1520
00:52:10,480 --> 00:52:18,240
dampier for what a g dragon heist um

1521
00:52:15,760 --> 00:52:21,040
that was basically my character concept

1522
00:52:18,240 --> 00:52:24,079
and i played a

1523
00:52:21,040 --> 00:52:26,559
warm and fuzzy hearth cleric

1524
00:52:24,079 --> 00:52:27,440
who just also happened to be a dampier

1525
00:52:26,559 --> 00:52:29,760
okay

1526
00:52:27,440 --> 00:52:29,760
um

1527
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:33,280
and yeah i think that's sort of an

1528
00:52:31,760 --> 00:52:34,800
important part that

1529
00:52:33,280 --> 00:52:37,280
flavor like

1530
00:52:34,800 --> 00:52:39,520
plays into

1531
00:52:37,280 --> 00:52:41,680
or at least like forces players to

1532
00:52:39,520 --> 00:52:43,280
consider is

1533
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:45,280
whether they want to use that or if they

1534
00:52:43,280 --> 00:52:46,800
just want to completely ignore it which

1535
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,319
is

1536
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,559
i think why i don't get on with some of

1537
00:52:48,319 --> 00:52:52,400
the ones that just don't give me any of

1538
00:52:50,559 --> 00:52:53,280
that

1539
00:52:52,400 --> 00:52:54,559
yeah

1540
00:52:53,280 --> 00:52:55,599
i love

1541
00:52:54,559 --> 00:52:58,319
so many

1542
00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:00,160
spicy takes tonight from from yourself

1543
00:52:58,319 --> 00:53:02,240
they're like here's a slogan and just

1544
00:53:00,160 --> 00:53:03,839
flip it on its head

1545
00:53:02,240 --> 00:53:05,839
yeah

1546
00:53:03,839 --> 00:53:07,760
that's that's how i've run a lot of my

1547
00:53:05,839 --> 00:53:09,200
campaign it's that poor player has had

1548
00:53:07,760 --> 00:53:10,960
to grin and bear it a couple of times

1549
00:53:09,200 --> 00:53:13,200
actually

1550
00:53:10,960 --> 00:53:14,559
because i do love having those

1551
00:53:13,200 --> 00:53:16,160
tropes

1552
00:53:14,559 --> 00:53:19,280
subverted and the listeners of the show

1553
00:53:16,160 --> 00:53:21,040
will know that's that's my go-to um

1554
00:53:19,280 --> 00:53:23,280
because i just think it's a it's just

1555
00:53:21,040 --> 00:53:26,079
funny to to surprise and to have these

1556
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,319
these modern trappings in air ostensibly

1557
00:53:26,079 --> 00:53:29,520
quote-unquote fantasy world and so the

1558
00:53:28,319 --> 00:53:32,400
same can be said yeah absolutely for

1559
00:53:29,520 --> 00:53:33,599
those those kind of class and uh lineage

1560
00:53:32,400 --> 00:53:34,640
combinations

1561
00:53:33,599 --> 00:53:38,079
yeah

1562
00:53:34,640 --> 00:53:41,920
cool well that pretty much uh brings us

1563
00:53:38,079 --> 00:53:44,240
to the end of today's show in which case

1564
00:53:41,920 --> 00:53:45,200
do you have anything you would like to

1565
00:53:44,240 --> 00:53:47,520
promote

1566
00:53:45,200 --> 00:53:51,680
i guess i'd like to promote my twitter

1567
00:53:47,520 --> 00:53:54,480
which is at the underscore home bakery

1568
00:53:51,680 --> 00:53:58,720
which has most of the links to

1569
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:59,920
everywhere i am and also i have

1570
00:53:58,720 --> 00:54:01,760
a

1571
00:53:59,920 --> 00:54:03,200
new piece of content coming out at the

1572
00:54:01,760 --> 00:54:06,400
end of the month

1573
00:54:03,200 --> 00:54:08,079
uh which is a magic shop

1574
00:54:06,400 --> 00:54:10,800
the adoption armory and that's where you

1575
00:54:08,079 --> 00:54:13,359
can get a lovely sentient items

1576
00:54:10,800 --> 00:54:14,720
awesome amazing so it's not funny enough

1577
00:54:13,359 --> 00:54:17,760
i was

1578
00:54:14,720 --> 00:54:20,400
looking for cursed items which

1579
00:54:17,760 --> 00:54:22,880
sometimes a sentient as well

1580
00:54:20,400 --> 00:54:25,200
and i found the list of you know

1581
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:29,040
out-of-the-box ones from the dmg and

