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welcome thinkers to season 4 episode 11

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of thinking critically the only

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announcement I have this week is I will

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be debuting a new twitch overlay for my

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goes approximately every other Tuesday

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around 8pm UK time but yeah we've gone

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Ed by Kyle Durkee thank you ever so much

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for joining us today Carl can you tell

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us a little bit about yourself well that

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seems like a very personal question not

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very rude of you

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tell us a lot about yourself

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absolutely I'm Kyle I am the forever DM

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over at planered allies I am the project

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manager of the Rolling together stream

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team and I'm the co-founder for the

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foundation for inclusivity in gaming

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um you can find

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all of these things and more over at our

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um if you check out our Twitter bio it

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has a leak Tree in it over at

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a-l-l-i-e-s-n-e-r-d at allies nerd you

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can find all those things and I'll

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certainly plug all of them at the end

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when we do this again

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absolutely well thank you so much for

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joining us today today's topic is

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quality so what does that mean to you in

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the DND and wider ttrpg framework well I

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think that quality always starts with

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the question of

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what rubric you're using is it the

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quality of

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the game is the quality of the

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participation is the quality of the

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material

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um of the performance like all that kind

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of stuff and I think when you're dealing

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with something as broad as the concept

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of quality the very first thing that you

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have to talk about is the quality of the

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people

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that are participating and I think that

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that is

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something that a lot of people don't

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like to dwell on

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in a lot of situations because it forces

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us to look at ourselves

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and all the little foibles that we have

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I don't know what you're talking about I

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haven't got any right exactly and nobody

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who's listening to this says any issues

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at all so

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um no I think that it's it's an

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important part of life and I think that

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it's an important part of of what

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Dungeons and Dragons is and what

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role-playing games in general are is

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it's an opportunity for you to create

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this character and go and live out

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amazing fantasies doing all kinds of

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stuff you know if you're talking d d

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it's normally saving something finding

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something beating up a monster saving

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the world but there's all kinds of other

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ttrpgs out there that are very very

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different where the goals are just you

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know are markedly dissimilar to Dungeons

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and Dragons it just happens to hold like

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a 90 market share so yeah

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um but the beautiful thing about that is

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that we all bring little bits of

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ourselves to our characters

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and one of the things that your

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characters can tell you if you look at

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what happens to them over time is

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what qualities you actually hold as a

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person there are very few of us that can

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actually go into a character that has

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literally nothing to do with us and

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never will and as no reflection of us at

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all even slightly

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um

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where the vast majority of people it is

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you're going to put little parts of

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yourself in there and those parts are

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going to grow and expand over time and

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I think that that is where quality

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starts

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the quality of

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introspection and understanding the

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quality essentially of self-empathy that

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you understand who you are that's where

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I think personally that's where a

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quality human being begins it's somebody

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is courageous enough to look at

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themselves honestly

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and is kind enough to deal with

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themselves the same way they would deal

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with a friend who was in the same

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position essentially

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we've really um like this is this is

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some deep stuff now that we've not even

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five minutes yeah I don't do small talk

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for for something like quality it's like

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oh what makes a good game oh a game

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where everyone has fun no none of that

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stuff we we go straight into the psycho

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analysis okay cool right let me uh

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it's it's quite scary isn't it when you

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think about it like that like I

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absolutely agree that most if not all

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characters will will be a mirror of the

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player in some way but you know be it a

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Fairground mirror or whatever it's still

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a mirror absolutely and there's still

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elements of that player dotted within

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that character and when you put it like

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that it is it is scary to think about

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that and yourself in such a way through

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this lens of some weird Fantastical

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Beast well so that's the thing though is

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that you don't have to think about it

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and that's one of the biggest that's one

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of the biggest Boons of this is you can

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just create the character and play the

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character and you don't even have to

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consider all of this other stuff that's

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going on and then one day something will

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happen at the table and you will

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suddenly realize something about

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yourself

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who knows what it'll be but it's that

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allowance of freedom

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in yourself and in your thought process

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that will generate those moments of

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insight that you don't need to share you

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can certainly if like if somebody one of

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my tables suddenly has a deep and

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profound new understanding of who they

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are as a human absolutely

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delightful oh there is but a lot of

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these are just very private moments that

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are happening while you happen to be

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playing a game and I think it's one of

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the things that makes the game so

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special is that just by playing it

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you can gain a better understanding not

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only of yourself but of all of the other

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people at the table and weirdly enough

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the world in general because

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you're dealing with themes at most

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tables

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that seem like they are just good versus

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evil but all of the stuff that's

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happening in our day-to-day lives will

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creep in yeah and you will suddenly be

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dealing with complex situations where

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hey yeah you were sent by this Kingdom

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to go kill an entire tribe of goblins

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you know that have been wreaking havoc

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but you get there and suddenly you

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discover that the Goblins you know have

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been here for 2 000 years and the people

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are the actual Interlopers yeah what do

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you do you know like there's I don't I

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very rarely see in anyone's campaigns

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anymore the whole you've been sent to

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slay the dragon and that is all and once

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it is done you have won you know it's

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everything is far more complex because I

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think in large part

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our world has become so much more

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complex over the last 40 years

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absolutely yeah it's almost a vehicle

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for

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it can be not in all cases but it can be

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a vehicle for discussing those more

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complex issues and I do like bringing

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elements of those in to my campaign as

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well little a little Switcheroo or a

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subversion here and there that players

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go and get there and go oh that is not

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what I was thinking was going to happen

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um a case in point there's there's one

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coming up at the end of this chapter

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which by the time this episode airs is

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probably finished and streamed and all

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that stuff so but long story short is

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there's

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they're going through a Time loop at the

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moment and it's very fun and very unique

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and if I do say something myself but it

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is it's very self-contained very low

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stakes it's it's you know it's a timely

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bright so if you die it doesn't matter

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time resets and you're back to where you

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were so it's experimentation and whatnot

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however it's set in the past as well

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they've gone back in time and the time

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Loop blah blah the whole point is when

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they have finally cracked the code of

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this Loop and have gone to the end there

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is a huge moral quandary this

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civilization that their kind of

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Interlopers in has destroyed themselves

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in their their present through through a

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civil war yeah and they'll get the

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choice to be like oh we can we could

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stop that happening or not which in of

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itself is quite an interesting choice do

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we want to change the course of history

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like well the impact of that would be to

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add a fly in the ointment

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That civilization we're doing some very

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morally questionable things yeah so it's

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like what's the what's the price to pay

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do we save potentially countless lives

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from Annihilation even if their lives

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were maybe explicitly maybe implicitly

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bad people like that's that's what I'm

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trying to push I think that is

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that's one of the biggest issues that we

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faced when it comes to just human beings

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in general there are going to be a

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million different answers to that

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question and there's going to be a

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million different types of calculus that

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go into deciding that like I literally

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know people that would question this

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down to like okay on average how many of

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those evil people are going to actually

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harm another person you know things like

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give me the latest who voted against

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like give me a percentage and it is just

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it just you know going down rabbit holes

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like that but

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personally I think that that's quality

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content because it forces

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characters to actually role players you

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know to have that discussion and like I

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know at my tables I'd like to throw out

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a lot of different role-playing

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opportunities and

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all of my stuff is subversive like it's

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never like

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the bad guy that you've been pointed at

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is never as simple as being the bad guy

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yep you know and every choice that you

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make affects the world in general

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because it's true you know every choice

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that we make it might not affect the

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entire world but it certainly affects

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our lives

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and I think that

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bring it back to Quality when it comes

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to let's say quality streaming of DnD

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content of ctrpg content it's my

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personal belief that while there are a

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few people out there that are just super

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into the crunchy crunchy rolls of it all

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where it's just well did they have this

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feat because if they didn't have this

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Faith then they wouldn't be able to do

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that thing they just did and they need

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to roll a 17 on this check and they

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didn't and then that role got fudged and

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that's unacceptable you know there's a

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that the vast majority of people when

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they're watching are there for the role

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play yeah and that that is a if you are

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there

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I understand that d d started as a

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battle simulator essentially

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um it was you pick the right race you

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pick the right class you pick the right

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Feats and now you can defeat the things

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that you were sent out to defeat

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but it has evolved it has changed so

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dramatically just like the world has

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so I think that there is like when it

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comes to like quality

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tabletop content that's really what

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people are looking for that something is

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can can be considered quality

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if it does something very well

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and or it does something new and

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exciting with the genre you know that's

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for me when it comes to any art and I do

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consider this an art like I don't

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consider this a hobby I don't consider

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this a game it's the streaming like the

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game is the game right but the streaming

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aspect of it and the podcasting aspect

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of it and the the actual playing of the

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game is no longer just a game it is a

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semi-improvised collaborative

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storytelling process yeah it it is very

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much more an art than it is a science

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official yeah and that there is and

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that's one of the things when you're

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when you're looking for quality in any

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sort of art form that's what you're

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looking for you are looking for someone

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who does something unique someone that

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does something truly astonishing or

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beautiful or insightful or is

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technically incredibly proficient like

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that that for me is like it's the

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difference between for instance someone

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like Jane Fonda

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who is just an amazing actress and is

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goes in depth into her roles and is just

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astonishing to watch because she just

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loses herself in that role as opposed to

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someone like Meryl Streep who is

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incredibly technically proficient as an

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actor and does very you can see every

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movement has been thought yeah through

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every sentence has been meticulously

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crafted and it's two completely

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different ways to come at the same art

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form and both of them create

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gorgeous art from it and for me that's

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what I think quality is here in this

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space is it's what everybody should be

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striving for is the ability to

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essentially improvise an entire campaign

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with their collaborators and

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create these moments and that's one of

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the most beautiful things I think about

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the ttrpg space is it's not like you're

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watching a movie where it has to be a

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solid two and a half hours of amazing

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acting and it's gorgeous and everything

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is perfectly pulled together it's

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essentially sitting around talking about

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a thing for a while and then giving a

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moment and then coming out of that

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moment and laughing or crying or doing

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all the things that you do and then

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having fun for a little bit and then

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having other moments you know whether

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that moment is an incredible battle or a

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scene where you are unpacking all of the

