March 25, 2022

Assemble


This episode stars Michael Kesavan, a.k.a. Dead Aussie Gamer, to talk about assembling the best game. Turns out, diversity and versatility are key, both in-universe and out of game. The types of players you have, and the characters they share, creates a unique social biome where we seek acceptance. DAG also takes us through some tips on starting a campaign, and why the negative perception of "starting in a tavern" is misguided.

  • 3:02 - What if I Told You we were Putting a Team Together?
  • 13:07 - The Social Biome
  • 23:50 - Scheduling: The IRL BBEG
  • 31:18 - Bringing People Together
  • 42:42 - Everything is Connected
  • 56:16 - Be Yourself

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Transcript

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welcome thinkers to season three episode

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22 of thinking critically today's topic

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is assemble

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episode later anyway on with the show

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[Music]

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[Applause]

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[Music]

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and today i'm joined by michael the dead

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aussie gamer thank you ever so much for

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joining us today michael can you tell us

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a little bit about yourself g'day yeah

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thanks for uh for having me on my name's

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michael i'm the dead aussie gamer i'm a

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professional entertainer and uh game

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master from western australia and i uh

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yeah i go about the internet uh lurking

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on people's channels uh finding a way to

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weasel myself into games and onto tables

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um and of course uh dealing out those

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sweet sweet d d rules uh for all the

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people online as well as some local

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youngsters here in australia yeah i

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consider myself to be both an

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entertainer and an ambassador for uh

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role playing uh showing people not just

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dungeons and dragons but like all manner

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of role play and the benefits it has for

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the those who play it amazing thank you

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so much

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and no one else would have been more

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qualified for today's topic of assemble

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so what does that mean to you in the dnd

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and wider ttrpg framework well what it

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means is that

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clearly a group of individuals are

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getting together in order to have a

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giant avengers end game scene where

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a bunch of people show up with d

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character sheets and you know just

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together in unison yell out murder hobos

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assemble

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and uh then ruin my day uh no um

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assemble is is such a such an

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interesting word assemble can mean so

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many different things um in this space

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it can talk about uh the way that we

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assemble our tables uh in terms of like

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who we decide to play with uh it can

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come down to uh

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who we assemble as a team when we create

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these characters who they are and how

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they interact with each other um or it

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could even mean like the assembly of our

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world and our space and the in the

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actual encounters that we face through

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these magical and imaginary tales

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the the way that things are put together

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you know being on a strong foundation or

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be it sort of done improvisationally is

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a huge topic i think for uh for the

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role-playing space and uh so so keen to

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explore all of these

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but yeah that's that's honestly what it

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means to me it's it's the

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the building blocks of of everything we

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let's start them with trying to play the

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game i guess is a good place to start as

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any as in like say somebody says i want

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to start playing or you know a dm is is

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i want to put i want i'm getting a team

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together uh you know they they want to

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find players what kind of considerations

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have to be made then and i know there's

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obviously quite a lot of talk in the the

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space around

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playing with

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maybe not like-minded individuals but

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those who have a similar style to you so

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i've been interested to get your take on

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what considerations have to be made

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there and then also anything that you

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have around when you've you said you'd

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play with um the younger folk and get

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them in and bring other people into the

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spear and stuff and how does that you

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know because that's obviously quite a

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unique proposition as well compared to

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just me playing at home with my mates

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uh well let me start by uh by throwing

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an addendum here or even a slight

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correction is i do not think the best

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games come from people who play with

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like-minded people i think those are

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enjoyable and i definitely enjoy doing

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those as kind of like you know

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short-term or one-shot adventures but

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one thing i think that makes any good

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table good is diversity and versatility

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i've played on a large number of tables

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um my my actual schedule for the last

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maybe seven years so far has been 10 to

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15 games per week which obviously is

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part of my casual enjoyment versus my my

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actual professional commitments and

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stuff like that uh has allowed me to see

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just so many different types of tables

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put together i've seen tables that are

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just synergized instantly and and become

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close friends and i've seen people who

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have somehow made a group of people who

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borderline hate each other uh come

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together in order to uh to actually play

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and enjoy the game so the best games for

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me are the ones where you assemble

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people who are uh who would otherwise

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just not be in the same situation who

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would not be social

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socializing with each other outside of d

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it's for me like a great unifier it's

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something that we find common grounds

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with with people with such drastically

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different opinions and creativities and

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you know sort of beliefs and it's it's

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great to be able to tap into these

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places when it comes to exploring and

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growing our own creativity it gives us

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more stuff to look at if you try to

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create something

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and somebody else comes up with the

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exact same idea then really all you're

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doing is just reverberating the same

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ideas you're never really growing or

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expanding and like i said for short-term

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games that's great but um you know if

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you really want to get to the meat and

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juicy bits of like a good role-playing

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table uh assembling a versatile group is

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always number one on my cards

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but to go back to the the point of the

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uh the question here which was um you

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know like what happens if you're trying

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to put together as a gm a brand new

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so i always look at one simple rule

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who

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do you want to play with who do you

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enjoy spending time with

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um because as a gm

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you are under the most

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social pressure you are the person who

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is under uh the most strain and the most

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likely to receive like d d fatigue

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so in order to combat that the first

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step is building a foundation upon

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people who you just get excited to be

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around to just play with even if you

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don't play the game like you know if

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you've got that friend that shows up

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with donuts every week like you want to

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play be with that guy because that guy

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is just always friendly and happy and

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cheerful but he you know is just garbage

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at creativity and just plays wallflower

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characters invite that person because

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that person might enjoy games in a

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different way to you

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but you will gain the benefit of their

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joy spreading to you throughout the game

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so that's that's person number one is

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always the that fuel for yourself

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following that you want to look at

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people who are going to

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not only um be enjoyable to be around

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give you a

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a means of creativity right

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you know you might have somebody who is

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really into d d like so passionately

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into d you're getting messages every

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other night from them cool bring that

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guy along that's no worries he'll you

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know he'll keep you on your toes he'll

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he'll play around with the hype and the

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energy but then you've got another

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person who is kind of like really into

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the role playing really into the acting

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cool bring that person along bounce off

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and learn from their their acting

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experience and and and their ability to

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uh put these characters into like their

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role play paces and then you know like i

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said if you've got like tons of

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different people that you just simply

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want to hang out with keep going with

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that these are for me um where a new gm

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or a game that is very very much

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starting out that's where you need to

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begin with these are the people you want

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to invite

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well firstly thank you because you've

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inadvertently made me feel very good

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about myself because uh

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as i was saying just before we started

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recording my

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guys and you know all the players at my

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table are very mixed in terms of what

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you've just described basically so

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experience and the ways they engage and

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what they take from it and now i'm kind

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of having this introspection and

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i have to say that that must be one of

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the reasons why i find myself to having

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this discussion with you today and be

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and being confident enough to do a

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podcast like this is because i've had

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that experience of those mixed

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players and

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like you could have been reeling off you

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know my players actually did those

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archetypes you just went through there

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um in how uncanny they were but yeah one

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guy you know he

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he he keeps that's what they always say

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right as long as players you know they

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keep turning up for the games they're

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they're happy to that they want to be

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there right to try and beat some of that

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dm gm imposter syndrome oh absolutely oh

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sorry just just before we jump into that

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i was going to say uh one of the

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interesting things you said there um we

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are our harshest critics when it comes

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to being a gm and um another good thing

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about those versatile games is you will

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have people who are dissatisfied but

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ideally if you've got a great

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lineup of versatile people you'll have

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that other person who will be your rock

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who will turn around and always tell you

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that you've done a fantastic job that

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you you make the world out for them and

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stuff like that so that's where you'll

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the longest games

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tend to be tables of those types of

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player builds so um it's great it's

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great that you've managed to uh to put

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together a really cool and versatile

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yeah no i mean i'm not for i can't take

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any credit for that that's just how it's

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it's just how it turned out but yeah

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one guy as i said he he is

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quite passive in in terms of both

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mechanics and uh actually he's coming

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out of the show a little bit more but

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there was a period when he was quite

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passive in game as well uh so much so

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that a couple of other players were like

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why is even here and i said hey man if

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anything that's great for me because

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it's really lightweight i don't have to

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do any

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like it's nice to have that kind of

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player actually because it's very easy

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for me to run a game for him because

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it's so

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relaxed in a way

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and then i have all the way up i've got

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a guy who is very um

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let's just say wants to be very

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efficient and effective which is my

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roundabout way of saying broadly he's

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like a mid-maxer but uh

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the nice way of saying is he wants you

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know everything to be the most effective

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as possible

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uh and then everybody in between those

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two extremes i've got yeah players that

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uh really into the spice and the juice

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and then the controversy and then the

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the twists and turns and others who are

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there just to oh i've got this really

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good build i want to try and it's more

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video gamey for them and they want to

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try this new combinations of feats and

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abilities

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like bug bear with a reach with a pole

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arm to have 15 foot reach like that's a

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cool idea do you have do you have

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someone who has the uh the hero shuffle

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uh what's that oh the hero shuffle

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players they are um

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so if you remember those there's a song

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which was like every day i'm shuffling

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you know like yeah the player shows up

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every week with i've got a new character

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idea and i want to try and then it's

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like i want to try this character i want

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to try that character build um a few of

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my pathfinder players uh are our hero

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shufflers

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uh as and you know it's really funny too

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because i do embarrass them because one

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i find it very disruptive and i hate it

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uh and you know i'll let them do it but

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i'll make sure that they they feel my

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disdain for it by playing that song

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every time they they do it and they're

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just like yeah yeah you're whatever and

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i'm like yeah yeah you know you know

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what it is you have to listen to this

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song every time you do it

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i think if i if i allowed it then they

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they're certainly players that would in

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my game that would want to

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mix it up and stuff but i'm

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i mean it's hard enough trying to rejig

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the campaign if a couple of the

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characters die and i have to bring in

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new ones let alone you know that's like

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once a year that happens that alone once

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a week so no oh my god yeah no i i've

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had one who who literally did it every

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week until i went to them and said if

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you change your character again you're

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only using core rules

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that was that was literally my i was it

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was just so frustrating it was like i

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think every every week for four months

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maybe

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like i'm not even exaggerating every

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week for four months because the thing

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is is that they put characters they what

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they tend to do is they tend to put a

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lot of stock in their characters

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role-playing for them it's like it's

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like them buying buying a dead parrot

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from a store and then taking it home and

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going why is it not doing anything i

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clearly bought a parrot it was supposed

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to entertain me and it is not

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entertaining and then they go back and

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they buy another dead parrot you know

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you breathe life into your characters

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you don't build them and then expect

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them to entertain you you know like

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it's it's yeah it's very weird yeah i've

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never

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that's really interesting um i've never

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really thought of it like that before

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but absolutely i can i can see

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how people would you know would do that

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would have the

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they think it's going to be

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entertainment just because it exists

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just because it's the thing that they've

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put it's it's this

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lineage with this class that would be

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fun

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sit at the table but you the players

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have to make it

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fun it won't just otherwise it's just a

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static piece of paper on the table right

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yeah exactly exactly 100

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um okay that that's good i'm quite happy

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with that that's really interesting to

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think of to think of that yeah oh man

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like yeah look the thing is is that

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there are archetypes um

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of players now i don't mean to say that

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all d d players are the same you know

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you're not always going to find the same

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types of min max's you're always going

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to find uh the same types of like role

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players and stuff like that you'll

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always find a nice variety of things but

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each of the archetypes tend to follow

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particular rules

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like if you wanna if you want and this

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goes to everyone in the podcast who is a

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gm who has a rules lawyer at the table

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or someone who really focuses on

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mechanics

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i want you to try something for me i

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want you to try building an encounter

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and the encounter can be anything you

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want for your campaign but have one

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simple truth

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have something

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be solved by like a riddle or a puzzle

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or by being smart like you know

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something that they would know right

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and then just have the npc

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be wrong

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but insistent that they're right

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there is no faster way to enrage a rules

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lawyer than to have an npc who you as a

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gm know is wrong

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but as an npc their mentality is it's

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absolutely wrong it's 100 percent like

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they look at the skeleton they just say

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oh no it's just the old lady it's like

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no it's not an old lady skeletons like

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no it's an old lady she comes through

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every day a skeleton is going through

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your town every day

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rubbish prove it

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okay cool i go and stab it's like you

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stab the old lady you know like really

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kind of lean into it and it just it gets

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them so angry because they because their

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mindset is very much like we need to

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explain this logically right we need you

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to understand why you're wrong and they

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will not budge until that npc

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understands that they're incorrect but

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if they're delusional or just

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not belligerent i wouldn't say

434
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belligerent don't make them belligerent

435
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right but if they just don't understand

436
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what you're saying

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it's it's it's a thing and it doesn't as

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i said it doesn't matter which person it

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is if you if you fall into the

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rules-layer archetype

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that is a trigger that is one of those

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things and as a gm what you can do is

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when you assemble your table

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you can use those strategies in order to

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build what i like to call your social

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biome

447
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the social biome is where once you've

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put your players together you are on an

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adventure you're creating the story but

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the story is not just about um the

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journey that you take in your

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imagination but also the journey that

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the characters and the players have with

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that story so there are moments where

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you want to make the big bad guy

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a source of antagonization not just for

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your characters but for the players as

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well um you know and that might involve

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things like that you know like

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enchanting an entire village to believe

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that the lord is actually this really

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kind and benevolent person and having

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the whole town turn on the heroes

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because they've all been charmed by a

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charm spell

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one player being infuriated because they

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refuse to see reason but having another

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person be very empathetic and turning

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around saying no we have to help them

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creates in a great social biome for you

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to exist in for this game and as a gm

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you don't have to do jack you just sit

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back and you watch the players just

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exist with these characters

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which yeah plays back again like i said

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one of the great foundations of

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assembling your perfect table that

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versatility that different methods of

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handling situations and stuff like that

480
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um yeah absolutely beautiful to see that

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in play

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yeah i'm trying to i'm trying to um

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think if there's any examples of where

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that's happened i did have um

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what you just described there a

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they're in a village like proper classic

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typical medieval

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village

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down on its luck half the people have

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vacated the village blah blah

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people are going missing classic classic

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fantasy fare

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uh they go into a tavern the first one's

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called like the lame potato but the sign

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is hanging off on one hinge and the e is

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falling off and this that and the other

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and um the tavern owner in there long

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story short his wife has gone missing

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and he is

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he's he is delusional and thinks that

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she's still with him and and cooking and

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so it's pretty sad i have to say but

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that was a very same situation where a

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couple of my players are like

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no dude she's she's gone and he said no

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no she'll be back she's just gone out to

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get some some you know bread and milk

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and bread and they were like no