1582
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:30,800
stuff yeah quite quite lacking so

1583
00:54:29,040 --> 00:54:33,440
this is good timing for me not for my

1584
00:54:30,800 --> 00:54:34,960
players unfortunately for them but

1585
00:54:33,440 --> 00:54:37,839
there are yeah there are a couple of

1586
00:54:34,960 --> 00:54:39,119
cast ones in there so

1587
00:54:37,839 --> 00:54:40,160
might be able to find something that you

1588
00:54:39,119 --> 00:54:42,880
like

1589
00:54:40,160 --> 00:54:45,119
perfect well thank you very much so uh

1590
00:54:42,880 --> 00:54:46,799
all that's left to say is

1591
00:54:45,119 --> 00:54:49,200
uh thank you ever so much fruits that's

1592
00:54:46,799 --> 00:54:51,359
a a lot of fun thank you so much for

1593
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,000
having me this has been great

1594
00:54:51,359 --> 00:54:57,119
awesome not a problem at all thank you

1595
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:59,920
to everybody for listening at home as

1596
00:54:57,119 --> 00:55:01,839
usual please do check out all of the

1597
00:54:59,920 --> 00:55:04,160
home bakeries stuff is it is on dm's

1598
00:55:01,839 --> 00:55:06,400
guild a few bits and bobs um no most of

1599
00:55:04,160 --> 00:55:08,079
it's actually on it show or

1600
00:55:06,400 --> 00:55:10,720
drive through rpg

1601
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:12,640
yes yes yes yes i i don't like giving

1602
00:55:10,720 --> 00:55:15,359
the way my the rights to the stuff that

1603
00:55:12,640 --> 00:55:19,440
i make which you have to do with dmct so

1604
00:55:15,359 --> 00:55:21,839
ah i'm super naive so no so

1605
00:55:19,440 --> 00:55:25,599
so please please do check out all uh the

1606
00:55:21,839 --> 00:55:27,280
homebakery stuff on hio and drive

1607
00:55:25,599 --> 00:55:28,319
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1608
00:55:27,280 --> 00:55:29,760
and thank you all for listening home

1609
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:32,400
please do check out everything in the

1610
00:55:29,760 --> 00:55:34,480
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1611
00:55:32,400 --> 00:55:36,640
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1612
00:55:34,480 --> 00:55:38,319
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00:55:36,640 --> 00:55:40,559
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1614
00:55:38,319 --> 00:55:42,319
otherwise thank you all for listening

1615
00:55:40,559 --> 00:55:43,920
and good night

1616
00:55:42,319 --> 00:55:44,799
and now it's time for the patreon shout

1617
00:55:43,920 --> 00:55:46,960
outs

1618
00:55:44,799 --> 00:55:50,079
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1619
00:55:46,960 --> 00:55:53,040
dm for viva la dirt league and writer on

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00:55:50,079 --> 00:55:54,559
the d d logic web series

1621
00:55:53,040 --> 00:55:57,359
i would encourage everybody to check him

1622
00:55:54,559 --> 00:55:58,400
out at robert hartley gm on twitter and

1623
00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:00,640
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1624
00:55:58,400 --> 00:56:03,119
thank you to optional rule a two time

1625
00:56:00,640 --> 00:56:05,839
guest of the show and a very insightful

1626
00:56:03,119 --> 00:56:07,119
and knowledgeable source of information

1627
00:56:05,839 --> 00:56:10,119
please check them out at

1628
00:56:07,119 --> 00:56:10,119
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1629
00:56:10,559 --> 00:56:15,839
huge huge huge thank you to a great

1630
00:56:13,359 --> 00:56:18,319
friend of the show matthew perkins who's

1631
00:56:15,839 --> 00:56:20,720
out there making hilarious and

1632
00:56:18,319 --> 00:56:22,520
educational dungeons and dragons content

1633
00:56:20,720 --> 00:56:24,240
please go and check out his stuff at

1634
00:56:22,520 --> 00:56:26,640
matthewperkins.net where you can find

1635
00:56:24,240 --> 00:56:28,160
links to all of his socials and all of

1636
00:56:26,640 --> 00:56:29,839
his content including his own patreon

1637
00:56:28,160 --> 00:56:31,680
which i would very much encourage you to

1638
00:56:29,839 --> 00:56:34,559
check out

1639
00:56:31,680 --> 00:56:36,480
thank you to matt street at mpstreet88

1640
00:56:34,559 --> 00:56:37,760
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1641
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I am a 26-year-old Queer Creator trying to put as much fun and flavour as I can into 5th Edition Dungeons and Dragons content.