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emotional craziness that comes from

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deciding the fate of an entire nation

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you know figures these are the things so

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I feel like that's that sort of

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subversion that sort of

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beautiful deception is a huge part of

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quality for ttrpgs and hopefully where

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we are headed with this whole scene yeah

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a couple of points there that I wanted

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to pick up on first is

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I kind of don't want to do or have a

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popular actual play stream because I

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don't think I could bear those

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individuals you mentioned who are like

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pulling apart every misstep that I make

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because I shudder to think how many

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missteps there are so uh okay so first

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first let me jump on that there is so

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let's talk about the quality of your

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audience oh yeah

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I mean well my audience are this a top

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quality that much I can I can tell you

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absolutely they are I've never seen a

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better audience

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um there's it's one of those things

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where a quality audience is not

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something that you gain it's something

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that you create making sure that when

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you are streaming that there's somebody

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modding even if they're also playing or

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doing something else somebody's just got

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like their eye on chat and they know

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what's going on and they can respond if

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somebody gets gross you know so they can

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you know cheer people on if they do

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something delightful all of that kind of

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stuff but also you know being very

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liberal with the block button you know

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that's that's huge I I think as you grow

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this is certainly a lesson that I've had

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to learn as you grow you start

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interacting with a lot more people and

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I've seen people who have accounts that

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are sort of my size and are just

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constantly talking about all of the

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awful people that keep contacting them

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and all this kind of stuff and I'm like

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I don't

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I don't get it because my like the

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people that I'm interacting with like

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I'll run into a troll every now and

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again yeah but even like with all the

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insanity that happened recently with the

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Supreme Court Twitter was up in arms

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about everything right and it was just

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Total Insanity and I kept seeing all

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over the place everybody like oop I just

420
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lost like 100 followers I just lost 300

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followers I guess the trash has taken

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itself out and for me I I only gained

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followers and I feel like a part of that

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is I've been very diligent about

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managing my audience and my community

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and making sure that I don't have a

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bunch of trolls in there that I don't

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have a bunch of people that you know are

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gonna shout something into the void and

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then cause a lot of drama because I am I

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I do not like it

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um

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even if you look at like the major

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threads that we've put out

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even when there is controversy on the

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thread it always ends in a reasonable

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discussion because that is the community

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that I've created so you can create a

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quality audience now there will come a

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point where you can no longer maintain

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control over that but for the vast

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majority of us we we will never I mean

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obviously sometime tomorrow I'm assuming

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about three I will I will go to like 10

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million followers I think so I think I

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think about half past three I think wow

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you were so mean

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I'm gonna cry myself to sleep tonight

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yeah but like for the vast majority of

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us we'll be able to maintain that kind

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of audience we will be able to maintain

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the people that we want without having

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to deal with a huge number of trolls it

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just takes some energy like that quality

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I sort of look at it like polishing a

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gem Stone it's going to take a long time

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for most of us but if you can afford to

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get the gemstone cut into something

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perfect great and what that is that's

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like if you can afford to hire like a

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social media manager who will just

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create the audience that you want based

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on analytics yes

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great

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for you but for most of us it's going to

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be polishing and sanding and polishing

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and sanding and polishing sanding over

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many many many many many hours so and of

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course you and I started talking for

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that listeners benefit in one of those

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very very many discussions you just

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mentioned on Twitter that yeah

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eventually I like to think I hope turned

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into a rather civil discussion and then

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this brought us to this talk today

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however many weeks later so you know

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there are that is the beauty of having a

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high quality audience I suppose when you

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have me in it I think is what I'm saying

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so no that's the thing I mean I so I

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knew that it would become high quality

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when I met you

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it's what's going on I was a very

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roundabout way to get there but yeah

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that whole thread was very interesting

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because that was one of those where

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um and this is something that I

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I don't yet understand about Twitter is

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the ability I'm sort of starting to get

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a handle on it the ability to read a

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sentence and then sort of discard words

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yeah yeah well there's um there's that

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Meme photo of someone like Twitter's so

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crazy you can say you like strawberries

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and everyone says what the [ __ ] why do

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you hate apples and it's like I never

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said I hate apples

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yeah it's uh so it was it's one of those

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things where that specific thread was

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all about literally and it said in the

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initial post

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hey I'm sending this out to the Twitter

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hive mind what do you think about this

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and you know let's have a talk about

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this thing right and

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the replies but the vast majority of

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them don't get me wrong because I do

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have a great I do have a great Community

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out there there's the vast majority of

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them were like huh you know I think it

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would be good for certain reasons and

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then you might want to think about this

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and then this is something that you

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should think about too and then this and

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that was great because it gave me all of

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these things that I hadn't yet

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considered which is why I sent it out to

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the Twitter hive mind just you know hey

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I know that as a human person I have you

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know one brain and there's a lot of

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other brains out there who can also be

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processing this information so help me

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do that and you know so the vast

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majority of it was great and then there

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were some that were jealous you know one

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of the things that I see on Twitter a

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lot is

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there will be discussions where people

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are like yeah everything's great it's

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good it's fine we love it and the vast

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majority of your interactions are

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delightful and then there'll just be a

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thing where you realize after the fact

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you probably had a bad experience with

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this thing and this is somehow a trigger

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for you and

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I'm sorry that that happened but and

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this is a big thing that I've had to say

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to many people in my life I'm not your

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psychologist I'm not your babysitter and

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I'm not your parent so this is not an

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appropriate conversation for us to have

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like if this is I am absolutely here to

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be a comfort and to be a friend but I'm

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not going to be able to solve this

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problem for you yeah that's that's a you

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and probably a you and a psychologist

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conversation I'm sorry you've had to

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have that conversation so many times I

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think I'm fortunate enough that I've

551
00:23:47,100 --> 00:23:51,659
managed to dodge it for as long as I

552
00:23:49,500 --> 00:23:52,980
have I'm the I mean you you saw at the

553
00:23:51,659 --> 00:23:55,280
very beginning of this episode like I

554
00:23:52,980 --> 00:24:00,840
don't do small talks yes

555
00:23:55,280 --> 00:24:04,260
you you get to the meat of things very

556
00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:05,220
quickly and and because of that and

557
00:24:04,260 --> 00:24:06,419
because I'm willing to have

558
00:24:05,220 --> 00:24:08,720
conversations with people about

559
00:24:06,419 --> 00:24:12,360
difficult topics

560
00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:14,220
generally like that will turn into a

561
00:24:12,360 --> 00:24:16,440
conversation about something bad that

562
00:24:14,220 --> 00:24:19,200
has happened and because I'm an

563
00:24:16,440 --> 00:24:20,880
empathetic human being I will have that

564
00:24:19,200 --> 00:24:23,760
conversation too but there will come a

565
00:24:20,880 --> 00:24:25,080
point where I'll have to be like so I

566
00:24:23,760 --> 00:24:27,000
feel like I've done everything that I

567
00:24:25,080 --> 00:24:30,120
can here

568
00:24:27,000 --> 00:24:33,000
um let's let's shift it and when I say

569
00:24:30,120 --> 00:24:36,120
like it happens regularly like if you

570
00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:38,400
and I were to go sit down at any random

571
00:24:36,120 --> 00:24:41,880
bar somewhere

572
00:24:38,400 --> 00:24:45,179
and you sort of like took five steps

573
00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:46,679
back from me within three minutes I

574
00:24:45,179 --> 00:24:49,260
would be having a conversation about

575
00:24:46,679 --> 00:24:50,820
like the deepest trauma that whoever sat

576
00:24:49,260 --> 00:24:54,240
down next to me has ever happened

577
00:24:50,820 --> 00:24:58,640
because that's because that's just

578
00:24:54,240 --> 00:24:58,640
that is just apparently the energy I get

579
00:24:59,880 --> 00:25:03,299
talking to those uh those Twitter

580
00:25:01,740 --> 00:25:04,740
responses it made me think it's a bit

581
00:25:03,299 --> 00:25:06,299
like now I think about it when you when

582
00:25:04,740 --> 00:25:08,220
you do those open questions it does

583
00:25:06,299 --> 00:25:11,039
remind me a little bit of the notorious

584
00:25:08,220 --> 00:25:12,960
stack Overflow which which is like a

585
00:25:11,039 --> 00:25:14,820
originally a source for programmers to

586
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:16,260
ask questions since the name but now

587
00:25:14,820 --> 00:25:18,240
there's like it's like Reddit there's

588
00:25:16,260 --> 00:25:20,039
there's a an overflow for everything but

589
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:24,120
um that's notorious for being like I

590
00:25:20,039 --> 00:25:27,059
want to do X how can I do X and the

591
00:25:24,120 --> 00:25:29,460
first 10 answers are like don't do X do

592
00:25:27,059 --> 00:25:31,020
y and that reminded me a little bit of

593
00:25:29,460 --> 00:25:34,980
your thought of like I want to do this

594
00:25:31,020 --> 00:25:36,539
and then some being like why or don't

595
00:25:34,980 --> 00:25:38,279
and it's like well that's not it doesn't

596
00:25:36,539 --> 00:25:39,659
matter really the fact the fact that I'm

597
00:25:38,279 --> 00:25:41,760
asking implies that it's a thing that's

598
00:25:39,659 --> 00:25:44,159
going to happen you know or at least you

599
00:25:41,760 --> 00:25:45,419
know that's not what I've asked I

600
00:25:44,159 --> 00:25:46,440
haven't asked should I I've asked it

601
00:25:45,419 --> 00:25:48,840
however

602
00:25:46,440 --> 00:25:52,140
the whole the whole point is to figure

603
00:25:48,840 --> 00:25:54,419
out what's the best way because I am

604
00:25:52,140 --> 00:25:57,120
under No Illusion that I know the best

605
00:25:54,419 --> 00:26:00,059
way to do anything I know that I'm very

606
00:25:57,120 --> 00:26:01,679
good at certain things great that does

607
00:26:00,059 --> 00:26:03,299
not mean that I know best how to do

608
00:26:01,679 --> 00:26:05,460
everything because there's constantly

609
00:26:03,299 --> 00:26:09,059
new and fabulous ideas out there

610
00:26:05,460 --> 00:26:10,020
so yeah when it comes to your audience I

611
00:26:09,059 --> 00:26:11,520
think

612
00:26:10,020 --> 00:26:13,679
I think this is something that

613
00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,740
definitely gets lost on Twitter is there