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you know something's so suspicious here

510
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and i was just like now he's just

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he's just a poor bastard

512
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yeah that was really was absolutely

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triggering for them yeah oh yeah yeah

514
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yeah no absolutely and like i said it's

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not triggering in a bad way either and

516
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it's it's good for sometimes your

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players to see that the solution won't

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necessarily lie in the mechanics and

519
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that's what those moments kind of not

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just teach but they kind of go through

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so your rules lawyer who is very

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traditionally looking for answers

523
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through mechanics through still skill

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checks through rules and more

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specifically through explanation won't

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find the answer there it's found through

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the other side of things which that may

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not be a strength for that player um the

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empathy the

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ability to sit down and maybe talk to

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that man and say uh why don't you tell

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me a bit about your wife while we wait

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for her to come back

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and then having him sort of start evol

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you know sort of talking about his wife

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and you know some of like the way they

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met and what happened and then

538
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eventually coming to the point of their

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death having this guy break down would

540
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be just such a such a gut-wrenching

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scene you know

542
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but it's um it's one of those things

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that

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00:18:35,919 --> 00:18:41,360
it then values your empath player you

545
00:18:38,960 --> 00:18:42,880
know it values shows what they do so

546
00:18:41,360 --> 00:18:45,120
even if you have the character who says

547
00:18:42,880 --> 00:18:48,000
i'm going to make um you know sparkles

548
00:18:45,120 --> 00:18:50,240
mcsparkleface who is a bard and i'm also

549
00:18:48,000 --> 00:18:52,320
wearing a ha fork so i've got uh i you

550
00:18:50,240 --> 00:18:54,080
know i try my best with my my charisma

551
00:18:52,320 --> 00:18:55,760
but i've got like really crap stats in

552
00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,200
charisma and then the rules lawyer might

553
00:18:55,760 --> 00:18:59,280
turn around and be like

554
00:18:57,200 --> 00:19:00,160
what have you made and why is this a

555
00:18:59,280 --> 00:19:02,400
thing

556
00:19:00,160 --> 00:19:05,120
and you know what i'm looking at you

557
00:19:02,400 --> 00:19:06,880
know yeah what am i looking at here um

558
00:19:05,120 --> 00:19:08,320
you know suddenly becomes like well

559
00:19:06,880 --> 00:19:09,679
actually it has nothing to do with the

560
00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,840
numbers on my sheet i'm actually a

561
00:19:09,679 --> 00:19:14,160
really good role player and i don't need

562
00:19:11,840 --> 00:19:17,120
to roll dice i just know how to

563
00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:18,640
be in the scene and um and help the

564
00:19:17,120 --> 00:19:20,720
situation

565
00:19:18,640 --> 00:19:23,200
along the way that it should go because

566
00:19:20,720 --> 00:19:25,760
i'm a good storyteller

567
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:28,080
what we've just will you've brilliantly

568
00:19:25,760 --> 00:19:30,640
described their sounds on the face of it

569
00:19:28,080 --> 00:19:32,640
sounds like oh blimey that's that's

570
00:19:30,640 --> 00:19:34,480
tricky to understand and tricky to get

571
00:19:32,640 --> 00:19:35,840
and you know or now maybe i should go

572
00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:37,440
home and think about my characters and

573
00:19:35,840 --> 00:19:40,160
whatnot but the funny thing is is that

574
00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:41,760
it's it is actually pre-baked in

575
00:19:40,160 --> 00:19:43,120
different wording but all the way back

576
00:19:41,760 --> 00:19:45,120
i'm obviously i'm thinking about dnd

577
00:19:43,120 --> 00:19:47,840
here in my head but um all the way back

578
00:19:45,120 --> 00:19:50,559
when it's the dm makes you uh asks for

579
00:19:47,840 --> 00:19:53,039
you to roll and not the players asking

580
00:19:50,559 --> 00:19:55,520
to roll and that that is that is the

581
00:19:53,039 --> 00:19:57,120
distinction there to say the players you

582
00:19:55,520 --> 00:19:58,880
don't need to focus on that you just

583
00:19:57,120 --> 00:20:00,400
focus on playing the game

584
00:19:58,880 --> 00:20:02,240
and then those things that you just

585
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,600
described just come come out naturally

586
00:20:02,240 --> 00:20:05,520
because they're not focused on which one

587
00:20:03,600 --> 00:20:06,799
of these 20 things on my sheet here

588
00:20:05,520 --> 00:20:08,480
should i

589
00:20:06,799 --> 00:20:09,760
roll 100 and you know what's really

590
00:20:08,480 --> 00:20:12,000
interesting when you say that i actually

591
00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:13,039
have a a house rule that i use wherever

592
00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,559
i can

593
00:20:13,039 --> 00:20:17,039
i you know obviously i don't use it when

594
00:20:14,559 --> 00:20:19,679
i'm performing online but um one of the

595
00:20:17,039 --> 00:20:20,480
things i say is that if you ask me for a

596
00:20:19,679 --> 00:20:22,559
role

597
00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:24,159
assume you fail

598
00:20:22,559 --> 00:20:26,559
that's a general rule of thumb if you

599
00:20:24,159 --> 00:20:28,480
ask me for a rule assume you fail don't

600
00:20:26,559 --> 00:20:30,640
tell me that you're intimidating someone

601
00:20:28,480 --> 00:20:32,640
tell me what you do show me what you do

602
00:20:30,640 --> 00:20:34,799
don't tell me uh i'm gonna make an

603
00:20:32,640 --> 00:20:36,559
athletics check to do blah

604
00:20:34,799 --> 00:20:38,240
jump across this thing and i'll tell you

605
00:20:36,559 --> 00:20:40,240
because sometimes in fact most of the

606
00:20:38,240 --> 00:20:42,640
time i won't even ask for a role i'm not

607
00:20:40,240 --> 00:20:45,200
gonna waste my brain power trying to

608
00:20:42,640 --> 00:20:48,000
figure out the dc of flicking a a

609
00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,600
freaking snot booger

610
00:20:48,000 --> 00:20:50,880
bullet across the room to hit the

611
00:20:49,600 --> 00:20:52,720
teacher in the face you know i'm not

612
00:20:50,880 --> 00:20:55,120
gonna waste my time with that i got way

613
00:20:52,720 --> 00:20:56,720
i got bigger things to worry about so um

614
00:20:55,120 --> 00:20:59,200
you know sometimes there won't even be

615
00:20:56,720 --> 00:21:00,400
one but having to wait for your check

616
00:20:59,200 --> 00:21:01,760
having for you to do the math to

617
00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:04,000
calculate it and then eventually tell me

618
00:21:01,760 --> 00:21:05,760
a number i didn't ask for uh i'm just

619
00:21:04,000 --> 00:21:08,640
like no no just be in the moment dude

620
00:21:05,760 --> 00:21:10,159
like be here be there be do do do do the

621
00:21:08,640 --> 00:21:11,360
thing and i'll let you know if you need

622
00:21:10,159 --> 00:21:12,720
to do something

623
00:21:11,360 --> 00:21:14,400
oh actually this is a really good story

624
00:21:12,720 --> 00:21:16,400
of that so i um

625
00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:19,600
one of the very first times i play

626
00:21:16,400 --> 00:21:21,440
uh d d very very first times i play d5e

627
00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:23,919
i was at a convention uh that i'd been

628
00:21:21,440 --> 00:21:25,520
invited to guest at and i was only just

629
00:21:23,919 --> 00:21:27,760
dipping my toe into fifth edition

630
00:21:25,520 --> 00:21:30,799
because i was one of those people who

631
00:21:27,760 --> 00:21:32,799
started with 3.5 and 3.0 uh evolved in

632
00:21:30,799 --> 00:21:34,880
the pathfinder and then said forree get

633
00:21:32,799 --> 00:21:36,960
the behind me demon

634
00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:38,880
um and uh you know

635
00:21:36,960 --> 00:21:40,400
didn't really like 4e so i didn't even

636
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:41,919
give 5e a chance but i went to a

637
00:21:40,400 --> 00:21:43,600
convention people then said hey you

638
00:21:41,919 --> 00:21:45,200
should try this so i was like okay fine

639
00:21:43,600 --> 00:21:48,720
so i tried to bard

640
00:21:45,200 --> 00:21:50,720
and uh i pl i based him off um a irish

641
00:21:48,720 --> 00:21:53,760
comedian by the name of dylan moran

642
00:21:50,720 --> 00:21:56,000
uh so it was basically you know dylan's

643
00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:58,080
uh character from uh black books called

644
00:21:56,000 --> 00:22:01,840
bernie books yep uh who who was just

645
00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:04,480
this sarcastic uh bastard and one of the

646
00:22:01,840 --> 00:22:06,400
things i i did uh was you know instead

647
00:22:04,480 --> 00:22:08,559
whenever i used in sp uh you know

648
00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:10,240
inspiring performance uh instead of

649
00:22:08,559 --> 00:22:12,720
using body inspiration to like sort of

650
00:22:10,240 --> 00:22:14,159
you know like play a musical tune i'd uh

651
00:22:12,720 --> 00:22:15,679
just basically start insulting them it's

652
00:22:14,159 --> 00:22:17,280
like would you like me to get you a hand

653
00:22:15,679 --> 00:22:18,559
for your lad like maybe i can go back

654
00:22:17,280 --> 00:22:20,080
into town and see if a little girl can

655
00:22:18,559 --> 00:22:21,760
come lift that for you

656
00:22:20,080 --> 00:22:23,360
and uh you know

657
00:22:21,760 --> 00:22:27,480
and just they'd just be so angry they

658
00:22:23,360 --> 00:22:27,480
then roll the d6 and be like

659
00:22:27,520 --> 00:22:31,120
so you know and um and there was there

660
00:22:29,679 --> 00:22:33,919
was another moment where we went against

661
00:22:31,120 --> 00:22:36,000
like this super boss and uh this kobold

662
00:22:33,919 --> 00:22:38,720
leader was like you know we will now

663
00:22:36,000 --> 00:22:42,159
raise the dragon army and then we will

664
00:22:38,720 --> 00:22:44,240
bring tomb to all these surface dwellers

665
00:22:42,159 --> 00:22:45,200
and then you hear from the back like

666
00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,720
hey

667
00:22:45,200 --> 00:22:48,960
what's it like what's the pain like

668
00:22:46,720 --> 00:22:51,120
being a dragon's condom

669
00:22:48,960 --> 00:22:51,120
and

670
00:22:51,200 --> 00:22:53,919
then

671
00:22:51,919 --> 00:22:55,679
i i was i cast vicious mockery and the

672
00:22:53,919 --> 00:22:59,039
gm literally turned to me and said no he

673
00:22:55,679 --> 00:23:02,240
fails like just he outright he just he

674
00:22:59,039 --> 00:23:04,080
doesn't make the save he sees it down

675
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:05,280
and i loved that i loved the feeling of

676
00:23:04,080 --> 00:23:06,720
it i loved the fact that there was no

677
00:23:05,280 --> 00:23:08,960
dice involved i loved the fact that i

678
00:23:06,720 --> 00:23:10,799
was rewarded for being creative in that

679
00:23:08,960 --> 00:23:13,200
sense and i wanted to take that

680
00:23:10,799 --> 00:23:14,720
with me to other games so um

681
00:23:13,200 --> 00:23:15,600
and the gm for that was uh was a guy

682
00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:18,080
named

683
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:20,240
sam i think or sean

684
00:23:18,080 --> 00:23:22,320
i can't remember i feel terrible but yes

685
00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:25,039
uh so so if he's listening then then

686
00:23:22,320 --> 00:23:27,120
thank you for that uh because yeah you

687
00:23:25,039 --> 00:23:29,039
know it was um it was just wonderful to

688
00:23:27,120 --> 00:23:30,960
be able to to get yourself into a game

689
00:23:29,039 --> 00:23:32,720
like that

690
00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:34,640
oh amazing that's thank you for sharing

691
00:23:32,720 --> 00:23:37,039
that so that's a great story it's nice

692
00:23:34,640 --> 00:23:39,840
to see you know that propagation of

693
00:23:37,039 --> 00:23:41,520
of tips and advices now obviously bled

694
00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,960
into your games that is now on my

695
00:23:41,520 --> 00:23:44,559
podcast so that maybe other people can

696
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:45,679
can hear it and yeah yeah and then

697
00:23:44,559 --> 00:23:47,360
introduce it in their own put their own

698
00:23:45,679 --> 00:23:49,279
spin on it and stuff so that's i'm very

699
00:23:47,360 --> 00:23:52,159
happy to be part of that propagation

700
00:23:49,279 --> 00:23:53,039
chain now this is this is going to be a

701
00:23:52,159 --> 00:23:55,279
very

702
00:23:53,039 --> 00:23:57,520
pertinent question for you based on what

703
00:23:55,279 --> 00:23:59,840
you said earlier on about

704
00:23:57,520 --> 00:24:01,360
how many games you play in

705
00:23:59,840 --> 00:24:03,600
a given week

706
00:24:01,360 --> 00:24:06,159
now obviously everyone always complains

707
00:24:03,600 --> 00:24:07,919
about uh scheduling and one one piece of

708
00:24:06,159 --> 00:24:10,320
assembling at a table is getting

709
00:24:07,919 --> 00:24:12,340
everybody to be free at the same time

710
00:24:10,320 --> 00:24:13,760
quite an important piece i think

711
00:24:12,340 --> 00:24:14,799
[Laughter]

712
00:24:13,760 --> 00:24:17,120
um

713
00:24:14,799 --> 00:24:18,559
have you fell foul of that at any point

714
00:24:17,120 --> 00:24:20,159
and if so

715
00:24:18,559 --> 00:24:21,679
you know what what was the outcome but

716
00:24:20,159 --> 00:24:23,440
also how do you do how do you deal with

717
00:24:21,679 --> 00:24:25,600
like these billion games you have every

718
00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:27,600
a different game every minute

719
00:24:25,600 --> 00:24:29,120
so so here's here's a fun fact for the

720
00:24:27,600 --> 00:24:31,120
podcasters listening i'm actually

721
00:24:29,120 --> 00:24:32,640
running a game right now

722
00:24:31,120 --> 00:24:35,120
believe me you mean literally as we're

723
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:36,640
recording not just yeah in this frame