614
00:26:13,679 --> 00:26:19,620
has to be also a place for forgiveness

615
00:26:15,740 --> 00:26:22,080
if somebody is having a bad day on your

616
00:26:19,620 --> 00:26:24,960
Twitter feed and most of the other days

617
00:26:22,080 --> 00:26:27,360
are good totally fine I get it we are

618
00:26:24,960 --> 00:26:29,279
all entitled to a bad day or two if it

619
00:26:27,360 --> 00:26:31,200
continues for a long time that's a

620
00:26:29,279 --> 00:26:32,700
different issue but most of the time at

621
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:36,179
least what I've seen is it doesn't

622
00:26:32,700 --> 00:26:38,640
there'll be something about this tweet

623
00:26:36,179 --> 00:26:40,559
that it rages this person for some

624
00:26:38,640 --> 00:26:42,539
reason that is probably deeply personal

625
00:26:40,559 --> 00:26:46,860
yeah you know

626
00:26:42,539 --> 00:26:48,659
and it's like okay we now know that cool

627
00:26:46,860 --> 00:26:52,140
and I've actually had a couple of

628
00:26:48,659 --> 00:26:54,000
situations on my feet where I see how

629
00:26:52,140 --> 00:26:55,559
somebody responds to something and then

630
00:26:54,000 --> 00:26:58,620
I'll put out something similar and see

631
00:26:55,559 --> 00:27:02,520
them come in and I will just be like

632
00:26:58,620 --> 00:27:06,059
so no not today like so we're not gonna

633
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:08,580
do this today you know but please enjoy

634
00:27:06,059 --> 00:27:11,940
all of the other thousands of tweets

635
00:27:08,580 --> 00:27:16,620
that you can participate in right here

636
00:27:11,940 --> 00:27:20,400
on this very on this very wall there is

637
00:27:16,620 --> 00:27:22,940
so yeah but that's that's I think part

638
00:27:20,400 --> 00:27:25,740
of the having a quality audience is

639
00:27:22,940 --> 00:27:29,039
actually responding to people and having

640
00:27:25,740 --> 00:27:31,260
real conversations with people and you

641
00:27:29,039 --> 00:27:32,279
know for instance for me there were a

642
00:27:31,260 --> 00:27:34,440
couple there have been a couple of

643
00:27:32,279 --> 00:27:36,419
moments where I have

644
00:27:34,440 --> 00:27:37,919
asked people hey this is a really

645
00:27:36,419 --> 00:27:41,039
interesting conversation let's have it

646
00:27:37,919 --> 00:27:43,440
off of this wall yes you know and

647
00:27:41,039 --> 00:27:48,480
essentially when I'm saying that it is

648
00:27:43,440 --> 00:27:49,740
it's not oh I gotta hide something it is

649
00:27:48,480 --> 00:27:51,900
hey

650
00:27:49,740 --> 00:27:55,020
this is not what I want in my community

651
00:27:51,900 --> 00:27:57,179
I don't want this level of vitriol in my

652
00:27:55,020 --> 00:28:01,260
community you seem to be getting upset

653
00:27:57,179 --> 00:28:03,539
and honestly it is not my job to work

654
00:28:01,260 --> 00:28:06,779
you through or walk you through whatever

655
00:28:03,539 --> 00:28:08,940
is upsetting you nor do I want it to be

656
00:28:06,779 --> 00:28:11,400
um so I've got I've got plenty of things

657
00:28:08,940 --> 00:28:14,640
to deal with in my own brain and do not

658
00:28:11,400 --> 00:28:19,080
need yours as well but I'm happy to have

659
00:28:14,640 --> 00:28:21,960
a conversation in a space that is more

660
00:28:19,080 --> 00:28:25,919
conducive to rational conversation yeah

661
00:28:21,960 --> 00:28:28,559
and for me I learned a long time ago

662
00:28:25,919 --> 00:28:32,400
that psychologically speaking

663
00:28:28,559 --> 00:28:35,159
only eight percent of communication is

664
00:28:32,400 --> 00:28:37,260
the actual words we say yeah and this I

665
00:28:35,159 --> 00:28:39,179
guess ties into quality of communication

666
00:28:37,260 --> 00:28:41,159
which is incredibly important in the

667
00:28:39,179 --> 00:28:42,720
teacherpg space how do you communicate

668
00:28:41,159 --> 00:28:45,299
with your players with your audience

669
00:28:42,720 --> 00:28:47,220
with your sponsors all that kind of

670
00:28:45,299 --> 00:28:49,380
stuff but what we all have to remember

671
00:28:47,220 --> 00:28:53,039
is that only eight percent

672
00:28:49,380 --> 00:28:55,740
is the words yes that you say if this

673
00:28:53,039 --> 00:28:59,460
were just written down in transcript

674
00:28:55,740 --> 00:29:02,539
form it would not give you at all the

675
00:28:59,460 --> 00:29:06,000
same impression of what's going on

676
00:29:02,539 --> 00:29:09,059
as actually hearing this yeah

677
00:29:06,000 --> 00:29:11,760
because 92 percent of all communication

678
00:29:09,059 --> 00:29:15,600
is vocal tone it's micro Expressions

679
00:29:11,760 --> 00:29:18,179
it's physical body language physicality

680
00:29:15,600 --> 00:29:20,039
and you're you know all the other things

681
00:29:18,179 --> 00:29:22,860
that go with the non-verbal components

682
00:29:20,039 --> 00:29:26,279
of communication yeah I've I've seen

683
00:29:22,860 --> 00:29:27,600
people who I know or have had who have

684
00:29:26,279 --> 00:29:29,220
wrote dice where they'll play games that

685
00:29:27,600 --> 00:29:30,539
they've had in the show before we'll do

686
00:29:29,220 --> 00:29:32,880
a tweet

687
00:29:30,539 --> 00:29:34,760
and I'm like oh man people are gonna

688
00:29:32,880 --> 00:29:38,399
interpret that in the wrong way

689
00:29:34,760 --> 00:29:40,620
right that's not gonna go that well but

690
00:29:38,399 --> 00:29:43,940
only because I know what they're trying

691
00:29:40,620 --> 00:29:47,279
to get at from from some past context

692
00:29:43,940 --> 00:29:49,740
that it's easy for me to understand

693
00:29:47,279 --> 00:29:51,240
whereas I'm just on face value I'm like

694
00:29:49,740 --> 00:29:54,419
oh yeah that's that people are gonna

695
00:29:51,240 --> 00:29:58,140
vastly interpret that the wrong way and

696
00:29:54,419 --> 00:29:59,460
the thing you have to remember is as so

697
00:29:58,140 --> 00:30:02,059
this is something from a writing

698
00:29:59,460 --> 00:30:04,230
perspective and technically Twitter is

699
00:30:02,059 --> 00:30:07,380
of writing

700
00:30:04,230 --> 00:30:09,360
[Laughter]

701
00:30:07,380 --> 00:30:13,320
um is just the idea like when you're

702
00:30:09,360 --> 00:30:14,399
writing a like a plot for ttrpg or when

703
00:30:13,320 --> 00:30:15,659
you're writing a play or when you're

704
00:30:14,399 --> 00:30:18,000
writing a novel or something like that

705
00:30:15,659 --> 00:30:22,679
the thing that writers have to remember

706
00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:25,200
is that for every page that's there

707
00:30:22,679 --> 00:30:27,960
you've got a thousand pages in your head

708
00:30:25,200 --> 00:30:30,539
to explain what's on that page to you

709
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:34,440
you have a incredibly deep understanding

710
00:30:30,539 --> 00:30:35,820
of what's going on in each sentence

711
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:37,500
but

712
00:30:35,820 --> 00:30:40,440
the people that are reading it do not

713
00:30:37,500 --> 00:30:44,159
yeah so it's important to remember that

714
00:30:40,440 --> 00:30:46,200
you have to give the context

715
00:30:44,159 --> 00:30:49,140
that you can

716
00:30:46,200 --> 00:30:51,960
even though for you it already exists in

717
00:30:49,140 --> 00:30:53,880
your head it does not exist for them and

718
00:30:51,960 --> 00:30:56,279
I found that on Twitter like especially

719
00:30:53,880 --> 00:30:59,159
like most of the time it's real easy

720
00:30:56,279 --> 00:30:59,820
like if you add one or two words

721
00:30:59,159 --> 00:31:03,000
normally

722
00:30:59,820 --> 00:31:06,179
[Laughter]

723
00:31:03,000 --> 00:31:08,640
that's great or just the right emote

724
00:31:06,179 --> 00:31:11,760
will let people know

725
00:31:08,640 --> 00:31:14,809
oh just this this is fun

726
00:31:11,760 --> 00:31:14,809
[Music]

727
00:31:15,179 --> 00:31:18,179
foreign

728
00:31:21,570 --> 00:31:29,760
[Music]

729
00:31:26,840 --> 00:31:31,080
quality of communication I love that

730
00:31:29,760 --> 00:31:34,260
point that you've brought up there

731
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:38,159
because it is as you opened it with this

732
00:31:34,260 --> 00:31:39,600
is the game ttrpgs uh it's the whole

733
00:31:38,159 --> 00:31:43,260
premise is communication between human

734
00:31:39,600 --> 00:31:44,700
beings right so any shortcomings in in

735
00:31:43,260 --> 00:31:45,600
the communication side of things is

736
00:31:44,700 --> 00:31:48,059
gonna

737
00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:49,980
have required a bit more work shall we

738
00:31:48,059 --> 00:31:52,080
say yeah to make sure things are going

739
00:31:49,980 --> 00:31:53,520
smoothly so yeah I

740
00:31:52,080 --> 00:31:55,500
I'm just trying to think like how can

741
00:31:53,520 --> 00:31:57,000
from from a DMS perspective I've slipped

742
00:31:55,500 --> 00:31:59,880
back if you'll excuse me into like my

743
00:31:57,000 --> 00:32:02,399
more mechanical brain of uh rather than

744
00:31:59,880 --> 00:32:04,860
this meta physical brain I've been like

745
00:32:02,399 --> 00:32:07,919
how how is a DM can you

746
00:32:04,860 --> 00:32:09,960
communicate things with more quality

747
00:32:07,919 --> 00:32:12,539
well there's I mean there's a couple of

748
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:15,000
tricks that I've learned as a DM because