724
00:24:35,120 --> 00:24:38,159
well actually no chances are while

725
00:24:36,640 --> 00:24:39,360
you're listening to this i'm probably

726
00:24:38,159 --> 00:24:41,840
running a game

727
00:24:39,360 --> 00:24:45,360
um but um but no right now as we are

728
00:24:41,840 --> 00:24:46,640
recording this uh i am on a break from a

729
00:24:45,360 --> 00:24:48,799
game that i'm running that i will be

730
00:24:46,640 --> 00:24:50,559
picking up after we record this podcast

731
00:24:48,799 --> 00:24:52,080
uh my players are sitting down to level

732
00:24:50,559 --> 00:24:54,480
up so i've bought a little bit of time

733
00:24:52,080 --> 00:24:56,640
to uh to come and do the podcast which i

734
00:24:54,480 --> 00:24:59,200
timed for today

735
00:24:56,640 --> 00:25:01,120
scheduling can be so tricky and it is

736
00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:03,200
something i have run afoul of many many

737
00:25:01,120 --> 00:25:05,919
many many times

738
00:25:03,200 --> 00:25:08,320
one of the things that helps is uh a

739
00:25:05,919 --> 00:25:09,840
it's my occupation so most of my games

740
00:25:08,320 --> 00:25:12,159
are paid work so

741
00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:14,799
um looking at how my my per hour you

742
00:25:12,159 --> 00:25:16,720
know what i mean like it gives me value

743
00:25:14,799 --> 00:25:18,720
in in doing all of them

744
00:25:16,720 --> 00:25:20,640
that being said there are people who

745
00:25:18,720 --> 00:25:23,360
seek me out for my time

746
00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:24,799
and it's usually about doing

747
00:25:23,360 --> 00:25:26,799
those things that i have the most

748
00:25:24,799 --> 00:25:29,520
difficulty so

749
00:25:26,799 --> 00:25:32,159
let's see i've got

750
00:25:29,520 --> 00:25:34,080
two games on monday two games on tuesday

751
00:25:32,159 --> 00:25:36,320
one of which is fortnightly

752
00:25:34,080 --> 00:25:38,159
three games on wednesday

753
00:25:36,320 --> 00:25:40,159
one of which is fortnightly

754
00:25:38,159 --> 00:25:42,159
i've got

755
00:25:40,159 --> 00:25:43,760
two games on third on friday one of

756
00:25:42,159 --> 00:25:45,840
which is fortnightly

757
00:25:43,760 --> 00:25:48,480
three games on saturday

758
00:25:45,840 --> 00:25:50,080
and then one game fortnightly on sund no

759
00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,640
two games on sunday one of which is

760
00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:54,080
fortnightly so that's every single week

761
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:56,880
that is what my regular schedule is

762
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:58,559
without my extras so

763
00:25:56,880 --> 00:26:00,080
when i say i run a foul of this what i

764
00:25:58,559 --> 00:26:01,520
mean is

765
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,679
these games are all my professional

766
00:26:01,520 --> 00:26:05,520
games that i i play

767
00:26:03,679 --> 00:26:07,679
for work there's a certain level of

768
00:26:05,520 --> 00:26:09,679
preparation that goes into them

769
00:26:07,679 --> 00:26:10,400
there's a minimum requirement for them

770
00:26:09,679 --> 00:26:12,720
but

771
00:26:10,400 --> 00:26:14,960
for the most part these things are stuff

772
00:26:12,720 --> 00:26:16,320
that i have taken the time to prep and

773
00:26:14,960 --> 00:26:18,240
be prepared for

774
00:26:16,320 --> 00:26:20,400
but if i want to do something like for

775
00:26:18,240 --> 00:26:22,000
myself like if i want to actually just

776
00:26:20,400 --> 00:26:23,120
sit down and play with some friends and

777
00:26:22,000 --> 00:26:25,039
stuff like that

778
00:26:23,120 --> 00:26:26,880
those are where it gets it gets harder

779
00:26:25,039 --> 00:26:29,279
because not only do i need to schedule

780
00:26:26,880 --> 00:26:30,880
for myself amongst the busyness of

781
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,480
everything that i'm doing

782
00:26:30,880 --> 00:26:34,159
most of the friends and associates that

783
00:26:32,480 --> 00:26:35,360
i have are also in this performance

784
00:26:34,159 --> 00:26:37,679
space where

785
00:26:35,360 --> 00:26:40,240
they are equally as busy doing this this

786
00:26:37,679 --> 00:26:41,919
whole sort of thing uh in fact um a

787
00:26:40,240 --> 00:26:43,600
couple of my friends have literally

788
00:26:41,919 --> 00:26:44,960
gotten to a point where the only way for

789
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,039
me to actually

790
00:26:44,960 --> 00:26:49,600
game with them is to actually put on an

791
00:26:47,039 --> 00:26:51,200
event like uh like i'll be i'll find a p

792
00:26:49,600 --> 00:26:53,679
i'll find a sponsor get a paid event

793
00:26:51,200 --> 00:26:56,159
going and then you know be like hey

794
00:26:53,679 --> 00:26:58,480
guess what this now has turned from a

795
00:26:56,159 --> 00:27:00,480
let's find some free time to uh let's do

796
00:26:58,480 --> 00:27:02,880
some work and get paid

797
00:27:00,480 --> 00:27:04,960
so that's how i got around it uh i don't

798
00:27:02,880 --> 00:27:07,200
recommend it for everyone uh it's very

799
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:09,360
difficult and the money's not great but

800
00:27:07,200 --> 00:27:11,039
uh as soon as you uh as soon as you

801
00:27:09,360 --> 00:27:12,799
start paying your your performers to

802
00:27:11,039 --> 00:27:16,159
come and hang out with you schedules

803
00:27:12,799 --> 00:27:19,520
tend to tend to be a bit more flexible

804
00:27:16,159 --> 00:27:21,440
yeah i'd imagine say yeah

805
00:27:19,520 --> 00:27:23,520
yeah i think again this is a funny thing

806
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,520
that i wanted to say is that i

807
00:27:23,520 --> 00:27:26,480
a number of players in my game uh were

808
00:27:25,520 --> 00:27:28,559
new

809
00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:30,720
certainly uh some even you know don't

810
00:27:28,559 --> 00:27:33,200
play even video games or board games or

811
00:27:30,720 --> 00:27:35,919
any role-playing games they very much

812
00:27:33,200 --> 00:27:37,360
a new experience for them and i do have

813
00:27:35,919 --> 00:27:39,520
to remind them we've been going

814
00:27:37,360 --> 00:27:41,760
consistently with a couple of short

815
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:42,799
breaks holidays and illnesses and so on

816
00:27:41,760 --> 00:27:44,799
and so on

817
00:27:42,799 --> 00:27:46,799
for almost three years at this point

818
00:27:44,799 --> 00:27:48,320
started weekly for the first 10 or so

819
00:27:46,799 --> 00:27:49,520
sessions and i pushed it out to

820
00:27:48,320 --> 00:27:52,000
fortnightly

821
00:27:49,520 --> 00:27:54,320
and i have to remind them i'm like

822
00:27:52,000 --> 00:27:55,440
guys like we are exceptionally lucky

823
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:57,919
here

824
00:27:55,440 --> 00:28:00,159
at how routine and

825
00:27:57,919 --> 00:28:02,240
trivial it has been to set up this

826
00:28:00,159 --> 00:28:03,520
routine like you won't believe i mean

827
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:05,200
obviously group chats with other games

828
00:28:03,520 --> 00:28:07,520
that i play in or used to playing and

829
00:28:05,200 --> 00:28:10,480
whatnot and just watching those

830
00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:12,000
fall over every other week because of

831
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,679
issues or scheduling issues or people

832
00:28:12,000 --> 00:28:15,120
can't make it or oh this week we're

833
00:28:13,679 --> 00:28:16,960
moving house and this certainly i'm like

834
00:28:15,120 --> 00:28:18,880
guys you don't

835
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,679
good luck finding another game like this

836
00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:21,919
like

837
00:28:19,679 --> 00:28:23,840
you you'll miss me when i'm gone

838
00:28:21,919 --> 00:28:26,640
oh yeah yeah no you look i

839
00:28:23,840 --> 00:28:28,559
like even even with um someone with my

840
00:28:26,640 --> 00:28:30,559
experience and my standing

841
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:33,600
as a professional gm there are

842
00:28:30,559 --> 00:28:34,720
definitely uh weeks where um you sit

843
00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,559
there and

844
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:38,080
uh you know you're like why uh why are

845
00:28:36,559 --> 00:28:40,480
there two or three players like

846
00:28:38,080 --> 00:28:42,720
consecutively missing my games or you

847
00:28:40,480 --> 00:28:44,960
know and and the tough bit is is that as

848
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:46,720
a gm you always place that blame on

849
00:28:44,960 --> 00:28:48,480
yourself as well you never turn around

850
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,320
you go oh they were just busy this week

851
00:28:48,480 --> 00:28:52,720
or oh they you know like something came

852
00:28:50,320 --> 00:28:54,960
up it kind of always digs just that

853
00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:56,480
little tiny bit where it's like are you

854
00:28:54,960 --> 00:28:59,360
not having fun

855
00:28:56,480 --> 00:29:00,159
do you would i are you really

856
00:28:59,360 --> 00:29:01,760
so

857
00:29:00,159 --> 00:29:03,600
uninterested with what i'm doing that

858
00:29:01,760 --> 00:29:05,200
you'd much rather do other things every

859
00:29:03,600 --> 00:29:06,320
single time we're supposed to sit down

860
00:29:05,200 --> 00:29:09,440
for a game

861
00:29:06,320 --> 00:29:11,440
you know it it digs it does um

862
00:29:09,440 --> 00:29:12,480
but i want any gm who's listening to

863
00:29:11,440 --> 00:29:15,039
know that it

864
00:29:12,480 --> 00:29:18,080
rarely is that case sometimes it is and

865
00:29:15,039 --> 00:29:19,120
if it is then shame on you gm uh but if

866
00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:20,799
it's not

867
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:22,559
if if your players literally haven't sat

868
00:29:20,799 --> 00:29:24,880
there and told you no no i would

869
00:29:22,559 --> 00:29:26,399
literally rather be peeling paint off

870
00:29:24,880 --> 00:29:28,159
walls then be playing your game if your

871
00:29:26,399 --> 00:29:30,640
players don't sit down and tell you that

872
00:29:28,159 --> 00:29:32,799
then 90 of the time it's because

873
00:29:30,640 --> 00:29:34,320
like life happens you know like people

874
00:29:32,799 --> 00:29:35,840
have have things and commitments and

875
00:29:34,320 --> 00:29:36,799
responsibilities especially the older

876
00:29:35,840 --> 00:29:38,640
you get

877
00:29:36,799 --> 00:29:42,399
and it has nothing to do with

878
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:44,159
your skill or your capabilities as a gm

879
00:29:42,399 --> 00:29:46,080
yeah yeah well that ties into what we're

880
00:29:44,159 --> 00:29:47,760
saying earlier on about uh you're your

881
00:29:46,080 --> 00:29:49,919
own worst critic and also if they if

882
00:29:47,760 --> 00:29:51,600
they do turn up then they they're having

883
00:29:49,919 --> 00:29:54,080
fun so it's more important that they

884
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:55,360
come back after having a week or two off

885
00:29:54,080 --> 00:29:57,760
because it still means that you know

886
00:29:55,360 --> 00:29:59,760
that it was just life getting in the way

887
00:29:57,760 --> 00:30:01,360
as you said of course of course yeah we

888
00:29:59,760 --> 00:30:02,880
were just so

889
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:04,559
i've said it before on progress and i

890
00:30:02,880 --> 00:30:06,080
said again it was just you know we were

891
00:30:04,559 --> 00:30:07,760
we were all colleagues at the time so

892
00:30:06,080 --> 00:30:09,279
it's like a piece of cake to a have

893
00:30:07,760 --> 00:30:11,440
everyone in the same room because we

894
00:30:09,279 --> 00:30:13,600
were being paid to be in the same room

895
00:30:11,440 --> 00:30:15,600
daily uh because we worked together

896
00:30:13,600 --> 00:30:16,640
uh so it's very easy to be like right

897
00:30:15,600 --> 00:30:18,559
when can you do it when can you do it

898
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:20,399
when can you okay right that's that's

899
00:30:18,559 --> 00:30:22,000
the schedule set up and then once we had

900
00:30:20,399 --> 00:30:24,000
that locked in it was actually after

901
00:30:22,000 --> 00:30:25,760
work so it's a piece of cake again to be

902
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:26,640
like are you we're playing tonight plans

903
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,720
not playing tonight we're playing

904
00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:30,240
tonight yep yep cool we'd like meerkats

905
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:31,679
in the office you know it got to about 5

906
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,039
p.m and we're all like sticking our

907
00:30:31,679 --> 00:30:34,720
heads up and being like yeah you ready

908
00:30:33,039 --> 00:30:35,520
to leave you ready to leave yeah cool

909
00:30:34,720 --> 00:30:37,200
right

910
00:30:35,520 --> 00:30:38,799
and then we'd all leave you know and go

911
00:30:37,200 --> 00:30:41,520
around the guy's house and play the game

912
00:30:38,799 --> 00:30:44,799
that evening so um awesome that was yeah

913
00:30:41,520 --> 00:30:46,640
very very very lucky and uh

914
00:30:44,799 --> 00:30:48,080
i've only been on my dm holiday now for

915
00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:50,480
one session

916
00:30:48,080 --> 00:30:52,000
equivalence worth so two or three weeks

917
00:30:50,480 --> 00:30:53,520
and uh

918
00:30:52,000 --> 00:30:54,799
i'm missing it a little bit which is

919
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,840
weird considering we haven't even hit

920
00:30:54,799 --> 00:30:57,360
christmas yet i'm not playing again

921
00:30:55,840 --> 00:30:58,799
until middle of january but it is like

922
00:30:57,360 --> 00:31:00,880
oh yeah i want to get i want to get guys

923
00:30:58,799 --> 00:31:02,480
i've got a because two characters have

924
00:31:00,880 --> 00:31:04,320
just died so the new year we're going

925
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:07,279
into two new characters coming in that's

926
00:31:04,320 --> 00:31:09,470
cool so it's a very exciting time

927
00:31:07,279 --> 00:31:12,789
to go back at the table

928
00:31:09,470 --> 00:31:12,789
[Music]

929
00:31:15,340 --> 00:31:19,760
[Music]

930
00:31:18,559 --> 00:31:22,799
are these

931
00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:25,279
games that you are running and playing

932
00:31:22,799 --> 00:31:26,720
in are they predominantly well this is

933
00:31:25,279 --> 00:31:28,159
obviously a bit of a weird question

934
00:31:26,720 --> 00:31:30,559
considering the time we live in at the

935
00:31:28,159 --> 00:31:32,320
moment uh i presume they're all remote

936
00:31:30,559 --> 00:31:33,519
for the

937
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:35,919
so

938
00:31:33,519 --> 00:31:38,640
so i live in western australia which uh

939
00:31:35,919 --> 00:31:41,200
when it came down to covid we are

940
00:31:38,640 --> 00:31:43,039
we did well a lot of what we did in

941
00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,519
place during that period of time i think