749
00:32:12,539 --> 00:32:16,620
communication at the table and quality

750
00:32:15,000 --> 00:32:20,100
communication at the table is incredibly

751
00:32:16,620 --> 00:32:21,960
important I'm coming at this from a sort

752
00:32:20,100 --> 00:32:24,240
of performance space because we're an

753
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:26,100
actual play on Twitter and so it might

754
00:32:24,240 --> 00:32:29,340
be a little different than things that

755
00:32:26,100 --> 00:32:34,140
you're dealing with at the table but for

756
00:32:29,340 --> 00:32:36,960
instance the ability of the DM to help

757
00:32:34,140 --> 00:32:39,360
his players understand how they

758
00:32:36,960 --> 00:32:42,059
communicate and how they can communicate

759
00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:43,919
better and that's really important when

760
00:32:42,059 --> 00:32:46,520
you're in a performance because like

761
00:32:43,919 --> 00:32:49,559
I've got players where they give

762
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:51,899
astonishing descriptions of what they're

763
00:32:49,559 --> 00:32:54,960
doing incredibly detailed and it's just

764
00:32:51,899 --> 00:32:56,820
delightful but I can tell that they're

765
00:32:54,960 --> 00:33:00,179
sort of like they're talking talking

766
00:32:56,820 --> 00:33:03,240
talking talking trying to find that like

767
00:33:00,179 --> 00:33:05,520
truly beautiful moment yeah that just

768
00:33:03,240 --> 00:33:07,700
this is the description that is going to

769
00:33:05,520 --> 00:33:10,380
touch me and everyone around me you know

770
00:33:07,700 --> 00:33:12,299
and you know it's like with them it's

771
00:33:10,380 --> 00:33:14,640
like hey let's figure out how to edit

772
00:33:12,299 --> 00:33:17,880
yourself yeah so that instead of 15

773
00:33:14,640 --> 00:33:20,779
sentences about casting magic Missile we

774
00:33:17,880 --> 00:33:23,519
can do that in two and you can get

775
00:33:20,779 --> 00:33:25,860
exactly the same level of impact that

776
00:33:23,519 --> 00:33:29,460
you want and the exact same level of

777
00:33:25,860 --> 00:33:31,919
description that you want that does not

778
00:33:29,460 --> 00:33:36,320
then take us completely out of the fact

779
00:33:31,919 --> 00:33:36,320
that we are battling a giant monster yes

780
00:33:37,260 --> 00:33:42,120
others where it's like they want to

781
00:33:39,360 --> 00:33:45,539
focus on what their roles are and things

782
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:48,059
like that and so for the first one I do

783
00:33:45,539 --> 00:33:50,399
a thing at my table where

784
00:33:48,059 --> 00:33:54,000
during the stream we'll do favorite

785
00:33:50,399 --> 00:33:55,620
moments so it is each stream at the end

786
00:33:54,000 --> 00:33:58,559
what was your favorite moment of this

787
00:33:55,620 --> 00:34:00,720
stream and audience participates and we

788
00:33:58,559 --> 00:34:03,659
talk about all the fun we had that day

789
00:34:00,720 --> 00:34:05,640
and then when we get off stream I ask

790
00:34:03,659 --> 00:34:09,480
them each what is one thing you can do

791
00:34:05,640 --> 00:34:11,700
better for next time wow and that way it

792
00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:14,580
is something that they recognize in

793
00:34:11,700 --> 00:34:17,399
themselves so that they do want to

794
00:34:14,580 --> 00:34:20,159
change and alter and get better at doing

795
00:34:17,399 --> 00:34:21,899
which we all have yeah we should every

796
00:34:20,159 --> 00:34:26,399
single person it does not matter if you

797
00:34:21,899 --> 00:34:29,639
are Matt Mercer or you know like any

798
00:34:26,399 --> 00:34:31,080
other famous DND personality every

799
00:34:29,639 --> 00:34:33,000
single one of us should be able to at

800
00:34:31,080 --> 00:34:34,619
the end of a session say there is at

801
00:34:33,000 --> 00:34:37,440
least one thing that I did not do

802
00:34:34,619 --> 00:34:40,260
perfectly today I gotta I gotta jump in

803
00:34:37,440 --> 00:34:42,839
here because I love to hear that because

804
00:34:40,260 --> 00:34:44,339
it's something that you've articulated I

805
00:34:42,839 --> 00:34:46,260
sometimes struggle to articulate but

806
00:34:44,339 --> 00:34:49,139
it's definitely something I subscribe to

807
00:34:46,260 --> 00:34:51,119
I always say there's a lot of discourse

808
00:34:49,139 --> 00:34:52,320
around you know everybody's games their

809
00:34:51,119 --> 00:34:54,720
own as long as people are having fun

810
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:57,420
that's fine which is true those two

811
00:34:54,720 --> 00:34:59,640
statements are true however I always say

812
00:34:57,420 --> 00:35:01,680
okay just because those are true that

813
00:34:59,640 --> 00:35:04,920
doesn't stop you be being able to have

814
00:35:01,680 --> 00:35:07,080
more fun that's my way of saying like

815
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,700
there is always something to improve

816
00:35:07,080 --> 00:35:12,300
because a lot of the time when people

817
00:35:08,700 --> 00:35:13,520
suggest improvements in the goodest of

818
00:35:12,300 --> 00:35:16,020
nature

819
00:35:13,520 --> 00:35:17,940
can be met with like well it's my game

820
00:35:16,020 --> 00:35:19,980
and this is how I'm playing it so I'm

821
00:35:17,940 --> 00:35:21,300
gonna I'm gonna ask you is there

822
00:35:19,980 --> 00:35:25,099
something that you can improve about

823
00:35:21,300 --> 00:35:25,099
that last sentence no no

824
00:35:26,599 --> 00:35:29,880
almost definitely and you would have

825
00:35:28,740 --> 00:35:31,680
thought I would have perfected it now

826
00:35:29,880 --> 00:35:34,920
after the amount of times I've said it

827
00:35:31,680 --> 00:35:36,660
or thought about it but yes there is for

828
00:35:34,920 --> 00:35:39,320
sure not that I could come up with an

829
00:35:36,660 --> 00:35:39,320
answer for you now

830
00:35:40,220 --> 00:35:44,640
the reason that I do it that way is it

831
00:35:42,780 --> 00:35:46,020
allows them to bring up something that

832
00:35:44,640 --> 00:35:49,140
they are comfortable talking about

833
00:35:46,020 --> 00:35:50,760
there's no forcing somebody to discuss

834
00:35:49,140 --> 00:35:53,400
something that they're doing that they

835
00:35:50,760 --> 00:35:55,800
don't want to and very rarely have I had

836
00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,480
to like bring up something that was not

837
00:35:55,800 --> 00:35:59,460
already brought up yes of course yeah

838
00:35:57,480 --> 00:36:01,680
but there are some sort of technical

839
00:35:59,460 --> 00:36:03,180
things that are important that we have

840
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:04,680
to sort of remind people of because they

841
00:36:03,180 --> 00:36:06,599
get excited and things like that and

842
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:09,720
they want to participate a big one is

843
00:36:06,599 --> 00:36:12,180
talking over each other and at a table

844
00:36:09,720 --> 00:36:13,339
it's fine because most of the time if

845
00:36:12,180 --> 00:36:16,619
you're in person

846
00:36:13,339 --> 00:36:19,380
your human ears can separate out

847
00:36:16,619 --> 00:36:21,180
different human voices and figure out

848
00:36:19,380 --> 00:36:23,339
what's going on and so if everyone's

849
00:36:21,180 --> 00:36:26,760
laughing and throwing out little quips

850
00:36:23,339 --> 00:36:29,940
and having a delightful time it's great

851
00:36:26,760 --> 00:36:32,700
whereas on stream it all gets converted

852
00:36:29,940 --> 00:36:35,220
into a digital medium and fed through

853
00:36:32,700 --> 00:36:38,160
one channel which means it's just a

854
00:36:35,220 --> 00:36:40,320
sound wall you cannot there's nothing

855
00:36:38,160 --> 00:36:43,020
that can be pulled out you lose the

856
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:44,760
Nuance you use the the subtle changes in

857
00:36:43,020 --> 00:36:46,320
you know pitch and tone and distance

858
00:36:44,760 --> 00:36:49,440
from the ears and all that kind of stuff

859
00:36:46,320 --> 00:36:50,579
yeah yeah and so it's so there are

860
00:36:49,440 --> 00:36:52,200
certain things that are just sort of

861
00:36:50,579 --> 00:36:54,720
technical things you need to learn to do

862
00:36:52,200 --> 00:36:57,240
on stream but can be very difficult if

863
00:36:54,720 --> 00:36:59,160
you're not like a trained actor so

864
00:36:57,240 --> 00:37:00,660
that's one way so that's if somebody for

865
00:36:59,160 --> 00:37:01,859
instance needs to edit themselves or

866
00:37:00,660 --> 00:37:04,560
something like that that's something

867
00:37:01,859 --> 00:37:06,420
that you can bring up in that space and

868
00:37:04,560 --> 00:37:08,460
you can then talk about it and say hey

869
00:37:06,420 --> 00:37:11,880
here's some suggestions that you can you

870
00:37:08,460 --> 00:37:14,880
can work on and it's great because I

871
00:37:11,880 --> 00:37:17,700
have seen my players improve so

872
00:37:14,880 --> 00:37:18,599
dramatically over the course of the last

873
00:37:17,700 --> 00:37:21,720
year

874
00:37:18,599 --> 00:37:24,480
it's amazing and then you know if there

875
00:37:21,720 --> 00:37:27,119
are if it's somebody who like is sort of

876
00:37:24,480 --> 00:37:29,280
sitting back and not really talking much

877
00:37:27,119 --> 00:37:31,619
you know stuff like that that's

878
00:37:29,280 --> 00:37:33,839
something that you can discuss as well

879
00:37:31,619 --> 00:37:36,240
that's like hey what can we do to make

880
00:37:33,839 --> 00:37:39,060
it easier for you to jump back when you

881
00:37:36,240 --> 00:37:41,160
want to and then there's other

882
00:37:39,060 --> 00:37:44,160
techniques that I use for instance with

883
00:37:41,160 --> 00:37:45,660
like if somebody's very crunchy loves

884
00:37:44,160 --> 00:37:47,099
talking about

885
00:37:45,660 --> 00:37:50,220
um and this is the thing that like

886
00:37:47,099 --> 00:37:52,619
personally I don't really like because I

887
00:37:50,220 --> 00:37:56,220
think it slows down combat so

888
00:37:52,619 --> 00:37:59,820
dramatically is the person that wants to

889
00:37:56,220 --> 00:38:02,220
tell you and essentially celebrate the

890
00:37:59,820 --> 00:38:04,740
fact that they chose this feat and this

891
00:38:02,220 --> 00:38:06,300
class because now they can do this

892
00:38:04,740 --> 00:38:07,859
attack and then because they have this

893
00:38:06,300 --> 00:38:09,240
they can do the second attack and

894
00:38:07,859 --> 00:38:10,500
because they have this extra thing they

895
00:38:09,240 --> 00:38:12,119
can do this extra damage and then

896
00:38:10,500 --> 00:38:14,220
because they have this and they have to

897
00:38:12,119 --> 00:38:16,800
literally read you the description of

898
00:38:14,220 --> 00:38:20,339
every single thing they're doing in that

899
00:38:16,800 --> 00:38:23,520
round and then way needs for you to

900
00:38:20,339 --> 00:38:25,200
essentially applaud them verbally for

901
00:38:23,520 --> 00:38:26,339
the fact they chose this and then they

902
00:38:25,200 --> 00:38:29,300
will tell you the next thing that they

903
00:38:26,339 --> 00:38:32,640
are going to do and the turn just takes

904
00:38:29,300 --> 00:38:34,440
forever and

905
00:38:32,640 --> 00:38:36,240
for me one of the ways that I've sort of

906
00:38:34,440 --> 00:38:37,980
gotten around that is

907
00:38:36,240 --> 00:38:39,780
um on our channel the vast majority of

908
00:38:37,980 --> 00:38:40,859
combats that we do are now narrative

909
00:38:39,780 --> 00:38:44,220
combat

910
00:38:40,859 --> 00:38:47,099
where essentially the rules are

911
00:38:44,220 --> 00:38:49,740
you will not roll in this half roll

912
00:38:47,099 --> 00:38:52,619
the only things that you roll are saving

913
00:38:49,740 --> 00:38:55,800
throws and damaged eyes

914
00:38:52,619 --> 00:38:57,839
that's it wow and sometimes you don't

915
00:38:55,800 --> 00:39:00,540
even roll damage dice sometimes you just

916
00:38:57,839 --> 00:39:02,700
tell me what you do or you tell me what

917
00:39:00,540 --> 00:39:06,060
you attempt and I will tell you what the

918
00:39:02,700 --> 00:39:09,240
result was and the rule is in lieu of an

919
00:39:06,060 --> 00:39:12,240
attack roll you have to tell me an

920
00:39:09,240 --> 00:39:14,160
amazing story about what you did

921
00:39:12,240 --> 00:39:18,300
and if the story is interesting enough

922
00:39:14,160 --> 00:39:19,339
you hit and if it's not you missed and

923
00:39:18,300 --> 00:39:22,740
that's it

924
00:39:19,339 --> 00:39:25,619
and it definitely takes some getting

925
00:39:22,740 --> 00:39:27,300
used to because people that want to talk

926
00:39:25,619 --> 00:39:28,560
to you about their feasts and this

927
00:39:27,300 --> 00:39:31,320
attack and that attack and all that kind

928
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:33,740
of stuff their brain has been trained to

929
00:39:31,320 --> 00:39:36,119
give you these pieces of information

930
00:39:33,740 --> 00:39:38,820
instead of putting it together into a

931
00:39:36,119 --> 00:39:40,380
full story and the the example that I

932
00:39:38,820 --> 00:39:43,440
like to use

933
00:39:40,380 --> 00:39:46,440
is I had a character in my in one of my

934
00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:51,420
campaigns that uh an NPC

935
00:39:46,440 --> 00:39:55,020
and mechanically what they did is they

936
00:39:51,420 --> 00:39:58,859
use their movement as a monk

937
00:39:55,020 --> 00:40:02,040
to get to within five feet of all the

938
00:39:58,859 --> 00:40:04,320
players then they attacked twice and

939
00:40:02,040 --> 00:40:05,460
used a key point to

940
00:40:04,320 --> 00:40:07,440
um or they attacked and they used to

941
00:40:05,460 --> 00:40:10,020
keep points to flurry of flows so they

942
00:40:07,440 --> 00:40:13,079
could attack multiple times yeah and

943
00:40:10,020 --> 00:40:15,780
then they use another key point to jump

944
00:40:13,079 --> 00:40:17,820
out of there and use more movement to

945
00:40:15,780 --> 00:40:21,300
leave the situation

946
00:40:17,820 --> 00:40:23,240
so that is not a super interesting story

947
00:40:21,300 --> 00:40:25,859
right

948
00:40:23,240 --> 00:40:28,440
so what actually happened in the

949
00:40:25,859 --> 00:40:30,599
campaign was

950
00:40:28,440 --> 00:40:32,520
you see a hooded figure

951
00:40:30,599 --> 00:40:34,680
he stands

952
00:40:32,520 --> 00:40:37,320
a couple dozen feet from you

953
00:40:34,680 --> 00:40:39,480
you see a tail

954
00:40:37,320 --> 00:40:42,300
peeking out from the bottom of his cloak

955
00:40:39,480 --> 00:40:45,240
swishing back and forth

956
00:40:42,300 --> 00:40:46,800
he does not turn to face you he's simply

957
00:40:45,240 --> 00:40:50,160
gracefully

958
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:52,800
like orange and white liquid bends over

959
00:40:50,160 --> 00:40:55,160
backwards and begins

960
00:40:52,800 --> 00:40:58,560
to do hand Springs

961
00:40:55,160 --> 00:41:01,020
faster and faster approaching you and

962
00:40:58,560 --> 00:41:03,540
before you can move

963
00:41:01,020 --> 00:41:06,480
the final handspring launches him into

964
00:41:03,540 --> 00:41:09,599
the center of the group he spins

965
00:41:06,480 --> 00:41:11,280
and with the claws on both his hands and

966
00:41:09,599 --> 00:41:15,780
feet

967
00:41:11,280 --> 00:41:19,920
he scratches each of you one time

968
00:41:15,780 --> 00:41:22,260
Landing in a ball he Springs back into

969
00:41:19,920 --> 00:41:25,320
action climbing up the wall next to you

970
00:41:22,260 --> 00:41:27,900
and disappearing over the roof

971
00:41:25,320 --> 00:41:31,140
all before you can speak

972
00:41:27,900 --> 00:41:33,000
and that's the same story yes you know

973
00:41:31,140 --> 00:41:35,880
both of those are exactly the same story

974
00:41:33,000 --> 00:41:38,579
one of them is just far more interesting

975
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:40,680
than the other one you know

976
00:41:38,579 --> 00:41:43,200
so that's what narrative combat looks

977
00:41:40,680 --> 00:41:46,260
like in our space and that's a way to

978
00:41:43,200 --> 00:41:51,240
help me get people off of the character

979
00:41:46,260 --> 00:41:53,760
sheet and into the actual story of

980
00:41:51,240 --> 00:41:56,280
what's going on and we're actually

981
00:41:53,760 --> 00:42:00,480
developing a new technique right now

982
00:41:56,280 --> 00:42:03,240
called 10 second combat okay which is if

983
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,500
something is happening especially I

984
00:42:03,240 --> 00:42:07,140
especially like to use this for like

985
00:42:04,500 --> 00:42:09,420
martial classes because a lot of times

986
00:42:07,140 --> 00:42:11,880
it can be very difficult for people to

987
00:42:09,420 --> 00:42:15,240
give you new and exciting explanations

988
00:42:11,880 --> 00:42:16,920
of how this person punched somebody a

989
00:42:15,240 --> 00:42:19,440
couple times

990
00:42:16,920 --> 00:42:22,260
um so what I'll essentially do is I'll

991
00:42:19,440 --> 00:42:25,079
be like okay on your turn we are now

992
00:42:22,260 --> 00:42:28,500
entering 10 second combat and

993
00:42:25,079 --> 00:42:30,480
each of us will trade blows

994
00:42:28,500 --> 00:42:32,579
and it doesn't matter how many it is you

995
00:42:30,480 --> 00:42:36,900
will get to tell me in 10 seconds or

996
00:42:32,579 --> 00:42:40,320
less one movement that you make it could

997
00:42:36,900 --> 00:42:42,900
be I slide across the desk and I punch

998
00:42:40,320 --> 00:42:45,540
you in the face you know and then I

999
00:42:42,900 --> 00:42:48,180
would get to respond to that like you

1000
00:42:45,540 --> 00:42:50,940
know I grab your arm and I flip the

1001
00:42:48,180 --> 00:42:53,520
chair over Landing you both on our backs

1002
00:42:50,940 --> 00:42:55,619
and then now it's your turn what do you

1003
00:42:53,520 --> 00:42:57,060
do and now it's my turn what do I do and

1004
00:42:55,619 --> 00:42:59,040
the story gets faster and faster and

1005
00:42:57,060 --> 00:43:01,079
faster and faster until somebody has

1006
00:42:59,040 --> 00:43:03,359
nothing left and in that moment you've

1007
00:43:01,079 --> 00:43:06,240
now hesitated and somebody has gone in

1008
00:43:03,359 --> 00:43:10,500
to draw blood and that's your turn in

1009
00:43:06,240 --> 00:43:13,500
combat wow and well like if you actually

1010
00:43:10,500 --> 00:43:14,880
watch ap's for any length of time you

1011
00:43:13,500 --> 00:43:17,040
know everyone says well my combat

1012
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:19,319
doesn't take too long yes it does yeah