942
00:31:43,039 --> 00:31:47,440
we only had like a five-week lockdown

943
00:31:45,519 --> 00:31:49,519
at the height of covid and then we had

944
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:51,600
like a three-day lockdown between there

945
00:31:49,519 --> 00:31:52,480
and now and that was it that we've we've

946
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:54,159
been

947
00:31:52,480 --> 00:31:56,240
business as usual for quite some time

948
00:31:54,159 --> 00:31:59,279
there are obviously things in place here

949
00:31:56,240 --> 00:32:00,480
in wa like in case stuff happens but

950
00:31:59,279 --> 00:32:02,080
so

951
00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,360
because i've been in my job for like

952
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:05,840
seven years

953
00:32:03,360 --> 00:32:07,919
most of my work used to be at my local

954
00:32:05,840 --> 00:32:10,559
government youth center i work as a

955
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:12,159
local government worker as a gm for

956
00:32:10,559 --> 00:32:14,240
the the city

957
00:32:12,159 --> 00:32:15,679
and i'm running games for kids

958
00:32:14,240 --> 00:32:17,919
introducing them to role-playing games

959
00:32:15,679 --> 00:32:19,760
which during my time there has been very

960
00:32:17,919 --> 00:32:21,919
much about building up their confidence

961
00:32:19,760 --> 00:32:24,240
helping them with self-esteem issues

962
00:32:21,919 --> 00:32:26,480
bridging communication gaps and even uh

963
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,840
helping some kids who are on the

964
00:32:26,480 --> 00:32:32,240
spectrum um feel accepted in the hobby

965
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:34,000
that you know most people you know may

966
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:35,919
not necessarily accept or understand

967
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,039
them and the special needs that they may

968
00:32:35,919 --> 00:32:40,000
require

969
00:32:37,039 --> 00:32:41,440
uh we've been all about that and

970
00:32:40,000 --> 00:32:43,360
the great thing is it's been one of the

971
00:32:41,440 --> 00:32:45,200
most successful programs we've run and

972
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:48,080
we've consecutively run it for for years

973
00:32:45,200 --> 00:32:49,919
now um when covert hit

974
00:32:48,080 --> 00:32:51,519
we went online straight away because

975
00:32:49,919 --> 00:32:53,519
thankfully i was already

976
00:32:51,519 --> 00:32:54,799
uh in the business uh of streaming and

977
00:32:53,519 --> 00:32:56,399
stuff like that so i was like cool i

978
00:32:54,799 --> 00:32:58,240
push a button we're online

979
00:32:56,399 --> 00:33:01,279
and we kept going so we barely missed a

980
00:32:58,240 --> 00:33:03,440
beat but now that we're again off the

981
00:33:01,279 --> 00:33:05,840
other side of that lockdown period

982
00:33:03,440 --> 00:33:08,240
half of my games are in person again the

983
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:09,519
game i'm playing today or tonight is uh

984
00:33:08,240 --> 00:33:11,600
is in person as well so i've got my

985
00:33:09,519 --> 00:33:12,559
mates uh in the next room eating all my

986
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:14,159
brownies

987
00:33:12,559 --> 00:33:15,760
um

988
00:33:14,159 --> 00:33:17,840
and um

989
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:20,240
but for the rest of the most of my

990
00:33:17,840 --> 00:33:22,880
professional stuff is online so i have

991
00:33:20,240 --> 00:33:25,600
patreon games where uh people pay to be

992
00:33:22,880 --> 00:33:27,440
on one of my tables which i also stream

993
00:33:25,600 --> 00:33:29,120
um so you can catch those on my twitch

994
00:33:27,440 --> 00:33:30,880
channel but um but yeah those ones are

995
00:33:29,120 --> 00:33:32,880
all remotely and online

996
00:33:30,880 --> 00:33:35,120
then i also do special event ones which

997
00:33:32,880 --> 00:33:36,880
i do with people from all over the world

998
00:33:35,120 --> 00:33:39,120
uh celebrities who also do the online

999
00:33:36,880 --> 00:33:41,440
streaming stuff and then we you know

1000
00:33:39,120 --> 00:33:43,200
again gather up to promote stuff and

1001
00:33:41,440 --> 00:33:44,399
broadcast it for for people to watch and

1002
00:33:43,200 --> 00:33:46,880
enjoy

1003
00:33:44,399 --> 00:33:49,519
i i wanted to say when you started that

1004
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:51,600
with um ugm for the government

1005
00:33:49,519 --> 00:33:52,799
hey it sounds well sinister

1006
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:54,640
oh yeah

1007
00:33:52,799 --> 00:33:56,080
yeah super dodgy

1008
00:33:54,640 --> 00:33:58,240
and b i was just thinking like you know

1009
00:33:56,080 --> 00:34:00,159
in the satanic panic can you imagine how

1010
00:33:58,240 --> 00:34:01,600
how freaked out like people would have

1011
00:34:00,159 --> 00:34:03,120
would have been we're like

1012
00:34:01,600 --> 00:34:04,320
i'm doing this for the government that's

1013
00:34:03,120 --> 00:34:05,760
like whoa

1014
00:34:04,320 --> 00:34:07,519
yeah you know you know what i still have

1015
00:34:05,760 --> 00:34:09,280
to try i still get sideways looks when i

1016
00:34:07,519 --> 00:34:10,560
have to explain to parents what i do

1017
00:34:09,280 --> 00:34:12,399
like you know when they come in with

1018
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:13,839
their kids like um we had this we had

1019
00:34:12,399 --> 00:34:16,159
this lovely couple

1020
00:34:13,839 --> 00:34:18,480
a mom and her daughter came in because

1021
00:34:16,159 --> 00:34:21,599
my boss is trying to get more

1022
00:34:18,480 --> 00:34:23,919
uh young females into like role-playing

1023
00:34:21,599 --> 00:34:25,280
and dnd and when they uh when they when

1024
00:34:23,919 --> 00:34:27,599
they showed up it's like and this is

1025
00:34:25,280 --> 00:34:29,760
michael he's our dungeon master and i'm

1026
00:34:27,599 --> 00:34:30,960
like

1027
00:34:29,760 --> 00:34:34,480
you're not gonna give that with you're

1028
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:34,480
not gonna give any context to that

1029
00:34:38,480 --> 00:34:42,000
so um so you know yeah it's it's it's

1030
00:34:40,960 --> 00:34:44,240
kind of one of those funny things

1031
00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:46,639
because either you know what a dm is

1032
00:34:44,240 --> 00:34:48,240
uh you assume what a dm is or you ask

1033
00:34:46,639 --> 00:34:49,040
what a dm is that's that's always the

1034
00:34:48,240 --> 00:34:50,960
case

1035
00:34:49,040 --> 00:34:53,839
um but the great thing there is is that

1036
00:34:50,960 --> 00:34:55,839
my my value to the government is less

1037
00:34:53,839 --> 00:34:56,960
about well it is still about the d d

1038
00:34:55,839 --> 00:34:58,880
stuff right it's about you know

1039
00:34:56,960 --> 00:35:00,960
providing a service but uh more

1040
00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:02,560
importantly it's a nice bridge between

1041
00:35:00,960 --> 00:35:05,280
young people and adults who don't

1042
00:35:02,560 --> 00:35:07,200
understand gaming who don't understand

1043
00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:10,240
what people get out of it

1044
00:35:07,200 --> 00:35:11,359
because there's um such a strong need

1045
00:35:10,240 --> 00:35:14,160
and this goes to

1046
00:35:11,359 --> 00:35:16,720
goes back to our topic of assembly where

1047
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:19,280
people need acceptance and getting

1048
00:35:16,720 --> 00:35:20,800
acceptance online is difficult because

1049
00:35:19,280 --> 00:35:22,720
when we're online we have a certain

1050
00:35:20,800 --> 00:35:25,040
level of anonymity there is a certain

1051
00:35:22,720 --> 00:35:27,520
level of natural disconnect

1052
00:35:25,040 --> 00:35:29,200
we have grown up in an age of technology

1053
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:31,440
where mass communication has led to the

1054
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:33,599
fact that a lot of people will have

1055
00:35:31,440 --> 00:35:35,520
friends online that they have no idea

1056
00:35:33,599 --> 00:35:37,520
what their real name is

1057
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:40,560
and that's an accepted truth in the

1058
00:35:37,520 --> 00:35:42,720
world as we see it right now whereas

1059
00:35:40,560 --> 00:35:44,160
the other side of that is that we are

1060
00:35:42,720 --> 00:35:46,560
learning less and less about how to

1061
00:35:44,160 --> 00:35:48,880
socialize in person how to actually

1062
00:35:46,560 --> 00:35:50,880
create these bonds and how to actually

1063
00:35:48,880 --> 00:35:53,920
uh learn how to do something quite as

1064
00:35:50,880 --> 00:35:54,960
simple as hi i like you can we be

1065
00:35:53,920 --> 00:35:56,800
friends

1066
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,680
right like you know and i hate to be

1067
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:02,720
that old man who goes back in my day but

1068
00:35:59,680 --> 00:36:04,400
you know back in my day um i punched

1069
00:36:02,720 --> 00:36:06,400
someone to make friends with them and i

1070
00:36:04,400 --> 00:36:08,160
don't know why till this day like my

1071
00:36:06,400 --> 00:36:10,000
best friends i'm fairly sure i have

1072
00:36:08,160 --> 00:36:13,119
either hit with a piece of poly pipe or

1073
00:36:10,000 --> 00:36:14,800
i have punched in the face um

1074
00:36:13,119 --> 00:36:16,640
and that's because i grew up in a very

1075
00:36:14,800 --> 00:36:19,440
rough part of australia but

1076
00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:21,760
you know it's gone from that to

1077
00:36:19,440 --> 00:36:24,160
uh hi

1078
00:36:21,760 --> 00:36:26,000
do you like eggplants uh you know like

1079
00:36:24,160 --> 00:36:27,200
i've got no you know like you've got no

1080
00:36:26,000 --> 00:36:28,960
way to you know like it's like how do

1081
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:31,680
you communicate now and a lot of the

1082
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:33,359
young kids uh today are are very much

1083
00:36:31,680 --> 00:36:35,119
interested in learning how to

1084
00:36:33,359 --> 00:36:36,640
communicate with other people and

1085
00:36:35,119 --> 00:36:38,800
parents are interested in learning how

1086
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:40,240
to communicate with their young people

1087
00:36:38,800 --> 00:36:41,599
um like what are the things you can

1088
00:36:40,240 --> 00:36:43,119
approach them about what are the things

1089
00:36:41,599 --> 00:36:44,480
you need to just smile and nod and

1090
00:36:43,119 --> 00:36:46,960
listen to and what are the things that

1091
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:50,400
you need to understand that when your uh

1092
00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:53,520
10 year old child uh says that he

1093
00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:54,800
that you you murdered a bart keeper uh

1094
00:36:53,520 --> 00:36:57,280
that it doesn't mean that they're

1095
00:36:54,800 --> 00:36:59,599
turning into a sociopath you know like

1096
00:36:57,280 --> 00:37:03,040
you know uh so that's my that's my real

1097
00:36:59,599 --> 00:37:07,560
role is the nerd linguist as it were

1098
00:37:03,040 --> 00:37:07,560
and being able to the nerd whisperer

1099
00:37:08,000 --> 00:37:14,720
uh an interface uh as they say uh i i do

1100
00:37:12,480 --> 00:37:17,920
it in a very not professional capacity

1101
00:37:14,720 --> 00:37:20,240
for my uh my sister's kids um i saw my

1102
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:22,560
two nephews 13 and uh

1103
00:37:20,240 --> 00:37:25,200
10. obviously they are very much

1104
00:37:22,560 --> 00:37:28,160
fortnight in minecraft generation

1105
00:37:25,200 --> 00:37:29,359
and despite me being 20 years older than

1106
00:37:28,160 --> 00:37:31,599
them

1107
00:37:29,359 --> 00:37:32,880
i am the closest they have in their in

1108
00:37:31,599 --> 00:37:34,000
that in their wider families obviously

1109
00:37:32,880 --> 00:37:36,079
they've got their mum and their dad my

1110
00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:37,440
grandparents and their other uncle but i

1111
00:37:36,079 --> 00:37:40,240
am the closest they have in terms of

1112
00:37:37,440 --> 00:37:42,240
generation to understanding you know

1113
00:37:40,240 --> 00:37:43,359
if they start flossing they don't mean

1114
00:37:42,240 --> 00:37:45,760
they're going to go and do some dental

1115
00:37:43,359 --> 00:37:48,000
hygiene i know what they're going to go

1116
00:37:45,760 --> 00:37:48,000
and do

1117
00:37:48,640 --> 00:37:52,560
and like if they're talking about you

1118
00:37:49,760 --> 00:37:55,599
know chapter seven in in in fortnight is

1119
00:37:52,560 --> 00:37:58,240
dropped i'm like i have i don't play it

1120
00:37:55,599 --> 00:37:59,920
but i know what i this context of what

1121
00:37:58,240 --> 00:38:02,160
you're talking about makes sense to me

1122
00:37:59,920 --> 00:38:04,480
whereas both you know so i i'm kind of

1123
00:38:02,160 --> 00:38:05,599
that interface for him and his parents

1124
00:38:04,480 --> 00:38:08,400
to a certain extent because they are

1125
00:38:05,599 --> 00:38:09,839
like we're buying him this thing and i'm

1126
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:11,359
like yeah don't don't you probably don't

1127
00:38:09,839 --> 00:38:12,560
need to do that like

1128
00:38:11,359 --> 00:38:14,160
because

1129
00:38:12,560 --> 00:38:15,839
it's a waste of money or this that the

1130
00:38:14,160 --> 00:38:16,960
other oh yeah no and you know what's

1131
00:38:15,839 --> 00:38:18,560
really funny is you always you always

1132
00:38:16,960 --> 00:38:20,960
come up with those kids that think that

1133
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:23,119
that mum and dad they try to they know

1134
00:38:20,960 --> 00:38:24,720
so little and they try to try to

1135
00:38:23,119 --> 00:38:27,520
twist things around on them like i had

1136
00:38:24,720 --> 00:38:29,839
this kid who i who i dealt with who

1137
00:38:27,520 --> 00:38:32,880
convinced mom and dad to to fork out

1138
00:38:29,839 --> 00:38:34,079
like a three thousand dollar high tech

1139
00:38:32,880 --> 00:38:36,160
computer

1140
00:38:34,079 --> 00:38:38,560
for what was effectively a community

1141
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:41,839
class a community course called like for