1013
00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,619
if you actually time it nobody's taking

1014
00:43:19,319 --> 00:43:23,940
less than like five minutes yeah on the

1015
00:43:22,619 --> 00:43:26,160
return

1016
00:43:23,940 --> 00:43:28,200
um it's always there's always questions

1017
00:43:26,160 --> 00:43:29,940
before and questions after well where's

1018
00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:32,040
where are we positioned what does this

1019
00:43:29,940 --> 00:43:33,540
look like can I reach this oh no that

1020
00:43:32,040 --> 00:43:35,460
changes things well now I need to do

1021
00:43:33,540 --> 00:43:38,520
this and yeah and it's like oh let me

1022
00:43:35,460 --> 00:43:40,560
look at my character sheet and here's

1023
00:43:38,520 --> 00:43:42,359
there's the whole

1024
00:43:40,560 --> 00:43:43,400
um

1025
00:43:42,359 --> 00:43:47,099
um

1026
00:43:43,400 --> 00:43:49,140
like we are not chanting right now we

1027
00:43:47,099 --> 00:43:52,440
are not we are not in the Buddhist

1028
00:43:49,140 --> 00:43:56,220
temple like this is we're on an actual

1029
00:43:52,440 --> 00:43:59,040
play Let's get things moving please

1030
00:43:56,220 --> 00:44:01,500
so in the time I can do a 10 second

1031
00:43:59,040 --> 00:44:04,220
combat I can do three 10 second combats

1032
00:44:01,500 --> 00:44:07,619
generally in the time it takes a normal

1033
00:44:04,220 --> 00:44:10,200
actual play to do one turn yeah one

1034
00:44:07,619 --> 00:44:12,000
single turn yeah yeah but you don't have

1035
00:44:10,200 --> 00:44:15,060
to use it all the time and there are

1036
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:18,599
definitely days when I am

1037
00:44:15,060 --> 00:44:20,760
I am not feeling great and I just don't

1038
00:44:18,599 --> 00:44:23,460
have the brain power to make that happen

1039
00:44:20,760 --> 00:44:25,140
and then absolutely We're Gonna Roll a

1040
00:44:23,460 --> 00:44:27,420
bunch of dice and our turns are gonna

1041
00:44:25,140 --> 00:44:30,119
take a while yeah and it's totally fine

1042
00:44:27,420 --> 00:44:32,160
you know it's still both of them are

1043
00:44:30,119 --> 00:44:35,579
super fun they're just very different

1044
00:44:32,160 --> 00:44:38,040
things one is built to be exciting for

1045
00:44:35,579 --> 00:44:40,260
an audience and one of them is built to

1046
00:44:38,040 --> 00:44:42,960
be delightful for an individual you know

1047
00:44:40,260 --> 00:44:44,940
yeah yeah yeah precisely I guess that

1048
00:44:42,960 --> 00:44:49,200
would be our discussion of the quality

1049
00:44:44,940 --> 00:44:51,300
of combat yeah indeed indeed yeah I mean

1050
00:44:49,200 --> 00:44:53,460
that's such a couple of episodes in of

1051
00:44:51,300 --> 00:44:56,300
itself ironically just as long as combat

1052
00:44:53,460 --> 00:44:56,300
takes um

1053
00:44:57,240 --> 00:45:01,079
I wanted to touch on that I think the

1054
00:44:59,160 --> 00:45:02,579
quality of the communication thing one

1055
00:45:01,079 --> 00:45:05,040
one final thing I had a thought earlier

1056
00:45:02,579 --> 00:45:08,640
on was about an often

1057
00:45:05,040 --> 00:45:11,880
means response to problems in the game

1058
00:45:08,640 --> 00:45:15,000
or at the table out of game is speak to

1059
00:45:11,880 --> 00:45:16,200
your players which is kind of has loads

1060
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,000
of value kind of has no value because

1061
00:45:16,200 --> 00:45:18,960
it's the answer to everything and of

1062
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:21,060
itself doesn't actually tell you

1063
00:45:18,960 --> 00:45:23,819
anything useful although it being still

1064
00:45:21,060 --> 00:45:26,579
objectively true now the thing I want to

1065
00:45:23,819 --> 00:45:28,920
talk about there is that like that that

1066
00:45:26,579 --> 00:45:31,200
is the answer so often is because people

1067
00:45:28,920 --> 00:45:33,900
are reluctant to have those

1068
00:45:31,200 --> 00:45:35,339
conversations because the quality of

1069
00:45:33,900 --> 00:45:38,339
communication required to have those

1070
00:45:35,339 --> 00:45:40,859
conversations effectively is higher than

1071
00:45:38,339 --> 00:45:43,079
you get when you're just talking [ __ ]

1072
00:45:40,859 --> 00:45:44,280
with your mates or you know at work or

1073
00:45:43,079 --> 00:45:45,420
something so that's why those

1074
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:46,500
conversations are quote unquote

1075
00:45:45,420 --> 00:45:48,720
difficult because you have to be like

1076
00:45:46,500 --> 00:45:51,180
hey person

1077
00:45:48,720 --> 00:45:52,800
that behavior was inappropriate and this

1078
00:45:51,180 --> 00:45:55,200
is an awkward discussion and how can I

1079
00:45:52,800 --> 00:45:58,140
communicate this in a way that isn't

1080
00:45:55,200 --> 00:46:01,800
awkward and is effective and comes out

1081
00:45:58,140 --> 00:46:04,500
the other side improved I think that is

1082
00:46:01,800 --> 00:46:06,480
a problem that I mean I'm going to jump

1083
00:46:04,500 --> 00:46:08,640
into a world problem

1084
00:46:06,480 --> 00:46:10,500
this is something that is happening

1085
00:46:08,640 --> 00:46:14,520
worldwide

1086
00:46:10,500 --> 00:46:18,300
at this point now there seems to be this

1087
00:46:14,520 --> 00:46:21,960
conflation of two concepts the concept

1088
00:46:18,300 --> 00:46:26,099
of a discussion

1089
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:28,500
and an argument and there's so many

1090
00:46:26,099 --> 00:46:29,700
situations nowadays that at least I've

1091
00:46:28,500 --> 00:46:31,200
run into

1092
00:46:29,700 --> 00:46:33,060
where

1093
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:36,599
you need to have a discussion with

1094
00:46:33,060 --> 00:46:39,960
someone about something and everyone

1095
00:46:36,599 --> 00:46:44,579
involved is terrified because there's

1096
00:46:39,960 --> 00:46:47,520
just the Assumption of conflict yes and

1097
00:46:44,579 --> 00:46:51,960
the thing is that there's no need

1098
00:46:47,520 --> 00:46:53,880
for conflict there is not okay there is

1099
00:46:51,960 --> 00:46:56,160
a need for conflict sometimes the vast

1100
00:46:53,880 --> 00:46:57,480
majority of times though

1101
00:46:56,160 --> 00:46:59,339
um the the things that you're discussing

1102
00:46:57,480 --> 00:47:01,800
there's like you're all trying to get to

1103
00:46:59,339 --> 00:47:03,300
the same place and

1104
00:47:01,800 --> 00:47:05,940
I think

1105
00:47:03,300 --> 00:47:08,400
there's many more reasons why this

1106
00:47:05,940 --> 00:47:11,180
exists than we can discuss in the

1107
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:14,339
limited amount of times that we have but

1108
00:47:11,180 --> 00:47:16,319
essentially what happens is everybody in

1109
00:47:14,339 --> 00:47:19,440
the situation gets anxious like their

1110
00:47:16,319 --> 00:47:21,480
anxiety spikes and suddenly nobody wants

1111
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:23,099
to have the conversation and because the

1112
00:47:21,480 --> 00:47:25,020
anxiety is spiking the defense

1113
00:47:23,099 --> 00:47:26,579
mechanisms come up and that makes it

1114
00:47:25,020 --> 00:47:28,560
more difficult to have the conversations

1115
00:47:26,579 --> 00:47:31,440
and because it's more difficult that

1116
00:47:28,560 --> 00:47:34,020
creates more anxiety which makes it more

1117
00:47:31,440 --> 00:47:38,099
difficult and you get into this Loop

1118
00:47:34,020 --> 00:47:40,260
right yeah and because that Loop exists

1119
00:47:38,099 --> 00:47:43,260
in so many conversations

1120
00:47:40,260 --> 00:47:44,760
we are training ourselves to exist in

1121
00:47:43,260 --> 00:47:47,460
that Loop

1122
00:47:44,760 --> 00:47:51,000
so every conversation

1123
00:47:47,460 --> 00:47:53,280
is suddenly anxiety written instead of

1124
00:47:51,000 --> 00:47:56,160
it just being like hey

1125
00:47:53,280 --> 00:47:58,859
and that's why I use what can you do

1126
00:47:56,160 --> 00:48:02,640
better yeah because that is something

1127
00:47:58,859 --> 00:48:05,339
where there is no confrontation at all

1128
00:48:02,640 --> 00:48:07,859
it is you can say I think I could do

1129
00:48:05,339 --> 00:48:10,680
this better and it includes the dm2 it

1130
00:48:07,859 --> 00:48:14,099
includes me oh absolutely yeah what can

1131
00:48:10,680 --> 00:48:16,980
I do better for next time and I've

1132
00:48:14,099 --> 00:48:20,220
gotten amazing suggestions from people

1133
00:48:16,980 --> 00:48:22,760
at my table I have gotten some not great

1134
00:48:20,220 --> 00:48:25,260
suggestions as well but

1135
00:48:22,760 --> 00:48:26,880
that's the cost of asking these

1136
00:48:25,260 --> 00:48:30,720
questions I'm afraid is there's an

1137
00:48:26,880 --> 00:48:32,400
overhead of uh yeah yeah but I think

1138
00:48:30,720 --> 00:48:34,940
that that is

1139
00:48:32,400 --> 00:48:38,700
it's just important to check in

1140
00:48:34,940 --> 00:48:42,240
regularly and in a way and what happens

1141
00:48:38,700 --> 00:48:44,040
there is for me one of the questions

1142
00:48:42,240 --> 00:48:48,780
that I'll ask players when we're having

1143
00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:52,200
more difficult discussions is okay is