1142
00:38:38,560 --> 00:38:44,000
it yeah and it was like you know yeah no

1143
00:38:41,839 --> 00:38:45,920
you see the the level of like education

1144
00:38:44,000 --> 00:38:47,760
people get for that level you don't

1145
00:38:45,920 --> 00:38:51,520
require three thousand dollars to build

1146
00:38:47,760 --> 00:38:51,520
your own like custom gaming rig

1147
00:38:51,680 --> 00:38:55,599
you know yeah yeah but mom and dad are

1148
00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:58,320
like oh yes no he's he's into the

1149
00:38:55,599 --> 00:39:01,760
computer thing and uh and the internet

1150
00:38:58,320 --> 00:39:03,359
uh he needs this this this device and he

1151
00:39:01,760 --> 00:39:04,480
just gave us a budget and i was just

1152
00:39:03,359 --> 00:39:07,119
like

1153
00:39:04,480 --> 00:39:10,079
no no he's lying to you like you

1154
00:39:07,119 --> 00:39:11,440
absolutely do not need like a a geforce

1155
00:39:10,079 --> 00:39:14,320
12 series

1156
00:39:11,440 --> 00:39:16,000
graphics card to uh to do i t uh if

1157
00:39:14,320 --> 00:39:18,160
you've ever been to any office in

1158
00:39:16,000 --> 00:39:21,119
australia you know that none of these

1159
00:39:18,160 --> 00:39:23,280
computers are

1160
00:39:21,119 --> 00:39:24,960
these these computers are you know like

1161
00:39:23,280 --> 00:39:29,040
there are some of our computers where

1162
00:39:24,960 --> 00:39:31,680
the keys uh are still like make the ch

1163
00:39:29,040 --> 00:39:33,040
every time we type it right like there's

1164
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:34,400
there's definitely uh there's definitely

1165
00:39:33,040 --> 00:39:35,680
something to be said about that but um

1166
00:39:34,400 --> 00:39:37,680
but yeah you know

1167
00:39:35,680 --> 00:39:39,599
i mean look i'm not one to oust you know

1168
00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:41,200
kids but i'm also one to like make sure

1169
00:39:39,599 --> 00:39:43,760
that there's there's there's kindness

1170
00:39:41,200 --> 00:39:45,040
between both gaps you know like yeah

1171
00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:47,520
you know because i also know that

1172
00:39:45,040 --> 00:39:50,000
parents tend to call me up and say uh

1173
00:39:47,520 --> 00:39:52,720
excuse me but my child appears to be

1174
00:39:50,000 --> 00:39:54,560
using far too much of this internet i

1175
00:39:52,720 --> 00:39:56,800
don't know what a fortnight is but he's

1176
00:39:54,560 --> 00:39:58,960
been playing it since till till five in

1177
00:39:56,800 --> 00:40:01,520
the morning and it's unacceptable i

1178
00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:03,200
think he might be a gaming addict and

1179
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:07,680
it's like well no no he's not a gaming

1180
00:40:03,200 --> 00:40:11,119
addict um he is a victim of very clever

1181
00:40:07,680 --> 00:40:13,440
uh game formatting because between a

1182
00:40:11,119 --> 00:40:15,280
a session of fortnight between match one

1183
00:40:13,440 --> 00:40:16,800
and two you have the better part of a

1184
00:40:15,280 --> 00:40:18,560
minute to

1185
00:40:16,800 --> 00:40:20,480
come down from a dopamine rush in order

1186
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:22,480
to have enough cognitive processing

1187
00:40:20,480 --> 00:40:24,400
power to be able to turn around and go i

1188
00:40:22,480 --> 00:40:25,680
am tired i want to go to bed

1189
00:40:24,400 --> 00:40:27,119
but by the time you're in a game you're

1190
00:40:25,680 --> 00:40:29,200
like well i'm in a game and i don't want

1191
00:40:27,119 --> 00:40:30,720
to be punished by uh leaving the game

1192
00:40:29,200 --> 00:40:33,119
too early because their game actually

1193
00:40:30,720 --> 00:40:35,680
will punish you for doing that and um

1194
00:40:33,119 --> 00:40:37,520
and i'm now in a in another game so uh

1195
00:40:35,680 --> 00:40:40,560
you know it's not their fault that

1196
00:40:37,520 --> 00:40:42,160
they're stuck in a loop until 5 am

1197
00:40:40,560 --> 00:40:43,760
what you could do is you could go and

1198
00:40:42,160 --> 00:40:45,359
say hey i'm going to play your game of

1199
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:46,960
fortnight with you

1200
00:40:45,359 --> 00:40:48,880
we'll do one more match and then when

1201
00:40:46,960 --> 00:40:50,640
that match concludes be the one to turn

1202
00:40:48,880 --> 00:40:52,560
around and say hey

1203
00:40:50,640 --> 00:40:54,720
okay it's bedtime as we've said and

1204
00:40:52,560 --> 00:40:56,079
they're more likely to you know stop

1205
00:40:54,720 --> 00:40:57,920
playing not because they're you know not

1206
00:40:56,079 --> 00:40:59,839
addicted but just because

1207
00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:00,880
they have that that break that's

1208
00:40:59,839 --> 00:41:03,359
something that's going to going to pull

1209
00:41:00,880 --> 00:41:05,359
them aside unless of course you fall

1210
00:41:03,359 --> 00:41:07,680
into the other category and both you and

1211
00:41:05,359 --> 00:41:09,280
your child are now up till 5am

1212
00:41:07,680 --> 00:41:11,359
because that's always that's always a

1213
00:41:09,280 --> 00:41:12,640
possibility but then it's bonding time

1214
00:41:11,359 --> 00:41:14,960
and it's uh

1215
00:41:12,640 --> 00:41:17,280
it's about family time family time so

1216
00:41:14,960 --> 00:41:19,839
yeah no there's it's very dynamic uh

1217
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:21,359
this this this particular topic

1218
00:41:19,839 --> 00:41:22,960
for sure and this is what i love doing

1219
00:41:21,359 --> 00:41:25,440
doing the podcast because several

1220
00:41:22,960 --> 00:41:27,920
several several times i've i've you know

1221
00:41:25,440 --> 00:41:29,520
ostensibly the topic is something even

1222
00:41:27,920 --> 00:41:31,680
esoteric like you know abstract like

1223
00:41:29,520 --> 00:41:34,720
assemblers today but even even when it

1224
00:41:31,680 --> 00:41:36,960
isn't it's more concrete we get onto

1225
00:41:34,720 --> 00:41:39,200
useful advice and tips like this and i

1226
00:41:36,960 --> 00:41:41,280
can't think of another d d podcast i'm

1227
00:41:39,200 --> 00:41:42,640
going to have a minor moment of self

1228
00:41:41,280 --> 00:41:43,920
patting myself on the back here but i

1229
00:41:42,640 --> 00:41:45,680
couldn't take off to my head of another

1230
00:41:43,920 --> 00:41:49,280
podcast that we we're talking about how

1231
00:41:45,680 --> 00:41:50,800
to deal with your kids

1232
00:41:49,280 --> 00:41:52,240
we started talking about it yeah well

1233
00:41:50,800 --> 00:41:53,359
well it's well the thing is is that

1234
00:41:52,240 --> 00:41:55,040
that's what assembly is all about

1235
00:41:53,359 --> 00:41:57,200
assembly is about bonding and as we were

1236
00:41:55,040 --> 00:41:58,880
saying one of the one of the three major

1237
00:41:57,200 --> 00:41:59,599
types of assembly for role-playing games

1238
00:41:58,880 --> 00:42:00,880
is

1239
00:41:59,599 --> 00:42:02,319
bringing people together and putting

1240
00:42:00,880 --> 00:42:04,079
people together whether that's for a

1241
00:42:02,319 --> 00:42:06,240
role-playing game or for community for

1242
00:42:04,079 --> 00:42:09,280
gaming in general right the the advice

1243
00:42:06,240 --> 00:42:10,640
still stands you know um yeah cause

1244
00:42:09,280 --> 00:42:12,240
because that's that's what it's all

1245
00:42:10,640 --> 00:42:13,599
about like

1246
00:42:12,240 --> 00:42:15,920
role-playing games are a type of

1247
00:42:13,599 --> 00:42:17,920
community that is just incredibly

1248
00:42:15,920 --> 00:42:20,160
welcoming i mean sure you'll have every

1249
00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,839
now and then the kind of gate guardians

1250
00:42:20,160 --> 00:42:24,000
who sit there and you know talk about

1251
00:42:21,839 --> 00:42:27,119
quote unquote real d

1252
00:42:24,000 --> 00:42:29,119
um but i find for every one of those i

1253
00:42:27,119 --> 00:42:31,440
find like a hundred different people who

1254
00:42:29,119 --> 00:42:32,720
are like please come and play with us

1255
00:42:31,440 --> 00:42:35,119
are you a gm

1256
00:42:32,720 --> 00:42:35,119
uh you know

1257
00:42:36,480 --> 00:42:39,599
yeah that's uh that's definitely

1258
00:42:37,920 --> 00:42:41,119
definitely the vibe from from the

1259
00:42:39,599 --> 00:42:42,240
community

1260
00:42:41,119 --> 00:42:45,520
for sure

1261
00:42:42,240 --> 00:42:46,480
so we talked a lot about out of game i

1262
00:42:45,520 --> 00:42:48,079
know you can't really make that

1263
00:42:46,480 --> 00:42:49,839
distinction there's clean cut as that

1264
00:42:48,079 --> 00:42:53,200
but let's say meta

1265
00:42:49,839 --> 00:42:54,960
s assembly if we talk in game a little

1266
00:42:53,200 --> 00:42:56,160
bit so and you should be very very good

1267
00:42:54,960 --> 00:42:57,280
on this topic

1268
00:42:56,160 --> 00:42:59,119
because

1269
00:42:57,280 --> 00:43:00,720
there's so many tropes around you know

1270
00:42:59,119 --> 00:43:03,520
starting in a tavern or one or getting

1271
00:43:00,720 --> 00:43:05,359
the pcs together or whatever it might be

1272
00:43:03,520 --> 00:43:08,000
of your system of choice there's likely

1273
00:43:05,359 --> 00:43:10,480
a trope if it's that open-ended

1274
00:43:08,000 --> 00:43:11,520
kind of home brewery thing uh rather

1275
00:43:10,480 --> 00:43:12,720
than say something like aliens or

1276
00:43:11,520 --> 00:43:14,960
something which is

1277
00:43:12,720 --> 00:43:16,319
you're already in a pre-packed

1278
00:43:14,960 --> 00:43:17,520
thing that you're doing yeah you're on a

1279
00:43:16,319 --> 00:43:19,839
ship something's come and get you you

1280
00:43:17,520 --> 00:43:21,839
know like yeah um so in terms of like

1281
00:43:19,839 --> 00:43:23,839
the former then that kind of open-ended

1282
00:43:21,839 --> 00:43:27,200
starting in the tavern quote-unquote

1283
00:43:23,839 --> 00:43:29,119
what have you got any tips on how to do

1284
00:43:27,200 --> 00:43:31,839
that is that a is that a big faux pas

1285
00:43:29,119 --> 00:43:33,280
for you or is that a no no no

1286
00:43:31,839 --> 00:43:36,079
okay so here here's a couple of things

1287
00:43:33,280 --> 00:43:38,000
let's start with um

1288
00:43:36,079 --> 00:43:40,640
let's start with building characters

1289
00:43:38,000 --> 00:43:42,480
assembling your character table now

1290
00:43:40,640 --> 00:43:45,599
here's one of the big rules that i have

1291
00:43:42,480 --> 00:43:47,680
is if the gm is responsible to

1292
00:43:45,599 --> 00:43:50,160
come up with at least a starting concept

1293
00:43:47,680 --> 00:43:51,680
for a game table i what i hate is

1294
00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:53,200
coming up to a game table as a gm and

1295
00:43:51,680 --> 00:43:54,480
saying we're playing d d what are we

1296
00:43:53,200 --> 00:43:55,839
doing huh

1297
00:43:54,480 --> 00:43:57,920
and then i'll figure it out you know

1298
00:43:55,839 --> 00:43:59,760
like for me that's that's nothing to get

1299
00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,760
excited about that's there's nothing for

1300
00:43:59,760 --> 00:44:03,200
me to build a character in like i don't

1301
00:44:01,760 --> 00:44:04,480
have a world i don't have a story i

1302
00:44:03,200 --> 00:44:07,040
don't have nothing

1303
00:44:04,480 --> 00:44:09,200
but what i uh what i always do when i am

1304
00:44:07,040 --> 00:44:10,960
a gm is i'll give people a hook or

1305
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:14,079
something to really entice them or get

1306
00:44:10,960 --> 00:44:16,640
them excited and from there i require my

1307
00:44:14,079 --> 00:44:18,319
players to have three different things

1308
00:44:16,640 --> 00:44:20,079
for every single

1309
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:22,720
game that i play

1310
00:44:20,079 --> 00:44:23,920
the first is you must have a tangible

1311
00:44:22,720 --> 00:44:25,760
reason

1312
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:28,240
to go on this adventure why is your

1313
00:44:25,760 --> 00:44:30,240
character uh like let's let let's make

1314
00:44:28,240 --> 00:44:33,359
one together give me a uh give me a

1315
00:44:30,240 --> 00:44:36,560
location get like a a a biome as it were

1316
00:44:33,359 --> 00:44:37,440
a location environment yadda yadda uh

1317
00:44:36,560 --> 00:44:39,119
let's

1318
00:44:37,440 --> 00:44:40,880
look like um snowy mountain in this

1319
00:44:39,119 --> 00:44:42,960
region then cool snowy mountainous

1320
00:44:40,880 --> 00:44:46,160
region uh give me a

1321
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:47,440
um a npc can be good can be bad can be

1322
00:44:46,160 --> 00:44:49,200
evil anything

1323
00:44:47,440 --> 00:44:50,880
let's go with something like a like a

1324
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,599
trapper you know like a woodsman trapper

1325
00:44:50,880 --> 00:44:56,079
kind of person who catches hairs all

1326
00:44:53,599 --> 00:44:58,079
right sweet now uh i want you to give me

1327
00:44:56,079 --> 00:45:02,000
one of these three choices

1328
00:44:58,079 --> 00:45:03,599
hold your ground run towards or run away

1329
00:45:02,000 --> 00:45:04,400
hold your ground

1330
00:45:03,599 --> 00:45:05,280
cool

1331
00:45:04,400 --> 00:45:07,040
so

1332
00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:09,440
hold your ground adventures are where