1144
00:48:48,780 --> 00:48:55,740
there any reason to believe have i at

1145
00:48:52,200 --> 00:48:59,760
any point behaved in a way that makes

1146
00:48:55,740 --> 00:49:03,500
you believe I'm going to actively try to

1147
00:48:59,760 --> 00:49:06,420
kill your character that I'm going to

1148
00:49:03,500 --> 00:49:07,980
actively try to destroy your experience

1149
00:49:06,420 --> 00:49:12,420
at the table

1150
00:49:07,980 --> 00:49:15,000
and once you phrase it like that one of

1151
00:49:12,420 --> 00:49:17,579
the things that happens is they're

1152
00:49:15,000 --> 00:49:19,940
required at that point then to take

1153
00:49:17,579 --> 00:49:23,520
themselves outside of their own brain

1154
00:49:19,940 --> 00:49:26,040
and really look at concrete things which

1155
00:49:23,520 --> 00:49:28,260
always helps alleviate anxiety and

1156
00:49:26,040 --> 00:49:31,859
things like that because anxiety is

1157
00:49:28,260 --> 00:49:34,079
typically based on something some Loop

1158
00:49:31,859 --> 00:49:36,839
that's happening inside your own psyche

1159
00:49:34,079 --> 00:49:39,119
that there is some sort of thing that

1160
00:49:36,839 --> 00:49:42,079
your brain has latched on to that is

1161
00:49:39,119 --> 00:49:45,000
grinding your gears to a halt

1162
00:49:42,079 --> 00:49:46,920
and when that happens when as soon as

1163
00:49:45,000 --> 00:49:48,839
you take a step outside of your own head

1164
00:49:46,920 --> 00:49:50,700
and start looking at things from

1165
00:49:48,839 --> 00:49:53,400
somebody else's experience or from

1166
00:49:50,700 --> 00:49:56,520
somebody else's point of view Suddenly

1167
00:49:53,400 --> 00:49:58,980
It's Not Your World Is Not consumed by

1168
00:49:56,520 --> 00:50:01,560
this anymore the world has brought it

1169
00:49:58,980 --> 00:50:03,540
from one square foot of real estate

1170
00:50:01,560 --> 00:50:06,960
which is your skull

1171
00:50:03,540 --> 00:50:09,839
to many hundreds of square feet which is

1172
00:50:06,960 --> 00:50:13,380
the room that you now exist in yeah and

1173
00:50:09,839 --> 00:50:17,220
that anxiety can dissipate simply by

1174
00:50:13,380 --> 00:50:21,960
truly participating with other people in

1175
00:50:17,220 --> 00:50:25,380
those conversations and I found that as

1176
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:28,440
soon as someone is required to step out

1177
00:50:25,380 --> 00:50:30,300
of themselves for just a moment it gives

1178
00:50:28,440 --> 00:50:32,280
them enough perspective to then have

1179
00:50:30,300 --> 00:50:35,280
that conversation doesn't work every

1180
00:50:32,280 --> 00:50:37,560
single time but like 90 of the time it

1181
00:50:35,280 --> 00:50:40,079
works and

1182
00:50:37,560 --> 00:50:42,180
I've also found that when

1183
00:50:40,079 --> 00:50:45,420
when the only conversation that can be

1184
00:50:42,180 --> 00:50:47,339
had is about the fact that people don't

1185
00:50:45,420 --> 00:50:48,720
want to have the conversation the

1186
00:50:47,339 --> 00:50:50,280
conversation is never actually going to

1187
00:50:48,720 --> 00:50:52,020
happen because all you're ever going to

1188
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:54,000
talk about is how much you are not

1189
00:50:52,020 --> 00:50:58,859
looking forward to this conversation yes

1190
00:50:54,000 --> 00:51:02,700
and so if you can just stop that cycle

1191
00:50:58,859 --> 00:51:04,980
in a similar way which is just okay

1192
00:51:02,700 --> 00:51:06,480
hey is there a reason for you to believe

1193
00:51:04,980 --> 00:51:10,800
that this conversation is going to be

1194
00:51:06,480 --> 00:51:12,780
gross or upsetting or terrifying like is

1195
00:51:10,800 --> 00:51:14,460
there any reason to believe based on

1196
00:51:12,780 --> 00:51:15,359
this person your history with this

1197
00:51:14,460 --> 00:51:17,579
person

1198
00:51:15,359 --> 00:51:20,460
that Something's Gonna Go terribly wrong

1199
00:51:17,579 --> 00:51:22,920
today when in fact nothing has gone

1200
00:51:20,460 --> 00:51:26,040
wrong yet in any of your conversations

1201
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:28,339
and helping them put that historical

1202
00:51:26,040 --> 00:51:31,559
perspective on it too with helps again

1203
00:51:28,339 --> 00:51:33,599
broaden the world so that you're not

1204
00:51:31,559 --> 00:51:35,940
just looking at this one thing that's

1205
00:51:33,599 --> 00:51:38,940
making you anxious you're looking at a

1206
00:51:35,940 --> 00:51:42,300
hundred things 99 of which did not make

1207
00:51:38,940 --> 00:51:44,700
you anxious so there's there are all

1208
00:51:42,300 --> 00:51:47,520
kinds of techniques that can be used to

1209
00:51:44,700 --> 00:51:50,880
try to help smooth through conversations

1210
00:51:47,520 --> 00:51:54,359
but you're absolutely going to hit these

1211
00:51:50,880 --> 00:51:58,859
moments where somebody is just

1212
00:51:54,359 --> 00:52:00,839
there's something happening and this is

1213
00:51:58,859 --> 00:52:02,520
where things get really treacherous is

1214
00:52:00,839 --> 00:52:05,700
you do not want to try to be a

1215
00:52:02,520 --> 00:52:07,200
psychologist or a psychiatrist friends

1216
00:52:05,700 --> 00:52:09,720
or to your players

1217
00:52:07,200 --> 00:52:11,819
you can be supportive and you can be

1218
00:52:09,720 --> 00:52:12,839
just the most delightful human being you

1219
00:52:11,819 --> 00:52:14,220
can

1220
00:52:12,839 --> 00:52:17,339
but

1221
00:52:14,220 --> 00:52:18,960
even if you are trained

1222
00:52:17,339 --> 00:52:21,599
to do this

1223
00:52:18,960 --> 00:52:23,819
it's totally inappropriate for you to do

1224
00:52:21,599 --> 00:52:26,460
it in front of anybody else

1225
00:52:23,819 --> 00:52:29,460
you know there's no there's no situation

1226
00:52:26,460 --> 00:52:31,559
in which you should be attempting to be

1227
00:52:29,460 --> 00:52:35,099
the psychiatrist or psychologist to your

1228
00:52:31,559 --> 00:52:36,480
friends or to your players and when it

1229
00:52:35,099 --> 00:52:40,020
gets to that point where literally

1230
00:52:36,480 --> 00:52:41,760
communication cannot happen it's

1231
00:52:40,020 --> 00:52:45,240
important to shut down the conversation

1232
00:52:41,760 --> 00:52:48,540
as gently and empathetically as we can

1233
00:52:45,240 --> 00:52:51,059
but if this person is unwilling to allow

1234
00:52:48,540 --> 00:52:52,260
that then at that point that's a

1235
00:52:51,059 --> 00:52:56,040
different discussion that's a different

1236
00:52:52,260 --> 00:52:58,920
like what is the quality of this

1237
00:52:56,040 --> 00:53:00,900
person's relationship with you and

1238
00:52:58,920 --> 00:53:03,300
that's honestly probably the most

1239
00:53:00,900 --> 00:53:05,160
difficult discussion that any of us will

1240
00:53:03,300 --> 00:53:06,960
ever have about anything

1241
00:53:05,160 --> 00:53:09,420
is what is the quality of the

1242
00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:10,800
relationship with your friends what is

1243
00:53:09,420 --> 00:53:13,260
the quality of your relationship with

1244
00:53:10,800 --> 00:53:16,020
your family what is the quality of your

1245
00:53:13,260 --> 00:53:20,819
relationship with yourself

1246
00:53:16,020 --> 00:53:24,420
and these are they're not questions that

1247
00:53:20,819 --> 00:53:28,079
we can answer easily or simply or

1248
00:53:24,420 --> 00:53:29,220
quickly and we can't answer them with a

1249
00:53:28,079 --> 00:53:30,599
game

1250
00:53:29,220 --> 00:53:32,339
but

1251
00:53:30,599 --> 00:53:36,420
one of the beautiful things about this

1252
00:53:32,339 --> 00:53:38,099
is that we can explore them well usually

1253
00:53:36,420 --> 00:53:39,059
at this point I would say is there

1254
00:53:38,099 --> 00:53:40,680
anything we missed that we haven't

1255
00:53:39,059 --> 00:53:43,440
talked about yet but that was such a

1256
00:53:40,680 --> 00:53:44,940
good bookend and to a throwback to the

1257
00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:46,500
your opening statement I don't want to

1258
00:53:44,940 --> 00:53:49,920
ask that question because it would ruin

1259
00:53:46,500 --> 00:53:52,920
the uh the perfect circle you've crafted

1260
00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:54,059
right well this is so if you like things