1333
00:45:07,040 --> 00:45:11,839
you are trying to maintain something

1334
00:45:09,440 --> 00:45:13,920
um or trying to keep the natural order

1335
00:45:11,839 --> 00:45:15,520
of of the environment around you against

1336
00:45:13,920 --> 00:45:16,960
something so for example if a troll is

1337
00:45:15,520 --> 00:45:18,319
trying to attack your village you're

1338
00:45:16,960 --> 00:45:20,160
defending the village against the troll

1339
00:45:18,319 --> 00:45:21,440
for example so using these three

1340
00:45:20,160 --> 00:45:22,960
elements what i would say is the hook

1341
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:26,000
for this game is

1342
00:45:22,960 --> 00:45:29,200
that your town is in the snowy mountains

1343
00:45:26,000 --> 00:45:31,200
and you are part of the community here

1344
00:45:29,200 --> 00:45:34,160
there is a ranger who serves as the

1345
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:37,040
town's burger meister or the uh the the

1346
00:45:34,160 --> 00:45:39,040
respective leader of the town uh and

1347
00:45:37,040 --> 00:45:40,560
they're the person who every season will

1348
00:45:39,040 --> 00:45:41,440
head down the mountain towards the major

1349
00:45:40,560 --> 00:45:44,560
city

1350
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:46,720
and um gain some like sundry supplies

1351
00:45:44,560 --> 00:45:48,000
things that the town needs and escorted

1352
00:45:46,720 --> 00:45:50,880
back because of how treacherous the

1353
00:45:48,000 --> 00:45:53,040
mountain path is now unfortunately he

1354
00:45:50,880 --> 00:45:55,359
has not returned uh you don't know where

1355
00:45:53,040 --> 00:45:56,560
they are this has caused from uh caused

1356
00:45:55,359 --> 00:45:59,440
some issues

1357
00:45:56,560 --> 00:46:01,119
so a small group have been deployed to

1358
00:45:59,440 --> 00:46:03,440
go and try and find the whereabouts of

1359
00:46:01,119 --> 00:46:06,160
the wagon the needed supplies and bring

1360
00:46:03,440 --> 00:46:09,119
them back to the town so that you know

1361
00:46:06,160 --> 00:46:11,440
you can last through the harsh winter so

1362
00:46:09,119 --> 00:46:13,280
that's our story now my requirement for

1363
00:46:11,440 --> 00:46:14,640
you when you build your character would

1364
00:46:13,280 --> 00:46:16,400
be

1365
00:46:14,640 --> 00:46:18,240
your character must be invested in this

1366
00:46:16,400 --> 00:46:19,440
story now this could be that maybe you

1367
00:46:18,240 --> 00:46:21,520
are making a character that's the

1368
00:46:19,440 --> 00:46:23,599
grandson of the burgermeister maybe

1369
00:46:21,520 --> 00:46:25,520
you're making a character who is uh you

1370
00:46:23,599 --> 00:46:27,680
know a baker who is in need of flour and

1371
00:46:25,520 --> 00:46:29,760
they're the town is simply out of flour

1372
00:46:27,680 --> 00:46:31,599
maybe you're one of the town guards and

1373
00:46:29,760 --> 00:46:33,280
you are simply the most qualified person

1374
00:46:31,599 --> 00:46:35,520
because the other gods have already gone

1375
00:46:33,280 --> 00:46:37,920
with the burger meister right

1376
00:46:35,520 --> 00:46:39,599
whatever the reason you can concoct for

1377
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:40,880
whatever build or whatever character

1378
00:46:39,599 --> 00:46:43,440
you're making

1379
00:46:40,880 --> 00:46:44,480
you must be connected to the story

1380
00:46:43,440 --> 00:46:45,599
because what i don't want to do is i

1381
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:48,720
don't want to get to the story and then

1382
00:46:45,599 --> 00:46:50,400
have to find a way to shoehorn your

1383
00:46:48,720 --> 00:46:52,880
person who is on a quest to find their

1384
00:46:50,400 --> 00:46:54,480
lost sibling who vanished in the deserts

1385
00:46:52,880 --> 00:46:56,800
of amandir

1386
00:46:54,480 --> 00:46:59,200
while exploring a pyramid right it's

1387
00:46:56,800 --> 00:47:01,200
like cool i have absolutely no idea why

1388
00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:03,440
you're chasing after this burger meister

1389
00:47:01,200 --> 00:47:04,960
why you were in the snowy mountains why

1390
00:47:03,440 --> 00:47:06,960
you give two dams of if these people

1391
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:09,440
survive you know that's not my role

1392
00:47:06,960 --> 00:47:10,960
right so that's number one number one

1393
00:47:09,440 --> 00:47:12,240
connect to the story

1394
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:15,119
number two

1395
00:47:12,240 --> 00:47:18,640
you must have a valid reason to connect

1396
00:47:15,119 --> 00:47:20,640
with and expect the success of the party

1397
00:47:18,640 --> 00:47:23,280
that means to say even if you are an

1398
00:47:20,640 --> 00:47:25,680
edge lord even if you're someone who you

1399
00:47:23,280 --> 00:47:26,800
know is uh is basically like hey my name

1400
00:47:25,680 --> 00:47:29,280
is uh

1401
00:47:26,800 --> 00:47:30,800
dark shadow moonlight

1402
00:47:29,280 --> 00:47:33,440
and uh

1403
00:47:30,800 --> 00:47:35,200
and my goal here is to steal as much as

1404
00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:37,280
i can from everyone

1405
00:47:35,200 --> 00:47:39,040
it's like cool very well dark shadow

1406
00:47:37,280 --> 00:47:40,559
moonlight why are you working with all

1407
00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:44,720
these other people

1408
00:47:40,559 --> 00:47:47,680
i i work alone nope try again

1409
00:47:44,720 --> 00:47:50,000
okay what if uh what if my character was

1410
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:51,839
arrested for doing something so dark and

1411
00:47:50,000 --> 00:47:54,160
edgy and now i'm working through

1412
00:47:51,839 --> 00:47:56,160
community service with this other guy

1413
00:47:54,160 --> 00:47:59,040
who is actually the town like the town

1414
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:00,559
guardsmen great perfect backstory you

1415
00:47:59,040 --> 00:48:02,240
are invested here you don't want to go

1416
00:48:00,559 --> 00:48:03,760
back to jail and in order to avoid going

1417
00:48:02,240 --> 00:48:04,960
back to jail you have to do what this

1418
00:48:03,760 --> 00:48:06,800
guy says

1419
00:48:04,960 --> 00:48:08,640
uh you can continue to be as edgy as

1420
00:48:06,800 --> 00:48:10,400
hell but as long as you continue doing

1421
00:48:08,640 --> 00:48:12,160
this you stay out of jail and you're not

1422
00:48:10,400 --> 00:48:13,839
on the run from the law and more

1423
00:48:12,160 --> 00:48:15,359
importantly you as a player know that

1424
00:48:13,839 --> 00:48:17,119
your character can keep playing the game

1425
00:48:15,359 --> 00:48:18,800
because if you choose to escape then

1426
00:48:17,119 --> 00:48:20,160
yeah i'll let you escape but the

1427
00:48:18,800 --> 00:48:22,480
character runs off and you come up with

1428
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:24,400
a new character yes yeah

1429
00:48:22,480 --> 00:48:26,079
so that's the that's you know how you

1430
00:48:24,400 --> 00:48:28,480
connect to the story

1431
00:48:26,079 --> 00:48:30,800
uh the third and final one is

1432
00:48:28,480 --> 00:48:34,800
what is your personal motivation why are

1433
00:48:30,800 --> 00:48:37,920
you not an npc this one's very fluid and

1434
00:48:34,800 --> 00:48:39,200
this is for me as a gm my my um

1435
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:41,680
inspiration

1436
00:48:39,200 --> 00:48:43,119
this can be those like you know yeah i'm

1437
00:48:41,680 --> 00:48:45,200
you know like yeah sure i was also

1438
00:48:43,119 --> 00:48:47,440
separated from my sister at birth i'm

1439
00:48:45,200 --> 00:48:49,119
trying to find my sister so i've decided

1440
00:48:47,440 --> 00:48:50,480
to journey away from the town in order

1441
00:48:49,119 --> 00:48:53,040
to look for her

1442
00:48:50,480 --> 00:48:54,640
you know what i mean so these are those

1443
00:48:53,040 --> 00:48:55,680
those stories that then get added in

1444
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:57,920
order to

1445
00:48:55,680 --> 00:49:00,079
inspire me to then write back stories

1446
00:48:57,920 --> 00:49:02,480
and write these these features into my

1447
00:49:00,079 --> 00:49:04,079
adventure so when i assemble my table

1448
00:49:02,480 --> 00:49:05,359
when i put them all together these are

1449
00:49:04,079 --> 00:49:07,119
the things i look for these are the

1450
00:49:05,359 --> 00:49:09,359
things i expect from my players because

1451
00:49:07,119 --> 00:49:12,079
once all of those come in

1452
00:49:09,359 --> 00:49:15,599
you have very little work to do

1453
00:49:12,079 --> 00:49:17,280
to get them together and on the road

1454
00:49:15,599 --> 00:49:18,880
and yeah like some of them will create

1455
00:49:17,280 --> 00:49:19,839
their own connections to each other some

1456
00:49:18,880 --> 00:49:21,920
of them will

1457
00:49:19,839 --> 00:49:23,520
um will already be familiar with them

1458
00:49:21,920 --> 00:49:25,599
even if they're not friends they kind of

1459
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:27,680
have a pre-built relationship

1460
00:49:25,599 --> 00:49:31,200
and it's just about exploring it

1461
00:49:27,680 --> 00:49:33,280
so that's how that prep work

1462
00:49:31,200 --> 00:49:34,960
helps with my assembly

1463
00:49:33,280 --> 00:49:38,000
from there on in

1464
00:49:34,960 --> 00:49:39,920
the location um the location doesn't

1465
00:49:38,000 --> 00:49:41,040
matter so much i know that there are

1466
00:49:39,920 --> 00:49:43,680
some people out there who turn around

1467
00:49:41,040 --> 00:49:45,440
and poo poo the idea of a tavern and i

1468
00:49:43,680 --> 00:49:47,599
want to say this to you and i want

1469
00:49:45,440 --> 00:49:49,920
anyone who who believes that taverns are

1470
00:49:47,599 --> 00:49:51,920
boring to lean in really close right

1471
00:49:49,920 --> 00:49:52,960
just just lean in close to your to your

1472
00:49:51,920 --> 00:49:56,480
headphones

1473
00:49:52,960 --> 00:49:58,400
listen very carefully you ready okay

1474
00:49:56,480 --> 00:50:01,040
the tavern is not boring

1475
00:49:58,400 --> 00:50:03,040
you're boring

1476
00:50:01,040 --> 00:50:04,800
taverns are some of the most amazing

1477
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:07,839
places if you put your imagination and

1478
00:50:04,800 --> 00:50:09,520
minds to it i i i mean sure you can be

1479
00:50:07,839 --> 00:50:10,800
more creative and you can put yourself

1480
00:50:09,520 --> 00:50:12,240
somewhere else like you know there are

1481
00:50:10,800 --> 00:50:14,960
lots of places to find yourself the

1482
00:50:12,240 --> 00:50:17,119
guard post at a dock at a on a mountain

1483
00:50:14,960 --> 00:50:18,559
you know wow hunting elks or whatever

1484
00:50:17,119 --> 00:50:19,520
but there is nothing wrong with a good

1485
00:50:18,559 --> 00:50:21,280
tavern

1486
00:50:19,520 --> 00:50:23,839
a good tavern doesn't have to be made of

1487
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:27,040
wood and have a bartender a a good

1488
00:50:23,839 --> 00:50:30,240
tavern could be a clockwork mechanism

1489
00:50:27,040 --> 00:50:32,640
built by warforgers that when you enter

1490
00:50:30,240 --> 00:50:35,280
will automatically drag you through a

1491
00:50:32,640 --> 00:50:37,359
buffet line before placing you onto a

1492
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:39,040
seat with a professional number on it

1493
00:50:37,359 --> 00:50:42,720
where a tiny little

1494
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:44,240
mechanical half-bodied robot pops up to

1495
00:50:42,720 --> 00:50:47,920
be your server

1496
00:50:44,240 --> 00:50:50,160
it can be a fungal forest where

1497
00:50:47,920 --> 00:50:51,599
fairies actually serve you drinks and

1498
00:50:50,160 --> 00:50:54,240
the like

1499
00:50:51,599 --> 00:50:56,319
where magic is used in all the meals and

1500
00:50:54,240 --> 00:50:58,720
all the dishes um you could find

1501
00:50:56,319 --> 00:51:01,040
yourself in a tavern that is kind of at

1502
00:50:58,720 --> 00:51:03,440
the bottom of a rusty old ship that has

1503
00:51:01,040 --> 00:51:06,160
been gutted and beached uh filled with

1504
00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:09,280
pirates and scallywags who are you know

1505
00:51:06,160 --> 00:51:11,119
rotten teeth and you know like it like

1506
00:51:09,280 --> 00:51:13,359
if your tavern is just

1507
00:51:11,119 --> 00:51:15,520
a place you put your place to start an

1508
00:51:13,359 --> 00:51:16,400
adventure then then yeah of course it's

1509
00:51:15,520 --> 00:51:17,680
going to be boring because you haven't

1510
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:20,160
filled it with anything

1511
00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:23,200
colorful characters colorful decor

1512
00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:25,440
unique foods like i have a horror game

1513
00:51:23,200 --> 00:51:26,800
uh where a long time ago when i when i

1514
00:51:25,440 --> 00:51:28,800
made it i made a tavern called the

1515
00:51:26,800 --> 00:51:32,559
tequila mockingbird

1516
00:51:28,800 --> 00:51:34,160
and it was a place where they served uh

1517
00:51:32,559 --> 00:51:36,400
vampire steaks

1518
00:51:34,160 --> 00:51:38,160
you know because it was just funny uh

1519
00:51:36,400 --> 00:51:39,680
and it was yeah just these bloody raw

1520
00:51:38,160 --> 00:51:42,640
steaks that were you know like kind of

1521
00:51:39,680 --> 00:51:44,160
served on on a bed of garlic um you know

1522
00:51:42,640 --> 00:51:45,839
and and there were just lots of little

1523
00:51:44,160 --> 00:51:48,079
little little cute things that was like

1524
00:51:45,839 --> 00:51:50,640
yeah this is a this is a like victorian

1525
00:51:48,079 --> 00:51:52,800
gothic horror themed place like there

1526
00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:54,559
was the jekyll and hyde potion as well

1527
00:51:52,800 --> 00:51:56,240
where uh the potion would come in like a

1528
00:51:54,559 --> 00:51:57,680
martini glass and you would like put a

1529
00:51:56,240 --> 00:51:59,440
couple of drops into it and it would

1530
00:51:57,680 --> 00:52:01,839
start smoking and then turn from like

1531
00:51:59,440 --> 00:52:03,040
this apple green to a vibrant red and

1532
00:52:01,839 --> 00:52:05,359
you would drink it it would be a health

1533
00:52:03,040 --> 00:52:08,559
potion right like

1534
00:52:05,359 --> 00:52:10,400
uh the bartender was a uh oh no the

1535
00:52:08,559 --> 00:52:12,559
bartender was a driver

1536
00:52:10,400 --> 00:52:15,200
who had sat behind the bench and

1537
00:52:12,559 --> 00:52:17,440
everyone thought it was a drow

1538
00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:19,200
like for the longest time and i think

1539
00:52:17,440 --> 00:52:21,760
the only time they figured it out was

1540
00:52:19,200 --> 00:52:23,040
when they

1541
00:52:21,760 --> 00:52:24,960
like they were being tracked by an

1542
00:52:23,040 --> 00:52:28,079
assassin the assassin followed them into

1543
00:52:24,960 --> 00:52:29,359
the tequila mockingbird um the assassin

1544
00:52:28,079 --> 00:52:31,280
originally wasn't going to do anything

1545
00:52:29,359 --> 00:52:33,119
but they figured out where he was

1546
00:52:31,280 --> 00:52:34,000
uh they attacked him and he attacked

1547
00:52:33,119 --> 00:52:35,599
back

1548
00:52:34,000 --> 00:52:37,440
and then all of a sudden the bartender

1549
00:52:35,599 --> 00:52:39,440
sort of crawled backwards from behind

1550
00:52:37,440 --> 00:52:42,400
his bar and up the wall and they were

1551
00:52:39,440 --> 00:52:44,000
and everyone was just like what the [ __ ]

1552
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:45,280
and then he webbed up the uh the

1553
00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,200
assassin

1554
00:52:45,280 --> 00:52:48,559
uh and then yeah from there on it was

1555
00:52:47,200 --> 00:52:50,079
just like you know it was such a cool

1556
00:52:48,559 --> 00:52:53,599
moment too so

1557
00:52:50,079 --> 00:52:55,599
again like taverns and bars and pubs and

1558
00:52:53,599 --> 00:52:58,079
all of these things can just be such

1559
00:52:55,599 --> 00:53:01,119
creative places if you allow them to be

1560
00:52:58,079 --> 00:53:02,960
um what's more important is like how

1561
00:53:01,119 --> 00:53:04,400
you build that scene because that's

1562
00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,319
what's going to happen it's going to be

1563
00:53:04,400 --> 00:53:07,839
whatever you make out of it

1564
00:53:06,319 --> 00:53:09,920
i think i was going to say once once

1565
00:53:07,839 --> 00:53:11,680
you've got those three pieces in order

1566
00:53:09,920 --> 00:53:14,000
like you said for your characters the

1567
00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:15,920
starting point physically becomes kind

1568
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:17,520
of moot in a way because it's the

1569
00:53:15,920 --> 00:53:19,200
important pieces are there so whatever

1570
00:53:17,520 --> 00:53:21,200
happens wherever they start it's the

1571
00:53:19,200 --> 00:53:23,280
adventure awaits exactly

1572
00:53:21,200 --> 00:53:24,880
yeah on inside the tavern on top of the

1573
00:53:23,280 --> 00:53:28,720
tavern because why not they're fixing

1574
00:53:24,880 --> 00:53:28,720
the roof who cares like who knows it's

1575
00:53:29,200 --> 00:53:32,880
whatever

1576
00:53:31,040 --> 00:53:34,160
i thought i was um

1577
00:53:32,880 --> 00:53:36,480
i'm planning to do a one-shot for a

1578
00:53:34,160 --> 00:53:38,720
couple of just three friends um in the

1579
00:53:36,480 --> 00:53:40,640
new year and we've kind of done a broad

1580
00:53:38,720 --> 00:53:42,559
session zero slash

1581
00:53:40,640 --> 00:53:43,839
this is what the game this is how you

1582
00:53:42,559 --> 00:53:45,839
play the game and how you make a

1583
00:53:43,839 --> 00:53:48,160
character and i think we're planning on

1584
00:53:45,839 --> 00:53:50,720
we were thinking planning on starting

1585
00:53:48,160 --> 00:53:52,960
at the end of a dungeon basically so

1586
00:53:50,720 --> 00:53:54,480
like we we joined two of them who had

1587
00:53:52,960 --> 00:53:55,680
already got to the end of a dungeon

1588
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,119
one's like the older brother looking

1589
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:58,640
after the younger one who's gone out

1590
00:53:57,119 --> 00:54:00,160
adventuring and the other one has come

1591
00:53:58,640 --> 00:54:01,599
to find them because they've taken too

1592
00:54:00,160 --> 00:54:03,280
long or whatnot so we were going to

1593
00:54:01,599 --> 00:54:05,599
start at the end of a dungeon and work

1594
00:54:03,280 --> 00:54:07,200
our way out um which i could have i

1595
00:54:05,599 --> 00:54:09,200
haven't i've done zero planning as you

1596
00:54:07,200 --> 00:54:10,400
can probably tell but i was in my head

1597
00:54:09,200 --> 00:54:11,359
thinking about that there's probably a

1598
00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:12,800
number of cool things that i could

1599
00:54:11,359 --> 00:54:13,599
probably work

1600
00:54:12,800 --> 00:54:15,280
in

1601
00:54:13,599 --> 00:54:16,880
to that environment of you know maybe

1602
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:17,839
they their route they took in was broken

1603
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,760
they have to take a different route out

1604
00:54:17,839 --> 00:54:20,720
which is full of like reverse traps like

1605
00:54:19,760 --> 00:54:22,000
the triggers are at the end of the

1606
00:54:20,720 --> 00:54:23,359
hallways and

1607
00:54:22,000 --> 00:54:25,280
and stuff because they're they're

1608
00:54:23,359 --> 00:54:28,400
leaving the dungeon and so on and so on

1609
00:54:25,280 --> 00:54:30,319
so um oh amazing again with that one i'd

1610
00:54:28,400 --> 00:54:32,079
inadvertently as i said i think i think

1611
00:54:30,319 --> 00:54:33,119
two are related and one's gone out

1612
00:54:32,079 --> 00:54:34,480
adventuring for some reason i can't

1613
00:54:33,119 --> 00:54:36,240
remember what it was but again it was a

1614
00:54:34,480 --> 00:54:38,799
couple of those checkboxes had been

1615
00:54:36,240 --> 00:54:40,720
checked already and which is why it's it

1616
00:54:38,799 --> 00:54:43,200
was kind of trivial to to come up with

1617
00:54:40,720 --> 00:54:44,960
this seemingly wacky idea but the point

1618
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:46,640
being is that it isn't wacky because

1619
00:54:44,960 --> 00:54:48,400
it is what it is at that point you can

1620
00:54:46,640 --> 00:54:50,160
yeah exactly and it's not it's not that

1621
00:54:48,400 --> 00:54:51,200
it's not that the location is not

1622
00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:54,000
important

1623
00:54:51,200 --> 00:54:56,240
is that the location goes from having to

1624
00:54:54,000 --> 00:54:58,079
be somewhere for your adventure in order

1625
00:54:56,240 --> 00:54:59,760
to link everyone up like gathering

1626
00:54:58,079 --> 00:55:02,160
everyone because they're all answering a

1627
00:54:59,760 --> 00:55:04,079
wanted ad to meet the quest giver

1628
00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:06,319
to it doesn't matter where it goes

1629
00:55:04,079 --> 00:55:08,079
because you've built those foundations

1630
00:55:06,319 --> 00:55:09,520
of the back story the connection to the

1631
00:55:08,079 --> 00:55:11,040
party and the

1632
00:55:09,520 --> 00:55:13,440
self-motivation

1633
00:55:11,040 --> 00:55:15,520
that as a gm yeah you can put them

1634
00:55:13,440 --> 00:55:16,720
anywhere and in fact most of the time i

1635
00:55:15,520 --> 00:55:18,960
find that when i do that i'm more

1636
00:55:16,720 --> 00:55:20,480
inclined to split the party so that they

1637
00:55:18,960 --> 00:55:22,799
start in somewhere natural to their

1638
00:55:20,480 --> 00:55:24,880
characters and they simply drift towards

1639
00:55:22,799 --> 00:55:26,559
each other very naturally as well

1640
00:55:24,880 --> 00:55:28,079
and yeah sometimes that's a tavern

1641
00:55:26,559 --> 00:55:29,520
sometimes it's not so

1642
00:55:28,079 --> 00:55:31,520
yeah i'm definitely going to steal

1643
00:55:29,520 --> 00:55:33,119
tequila mockingbird i'm desperately

1644
00:55:31,520 --> 00:55:35,359
trying to find it you know a lot of

1645
00:55:33,119 --> 00:55:37,280
people have and i um

1646
00:55:35,359 --> 00:55:39,599
i've spoken about it a few times

1647
00:55:37,280 --> 00:55:41,760
um the tequila mockingbird has featured

1648
00:55:39,599 --> 00:55:43,760
as a donation

1649
00:55:41,760 --> 00:55:45,280
suggestion for a friend of mine's uh

1650
00:55:43,760 --> 00:55:47,440
stream as well so the tequila

1651
00:55:45,280 --> 00:55:49,280
mockingbird shows up in a few in a few

1652
00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:50,640
different streams here and there as i've

1653
00:55:49,280 --> 00:55:51,760
floated in chat and i've thrown out the

1654
00:55:50,640 --> 00:55:53,760
idea it's

1655
00:55:51,760 --> 00:55:55,520
a very cool name and i can't take full

1656
00:55:53,760 --> 00:55:57,359
credit for it uh it was actually one of

1657
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:59,200
my young kids from the youth center who

1658
00:55:57,359 --> 00:56:01,200
actually uh who actually came up with

1659
00:55:59,200 --> 00:56:02,960
the idea and we were throwing around a

1660
00:56:01,200 --> 00:56:05,119
whole bunch of things like the the

1661
00:56:02,960 --> 00:56:07,440
original tavern owner was a dwarf called

1662
00:56:05,119 --> 00:56:10,000
jaeger uh his last and so everyone would

1663
00:56:07,440 --> 00:56:11,920
call him jagermeister yeah uh you know

1664
00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,840
it was yeah it was yeah a lot of a lot

1665
00:56:11,920 --> 00:56:15,200
of fun little things there

1666
00:56:13,840 --> 00:56:18,480
[Music]

1667
00:56:15,200 --> 00:56:20,079
um we're coming towards time and i've i

1668
00:56:18,480 --> 00:56:21,440
mean my list is we've gone through about

1669
00:56:20,079 --> 00:56:22,880
30 of it but i don't know if there's

1670
00:56:21,440 --> 00:56:24,319
anything that um you really wanted to

1671
00:56:22,880 --> 00:56:27,040
discuss on this topic that we might not

1672
00:56:24,319 --> 00:56:28,960
have got around to yet um yeah i'll say

1673
00:56:27,040 --> 00:56:30,720
something very very brief about um

1674
00:56:28,960 --> 00:56:32,720
character composition

1675
00:56:30,720 --> 00:56:34,880
do not be afraid to

1676
00:56:32,720 --> 00:56:37,920
play your characters

1677
00:56:34,880 --> 00:56:39,599
with the non-ideal

1678
00:56:37,920 --> 00:56:42,960
party makeup right you do not need a

1679
00:56:39,599 --> 00:56:43,760
cleric a wizard a rogue and a fighter uh

1680
00:56:42,960 --> 00:56:46,240
you

1681
00:56:43,760 --> 00:56:48,640
do not need to even have four completely

1682
00:56:46,240 --> 00:56:50,480
different characters the thing is your

1683
00:56:48,640 --> 00:56:53,040
character is not defined by your sheet

1684
00:56:50,480 --> 00:56:54,559
i've played so many games in which i've

1685
00:56:53,040 --> 00:56:56,559
never touched a dice or even looked at

1686
00:56:54,559 --> 00:56:58,480
my sheet but the characters the

1687
00:56:56,559 --> 00:57:00,400
personality and the way that i was drove

1688
00:56:58,480 --> 00:57:01,520
my character drove me into whatever i

1689
00:57:00,400 --> 00:57:03,599
was

1690
00:57:01,520 --> 00:57:06,160
you could have two rogues who are

1691
00:57:03,599 --> 00:57:08,880
completely different but identical on

1692
00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:11,920
paper and it's not about what your

1693
00:57:08,880 --> 00:57:14,720
numbers are but what and how and why you

1694
00:57:11,920 --> 00:57:16,640
roll those dice in the first place um so

1695
00:57:14,720 --> 00:57:17,680
do remember that never be afraid to to

1696
00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:20,319
challenge

1697
00:57:17,680 --> 00:57:21,839
um what these characters are capable of

1698
00:57:20,319 --> 00:57:23,520
without having to sit there and sort of

1699
00:57:21,839 --> 00:57:25,280
go i ha oh well you know everywhere

1700
00:57:23,520 --> 00:57:26,880
we're playing this class so i can't play

1701
00:57:25,280 --> 00:57:28,319
a i can't play a cleric because we

1702
00:57:26,880 --> 00:57:29,520
already have one or i can't play a

1703
00:57:28,319 --> 00:57:32,240
paladin because we've already got a

1704
00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:35,520
fighter never never limit yourself that

1705
00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:38,079
way um but always make sure that um

1706
00:57:35,520 --> 00:57:39,839
that everyone is gonna have fun right

1707
00:57:38,079 --> 00:57:42,000
don't just make another don't just make

1708
00:57:39,839 --> 00:57:43,359
a character irrelevant to the other

1709
00:57:42,000 --> 00:57:44,640
person right like don't sort of look at

1710
00:57:43,359 --> 00:57:46,079
the other guy who's made a paladin and

1711
00:57:44,640 --> 00:57:48,240
go i'm gonna make the same paladin but

1712
00:57:46,079 --> 00:57:50,240
better you know

1713
00:57:48,240 --> 00:57:52,079
you know just be cool do your own thing

1714
00:57:50,240 --> 00:57:53,760
let them do their own thing and if you

1715
00:57:52,079 --> 00:57:55,200
find that you're doing the same thing

1716
00:57:53,760 --> 00:57:57,440
sit down and have a chat open up a

1717
00:57:55,200 --> 00:57:59,359
discussion and say hey i noticed that

1718
00:57:57,440 --> 00:58:00,880
your paladin of righteousness and light

1719
00:57:59,359 --> 00:58:02,559
is very similar to my paladin of

1720
00:58:00,880 --> 00:58:04,960
righteousness and light maybe there's a

1721
00:58:02,559 --> 00:58:07,280
way we can be different as personalities

1722
00:58:04,960 --> 00:58:10,079
but maybe be friends and have us be both

1723
00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:12,720
be paladins of light who are on a quest