1261
00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:56,579
like that

1262
00:53:54,059 --> 00:53:59,180
so I made my table because that is how

1263
00:53:56,579 --> 00:54:02,280
my storytelling goes

1264
00:53:59,180 --> 00:54:05,579
this is it's one of those things where

1265
00:54:02,280 --> 00:54:08,040
as a Storyteller there comes a point

1266
00:54:05,579 --> 00:54:09,300
where you understand like I didn't know

1267
00:54:08,040 --> 00:54:12,240
that's where we were going to end when

1268
00:54:09,300 --> 00:54:13,559
we started the interview but when that

1269
00:54:12,240 --> 00:54:17,160
became

1270
00:54:13,559 --> 00:54:18,900
the conversation at the end of it I

1271
00:54:17,160 --> 00:54:21,240
could feel

1272
00:54:18,900 --> 00:54:23,280
okay this

1273
00:54:21,240 --> 00:54:25,500
this is where this conversation should

1274
00:54:23,280 --> 00:54:27,240
happen this is it and it's the same

1275
00:54:25,500 --> 00:54:30,720
thing with like an adventure that

1276
00:54:27,240 --> 00:54:34,079
there's oh here we are this is where we

1277
00:54:30,720 --> 00:54:35,640
are in this space I understand so even

1278
00:54:34,079 --> 00:54:37,920
if you don't know

1279
00:54:35,640 --> 00:54:40,740
that's when you when you start so that's

1280
00:54:37,920 --> 00:54:44,460
where you're going to end a really good

1281
00:54:40,740 --> 00:54:46,319
DM a good Storyteller will feel that

1282
00:54:44,460 --> 00:54:49,200
when it's happening

1283
00:54:46,319 --> 00:54:51,540
so yeah I'm glad I'm glad we can do that

1284
00:54:49,200 --> 00:54:54,180
put a fabulous little button yeah right

1285
00:54:51,540 --> 00:54:55,800
there this is this is why I love doing

1286
00:54:54,180 --> 00:54:58,800
the podcast I've said it before and I'll

1287
00:54:55,800 --> 00:55:00,660
say it again is that so many times now

1288
00:54:58,800 --> 00:55:03,960
and this is one of the classic moments

1289
00:55:00,660 --> 00:55:06,960
of the the topic will be something that

1290
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:07,980
ostensibly means one thing and then we

1291
00:55:06,960 --> 00:55:10,559
talk about

1292
00:55:07,980 --> 00:55:13,559
other still related things but to take

1293
00:55:10,559 --> 00:55:15,300
it in a completely new and unique and

1294
00:55:13,559 --> 00:55:19,079
interesting Direction which is what's

1295
00:55:15,300 --> 00:55:21,480
happened today so I'm super stoked that

1296
00:55:19,079 --> 00:55:23,339
we didn't talk about Bloody combat again

1297
00:55:21,480 --> 00:55:25,920
for 40 minutes or something which it

1298
00:55:23,339 --> 00:55:28,319
could have very easily happened but I

1299
00:55:25,920 --> 00:55:30,359
mean we spent a good like 10 minutes on

1300
00:55:28,319 --> 00:55:33,420
it

1301
00:55:30,359 --> 00:55:35,400
uh no it's nice to have you know under

1302
00:55:33,420 --> 00:55:37,559
the guise of quality to have these kinds

1303
00:55:35,400 --> 00:55:39,059
of discussions so now I'm I mean I don't

1304
00:55:37,559 --> 00:55:41,339
want to rob you of that of that uh

1305
00:55:39,059 --> 00:55:43,559
opportunity if you did really want to

1306
00:55:41,339 --> 00:55:46,020
say something else you can do it you

1307
00:55:43,559 --> 00:55:49,260
could yeah that's the thing like I I

1308
00:55:46,020 --> 00:55:51,559
literally could feel like

1309
00:55:49,260 --> 00:55:51,559
foreign

1310
00:56:09,920 --> 00:56:13,880
I'm gonna let him finish it

1311
00:56:14,780 --> 00:56:20,339
well um talking of joining you at your

1312
00:56:18,059 --> 00:56:22,559
table uh where can we find you where

1313
00:56:20,339 --> 00:56:24,720
when you do some promotion well let's

1314
00:56:22,559 --> 00:56:27,900
see hold on let me let me get into my DM

1315
00:56:24,720 --> 00:56:31,619
voice all right well you can find me

1316
00:56:27,900 --> 00:56:34,619
over at play nerd allies on Twitch where

1317
00:56:31,619 --> 00:56:36,960
we do two actual plays each week set in

1318
00:56:34,619 --> 00:56:40,440
our Homebrew world the patchwork Planet

1319
00:56:36,960 --> 00:56:42,780
the gods destroyed all of their planets

1320
00:56:40,440 --> 00:56:45,599
and the god of wisdom grabbed a Shard

1321
00:56:42,780 --> 00:56:48,900
from each one to save a little piece of

1322
00:56:45,599 --> 00:56:51,240
each and now all of those different

1323
00:56:48,900 --> 00:56:54,000
groups have had to learn how to live

1324
00:56:51,240 --> 00:56:56,819
together come and see us in our season

1325
00:56:54,000 --> 00:56:59,760
three called The Reef of glass

1326
00:56:56,819 --> 00:57:02,280
in addition every Friday on our twitch

1327
00:56:59,760 --> 00:57:04,740
Channel we do magnificent mythologies

1328
00:57:02,280 --> 00:57:07,559
where we bring on bypoc and alphabet

1329
00:57:04,740 --> 00:57:11,300
Mafia creators they give us a little

1330
00:57:07,559 --> 00:57:14,520
story and we turn that into a full-blown

1331
00:57:11,300 --> 00:57:16,680
One-Shot Adventure that we then pay for

1332
00:57:14,520 --> 00:57:19,859
the art and the layout and hand it back

1333
00:57:16,680 --> 00:57:22,200
to the creators who then own 100 of the

1334
00:57:19,859 --> 00:57:24,240
IP because

1335
00:57:22,200 --> 00:57:27,599
at the foundation for inclusivity in

1336
00:57:24,240 --> 00:57:31,680
gaming our goal is to literally change

1337
00:57:27,599 --> 00:57:34,859
the face of the ttrpg scene by elevating

1338
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:37,319
bypoc and alphabet Mafia creators in

1339
00:57:34,859 --> 00:57:40,380
every way we can on Sundays every other

1340
00:57:37,319 --> 00:57:43,319
week I'm joined by the Healer DM also

1341
00:57:40,380 --> 00:57:45,420
known as Conor he's delightful and we do

1342
00:57:43,319 --> 00:57:46,980
World building for the patchwork Planet

1343
00:57:45,420 --> 00:57:49,920
which we will be releasing hopefully

1344
00:57:46,980 --> 00:57:53,579
sometime in the next year as a full

1345
00:57:49,920 --> 00:57:54,780
campaign setting in addition to that I

1346
00:57:53,579 --> 00:57:57,720
am the

1347
00:57:54,780 --> 00:57:58,740
manager of the Rolling together stream

1348
00:57:57,720 --> 00:58:00,920
team

1349
00:57:58,740 --> 00:58:04,280
if you just go to

1350
00:58:00,920 --> 00:58:06,720
twitch.tv teams slash rolling together

1351
00:58:04,280 --> 00:58:08,040
you can find all of the fabulous people

1352
00:58:06,720 --> 00:58:10,559
that are involved in our rolling

1353
00:58:08,040 --> 00:58:13,319
together stream team we are incredibly

1354
00:58:10,559 --> 00:58:16,260
diverse and delightful doing all kinds

1355
00:58:13,319 --> 00:58:19,800
of actual plays World building writing

1356
00:58:16,260 --> 00:58:21,420
streams all having to do with ttrpgs and

1357
00:58:19,800 --> 00:58:23,280
finally there is the foundation for

1358
00:58:21,420 --> 00:58:26,780
inclusivity in gaming which you can find

1359
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:31,079
at figforall.org

1360
00:58:26,780 --> 00:58:33,260
there we set out to help as I said

1361
00:58:31,079 --> 00:58:36,119
change the face of the ttrpg scene

1362
00:58:33,260 --> 00:58:38,579
making sure that we are elevating those

1363
00:58:36,119 --> 00:58:40,680
who have been ignored for many many

1364
00:58:38,579 --> 00:58:42,480
years now we've got all kinds of

1365
00:58:40,680 --> 00:58:44,220
programs and if you'd like to donate to

1366
00:58:42,480 --> 00:58:46,740
Fig to help

1367
00:58:44,220 --> 00:58:48,299
other streamers please feel free to do

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so there's a button right there on the

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website oh and you can find all the

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links to this all over at Twitter you

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can search for us under planared allies

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or at allies nerd

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yeah and I will be appearing on a bunch

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of different shows and campaigns over

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the course of the next couple of months

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I'm working with Quest junkies with

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black girl Mage with dead Aussie gamer

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oh yeah so I'll be around you'll see me

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but that was the gamer on on the show

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before in the past funnily enough oh

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fabulous yeah Michael's great yeah

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awesome okay well uh all that's left to

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say in which case is thank you ever so

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much Kyle for your time today what an

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insightful and interesting discussion we

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had

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yay thank you the audience does

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typically applaud at this point so

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that's that makes sense

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I've just picked up all these people in

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their cars now listening and being like

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no we don't know

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uh so yes thank you so much for joining

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us today Carl thank you everybody for

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listening at home all the links Carl's

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just gone through will be in the episode

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description

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I'll put the link tree at the top so you

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can just click on that one if it's

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easier for everybody otherwise thank you

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all for listening and good night and now

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it's time for the patreon shout outs

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thank you to Joe from the fourth leg

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podcast again two-time guests of the

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show and the fourth leg is a TT RPG

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podcast all about giving new GMS a leg

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to stand on please go and check them out

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at the fourth leg on Twitter

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thank you to optional rule a two-time

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guest of the show and a very insightful

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and knowledgeable source of information

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please check them out at

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www.optionalrule.com

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huge huge huge thank you to a great

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friend of the show Matthew Perkins who's

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out there making hilarious and

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01:00:52,920 --> 01:00:57,180
educational Dungeons and Dragons content

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please go and check out his stuff at

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Matthew perkins.net where you can find

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links to all of his socials and all of

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01:01:01,380 --> 01:01:04,680
his content including his own patreon

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which I would very much encourage you to

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check out

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thank you to matchstreet at mp street88

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on Twitter for supporting the show if

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you need support running your personal

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or business schedule head to virtualtime

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hustle.com or on Instagram to make that

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difference between should do and done

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was it better essential time you've been

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searching for

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if you would like to support what we do

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and get four shout outs a month head

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over to patreon.com thinking critically

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or you can just buy me a coffee at

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kofi.com thinking critically

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