1724
00:58:10,079 --> 00:58:15,680
united to uh act as like a you know

1725
00:58:12,720 --> 00:58:17,680
buddy cop combo to go and do justice you

1726
00:58:15,680 --> 00:58:19,440
know yeah like there are lots of

1727
00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:21,200
opportunities there that exist and yeah

1728
00:58:19,440 --> 00:58:23,920
just communication's the way to go about

1729
00:58:21,200 --> 00:58:25,440
it one thing i love leveraging about

1730
00:58:23,920 --> 00:58:27,520
ttrpgs

1731
00:58:25,440 --> 00:58:29,280
is the differences from video games

1732
00:58:27,520 --> 00:58:32,160
which is where they spend a lot of my

1733
00:58:29,280 --> 00:58:33,520
time as well so i really love to lean in

1734
00:58:32,160 --> 00:58:35,040
to those things that make ttr videos

1735
00:58:33,520 --> 00:58:37,119
ttrpgs because you can't get them

1736
00:58:35,040 --> 00:58:38,480
anywhere else and one of those things is

1737
00:58:37,119 --> 00:58:41,280
not needing

1738
00:58:38,480 --> 00:58:44,079
uh a tank a healer and three dps like

1739
00:58:41,280 --> 00:58:46,400
you don't need that so i'm hugely

1740
00:58:44,079 --> 00:58:48,880
encouraged being like just play just be

1741
00:58:46,400 --> 00:58:51,359
five barbarians no one that will be so

1742
00:58:48,880 --> 00:58:53,359
rad like please be five barbarians that

1743
00:58:51,359 --> 00:58:55,200
would be sick

1744
00:58:53,359 --> 00:58:58,400
i i definitely we have a we have plans

1745
00:58:55,200 --> 00:58:59,839
for a uh a band of kobold bards called

1746
00:58:58,400 --> 00:59:02,319
dragon force

1747
00:58:59,839 --> 00:59:03,680
uh in in in the works

1748
00:59:02,319 --> 00:59:05,119
it's one of those games that we want to

1749
00:59:03,680 --> 00:59:06,480
play one day but but haven't gotten

1750
00:59:05,119 --> 00:59:08,640
around to

1751
00:59:06,480 --> 00:59:10,240
yeah i i again i

1752
00:59:08,640 --> 00:59:11,920
that sounds great and like um i think

1753
00:59:10,240 --> 00:59:14,640
i've banded around on the podcast before

1754
00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:16,960
like four totals that are different

1755
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:19,040
ninja turtles yeah like it's it's a

1756
00:59:16,960 --> 00:59:20,480
classic and it would be so good and so

1757
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,680
fun and that's what i always like to

1758
00:59:20,480 --> 00:59:22,960
tell people when they're like oh i can't

1759
00:59:21,680 --> 00:59:24,079
like you said i can't play a paradigm so

1760
00:59:22,960 --> 00:59:25,839
we've already got a paladin there [ __ ]

1761
00:59:24,079 --> 00:59:27,440
that man just

1762
00:59:25,839 --> 00:59:29,040
do what you want

1763
00:59:27,440 --> 00:59:30,400
yeah yep yep and you know what people

1764
00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:32,400
think that we're just being polite no no

1765
00:59:30,400 --> 00:59:34,000
we mean like yeah no just do what you

1766
00:59:32,400 --> 00:59:35,839
want like have fun

1767
00:59:34,000 --> 00:59:37,599
uh talk to the other player and and find

1768
00:59:35,839 --> 00:59:38,799
those differences and have have a great

1769
00:59:37,599 --> 00:59:40,720
time

1770
00:59:38,799 --> 00:59:41,920
one one final thing on that topic that i

1771
00:59:40,720 --> 00:59:44,160
did want to say and i know we're

1772
00:59:41,920 --> 00:59:46,559
reaching time but um in another game

1773
00:59:44,160 --> 00:59:48,160
that i i used to play in there was a guy

1774
00:59:46,559 --> 00:59:49,839
we ended up rolling characters for like

1775
00:59:48,160 --> 00:59:51,520
three different occasions and he was

1776
00:59:49,839 --> 00:59:53,599
always like i'll wait until everyone

1777
00:59:51,520 --> 00:59:55,760
else is picked and then i'll pick

1778
00:59:53,599 --> 00:59:57,440
you know i'll plug the gap that remains

1779
00:59:55,760 --> 00:59:59,040
and so many times we're like don't worry

1780
00:59:57,440 --> 01:00:00,480
about that if you don't want to play a

1781
00:59:59,040 --> 01:00:01,839
healer don't play a healer because

1782
01:00:00,480 --> 01:00:03,680
chances are nobody else is going to want

1783
01:00:01,839 --> 01:00:05,040
to play healer and you don't need one

1784
01:00:03,680 --> 01:00:06,880
anyway and he's like no no i'll wait

1785
01:00:05,040 --> 01:00:07,760
i'll wait but it happens so many times i

1786
01:00:06,880 --> 01:00:10,559
think it's

1787
01:00:07,760 --> 01:00:11,680
that that is the bit that he finds he he

1788
01:00:10,559 --> 01:00:13,280
enjoys

1789
01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:15,359
filling the niche that's required of a

1790
01:00:13,280 --> 01:00:17,839
party so there is there is a a slight

1791
01:00:15,359 --> 01:00:19,680
double edged to that discussion in that

1792
01:00:17,839 --> 01:00:22,000
sometimes if people are wanting to do

1793
01:00:19,680 --> 01:00:23,680
that i think it's because they enjoy

1794
01:00:22,000 --> 01:00:24,720
being that thing that everybody else

1795
01:00:23,680 --> 01:00:26,079
needs

1796
01:00:24,720 --> 01:00:28,640
so yeah that was that my only last

1797
01:00:26,079 --> 01:00:31,760
little comment on on that one

1798
01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:33,520
anyway thank you for that discussion uh

1799
01:00:31,760 --> 01:00:35,920
is there anything you would like to

1800
01:00:33,520 --> 01:00:39,359
promote oh uh well that's very

1801
01:00:35,920 --> 01:00:41,599
interesting uh so uh as i mentioned i am

1802
01:00:39,359 --> 01:00:43,200
i'm just all over the internet uh and so

1803
01:00:41,599 --> 01:00:44,640
anywhere you can find deadly gamer you

1804
01:00:43,200 --> 01:00:45,480
will find me i have my own twitch

1805
01:00:44,640 --> 01:00:47,760
channel at

1806
01:00:45,480 --> 01:00:50,000
twitch.tv where you'll find me running a

1807
01:00:47,760 --> 01:00:52,319
lot of my very very uh casual type of

1808
01:00:50,000 --> 01:00:53,920
games i also have a handful of

1809
01:00:52,319 --> 01:00:55,520
professional games that i have with a

1810
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,359
lot of celebrities

1811
01:00:55,520 --> 01:00:58,880
i've done tons of games for conventions

1812
01:00:57,359 --> 01:01:01,040
online and things like that and i think

1813
01:00:58,880 --> 01:01:02,799
probably my most notable

1814
01:01:01,040 --> 01:01:04,400
appearances have been on the d d

1815
01:01:02,799 --> 01:01:06,960
official twitch channel

1816
01:01:04,400 --> 01:01:09,839
through two shows uh ghost of salt marsh

1817
01:01:06,960 --> 01:01:11,839
call of the kraken as well as uh descent

1818
01:01:09,839 --> 01:01:14,480
into avernus blood wars so i was

1819
01:01:11,839 --> 01:01:16,240
featured on both of those um

1820
01:01:14,480 --> 01:01:17,359
done a bunch of shows on how to be a

1821
01:01:16,240 --> 01:01:19,359
great gm

1822
01:01:17,359 --> 01:01:22,960
as well as

1823
01:01:19,359 --> 01:01:25,359
my biggest show to date actually uh is

1824
01:01:22,960 --> 01:01:28,559
on the dingo doodles channel where i

1825
01:01:25,359 --> 01:01:30,799
played with uh felix uh the dm4 for

1826
01:01:28,559 --> 01:01:33,040
dingo uh along with gothi and we did a

1827
01:01:30,799 --> 01:01:35,760
three-part promotional game for their

1828
01:01:33,040 --> 01:01:37,839
kickstarter for fool's gold uh which was

1829
01:01:35,760 --> 01:01:39,920
incredible so part one is on dingo

1830
01:01:37,839 --> 01:01:42,079
doodle's channel part two is on my

1831
01:01:39,920 --> 01:01:44,079
friend robert hartley gm's channel and

1832
01:01:42,079 --> 01:01:46,640
part three is on my channel as well so

1833
01:01:44,079 --> 01:01:48,960
you can check them out uh at uh yeah

1834
01:01:46,640 --> 01:01:50,880
those various places as well awesome so

1835
01:01:48,960 --> 01:01:52,079
uh all everything all those lovely

1836
01:01:50,880 --> 01:01:53,760
awesome links will be in the episode

1837
01:01:52,079 --> 01:01:56,400
description i would encourage you to

1838
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:58,480
check out michael's stuff oh and and and

1839
01:01:56,400 --> 01:02:00,640
and there's definitely more google is

1840
01:01:58,480 --> 01:02:02,640
like your best friend like

1841
01:02:00,640 --> 01:02:05,039
i'm on wsd20

1842
01:02:02,640 --> 01:02:07,280
um you know i've i've done stuff for

1843
01:02:05,039 --> 01:02:09,520
like perception studios and this just

1844
01:02:07,280 --> 01:02:10,640
yeah everywhere dude everywhere well

1845
01:02:09,520 --> 01:02:12,240
then i won't put any links in because

1846
01:02:10,640 --> 01:02:14,079
you're just everywhere so there's no

1847
01:02:12,240 --> 01:02:15,520
yeah just just put dead aussie gamer

1848
01:02:14,079 --> 01:02:17,280
look him up

1849
01:02:15,520 --> 01:02:19,119
you know my goal in this career has

1850
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:20,880
always been to be like man i know that

1851
01:02:19,119 --> 01:02:22,960
guy from somewhere like what the hell

1852
01:02:20,880 --> 01:02:25,599
like he's he's just in everything he's

1853
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:27,520
everywhere oh well you are one step

1854
01:02:25,599 --> 01:02:29,520
closer towards that goal after today

1855
01:02:27,520 --> 01:02:31,440
here

1856
01:02:29,520 --> 01:02:33,359
i hope so

1857
01:02:31,440 --> 01:02:35,440
uh so all that's left today's thank you

1858
01:02:33,359 --> 01:02:37,760
ever so much that was uh super fantastic

1859
01:02:35,440 --> 01:02:39,520
uh super yeah eye opening in some places

1860
01:02:37,760 --> 01:02:41,760
so now i really do appreciate the the

1861
01:02:39,520 --> 01:02:44,000
discussion on again uh

1862
01:02:41,760 --> 01:02:46,240
on paper quite an abstract topic but uh

1863
01:02:44,000 --> 01:02:47,200
i think we did a damn good job at it oh

1864
01:02:46,240 --> 01:02:49,280
thank you for having me it was

1865
01:02:47,200 --> 01:02:51,760
absolutely a pleasure dude awesome thank

1866
01:02:49,280 --> 01:02:54,319
you to everybody for listening at home

1867
01:02:51,760 --> 01:02:55,680
as usual all my at least all my links

1868
01:02:54,319 --> 01:02:57,839
will be in the episode description still

1869
01:02:55,680 --> 01:02:59,200
so please go and check those out

1870
01:02:57,839 --> 01:03:00,240
feel free to click through on some of

1871
01:02:59,200 --> 01:03:02,480
those

1872
01:03:00,240 --> 01:03:05,119
uh but otherwise thank you all for

1873
01:03:02,480 --> 01:03:06,720
listening and good night

1874
01:03:05,119 --> 01:03:07,680
and now it's time for the patreon shout

1875
01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:10,880
outs

1876
01:03:07,680 --> 01:03:13,599
thank you to robert hartley dm for viva

1877
01:03:10,880 --> 01:03:16,640
la dirt league and writer on the d d

1878
01:03:13,599 --> 01:03:18,640
logic web series i would encourage

1879
01:03:16,640 --> 01:03:21,280
everybody to check him out at robert

1880
01:03:18,640 --> 01:03:23,520
hartley gm on twitter and twitch

1881
01:03:21,280 --> 01:03:25,920
thank you to optional rule a two time

1882
01:03:23,520 --> 01:03:28,720
guest of the show and a very insightful

1883
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:30,000
and knowledgeable source of information

1884
01:03:28,720 --> 01:03:33,000
please check them out at

1885
01:03:30,000 --> 01:03:33,000
www.optionalrule.com

1886
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:38,720
huge huge huge thank you to a great

1887
01:03:36,240 --> 01:03:41,200
friend of the show matthew perkins who's

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out there making hilarious and

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educational dungeons and dragons content

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please go and check out his stuff at

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matthewperkins.net where you can find

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links to all of his socials and all of

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his content including his own patreon

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which i would very much encourage you to

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check out

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thank you to matt street at mpstreet88

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on twitter for supporting the show

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if you need support running your

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personal or business schedule head to

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virtualtimehustle.com or on instagram to

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make that difference between should do

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and done boss it better with support

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from cat who will help you get back that

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essential time you've been searching for

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if you would like to support what we do

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and get four shout outs a month head

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over to patreon.com thinking critically

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or you can just buy me a coffee at

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kofi.com thinking critically

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Michael Kesavan

Mr

Michael AKA DeadAussieGamer is a full time professional entertainer specializing in the field of Tabletop RPGs, hosting a myriad of games both online and for kids in his hometown of Perth Western Australia.

DAG's study of Film and Television allowed him to use the skills he acquired to produce content fueled by his belief that TTRPGs are a tool that connects community and nurtures good mental health and well-being.

In addition to featuring on some amazing channels including the D&D official twitch and youtube channel (Descent into Avernus: Blood War and Ghosts of Saltmarsh: Call of the Kraken) DAG has gone on to play and produce shows with giants of the RPG performance industry including Guy from HowtobeaGreatGM, Dave and Ted from Nerdarchy, Robert Hartley GM of VLDL D&D, Ginny D, Quincy's Tavern, Satine Pheonix, Jamison Stone and many many more.